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Comments on news posted 2009-05-19 15:01:29: Cable operators have long dreamed of remote storage DVRs (RS-DVRs) that store video content at the network head end, eliminating the need for a consumer-side set top box entirely. ..

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baineschile
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Why doesnt CC and TWC do this

I could add more here, but I think the subject says it all...

Just add terabytes of storage at the local nodes, update some software, and everything is stored offsite. Its a cinch....


wifi4milez
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Still a need for a set top box....

Unless CV plans on negotiating with every TV manufacturer to make special remotes just for them, the end user will still need some sort of a set top box. The set top box will have its own remote that includes dedicated buttons for the DVR features. As such, I really dont see any benefit to this at all. In fact, I would prefer to have the content locally in case the cable feed gets messed up due to rain or some other thing.
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That Image...

Ugh... the utterly worthless Scientific Atlanta Explorer HD Box... may no one, not even those with whom I viscerally disagree on these forums, be cursed with that piece of junk.

To call it junk would be an insult to junk, because junk to some people is actually useful.
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i1me2ao
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what

about all the bandwidth that is in such short supply. will this clog the tubes??

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reply to wifi4milez
Re: Still a need for a set top box....

said by wifi4milez See Profile :

... In fact, I would prefer to have the content locally in case the cable feed gets messed up due to rain or some other thing.
If the cable feed goes out your DVR will not work either way, unless they changed it from about a year ago. Try pulling the incoming feed out of your current dvr and play something


DaveNJ
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$10 is a bit high

I dont see why someone would want this. I sometimes store shows for months before watching, and at that price, i could buy a tivo. $120 a year, i think some tivos are going for less then $200.


DaveNJ
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reply to i1me2ao
Re: what

There only clogged when the consumer wants to download something. If the cableco wants to sell something, there is no problem.

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reply to Dodge
Re: Still a need for a set top box....

Well the stuff that you already have recorded will still work. That stuff is being loaded off of the hard drive on the box and doesn't require your service to be connected to play that. However if you disconnect the incoming feed you will not be able to watch anything else ;P.

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Re: what

said by DaveNJ See Profile :

There only clogged when the consumer wants to download something. If the cableco wants to sell something, there is no problem.
Sad ain't it?


EricGT

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Unskippable Advertisements??

Are they kidding with this?

If the remote-DVR service includes "unskippable advertisements", I will have no use for such a service. I use the FF button my remote way too often to give it up now.

I'll stick with the current DVR devices available, thanks anyway.


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Potential?

So there are some good sides for it. 160GB of SHARED storage would allow Cable Co to store complete program episodes and share them if same users "recorded" them. It would be nice if user could view "saved" content on remote location (ie work). That would be nice solution. But just outsourcing DVR to Cable Co nodes doesn't make sense to me.
I rather build a DVR rig with unlimited storage and internet broadcast support
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reply to Dodge
Re: Still a need for a set top box....

said by Dodge See Profile :

said by wifi4milez See Profile :

... In fact, I would prefer to have the content locally in case the cable feed gets messed up due to rain or some other thing.
If the cable feed goes out your DVR will not work either way, unless they changed it from about a year ago. Try pulling the incoming feed out of your current dvr and play something
Of course it still works, unless you pull out the power plug! The content you have recorded is stored on a local hard drive, so you can access it any time the machine is booted up. I havent yet tried it with my FIOS, however it certainly worked with TWC.
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Eat Me

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reply to wifi4milez
With OCAP/tru2way I don't believe they'll need a separate box. All that will be needed is for the TV to download the cable operator's software from the headend.


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Re: Potential?

said by Tomek See Profile :

I rather build a DVR rig with unlimited storage and internet broadcast support
Go buy a Slingbox and you will be done, its basically plug and play.
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reply to Eat Me
Re: Still a need for a set top box....

said by Eat Me See Profile :

With OCAP/tru2way I don't believe they'll need a separate box. All that will be needed is for the TV to download the cable operator's software from the headend.
While that might be possible from a software standpoint, standard TV remotes do not have VOD, pause, FF, etc. buttons. This would mean you would need to get a new custom remote, or a CV universal remote.

Frankly however, I dont really have any issue with an STB. I am not sure why some people dont want them, especially if that means all your content is now stored on the CV network. Local content just works, I can see it, touch it, and I know its there if the feed goes down.
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wifi4milez
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Re: Potential?

said by Tomek See Profile :

I use DLNA
For what?


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reply to DaveNJ
Re: $10 is a bit high

said by DaveNJ See Profile :

I dont see why someone would want this. I sometimes store shows for months before watching, and at that price, i could buy a tivo. $120 a year, i think some tivos are going for less then $200.
You forget the monthly service cost on the TIVO. I forgot the math but even when paying the one time TIVO fee it takes something like 3 years to make it worth it. That's IF the TIVO doesnt break.

my math could be off I am going from memory


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Re: what

said by i1me2ao See Profile :

about all the bandwidth that is in such short supply. will this clog the tubes??
That is a good point.

To playback a network stored show, the system would be using the same frequencies set aside for OnDemand(or whatever TWC calls their version of the Comcast OnDemand) use. And those frequencies are somewhat limited and you can often get an error at busy times if a lot of people on a node are using OnDemand at the same time.

I know I use my DVR way more than I use OnDemand. And if others are similar in their use, this R-DVR service could be a HUGE problem for many people not being able to use it when they want.


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reply to EricGT
Re: Unskippable Advertisements??

said by EricGT :

Are they kidding with this?

If the remote-DVR service includes "unskippable advertisements", I will have no use for such a service. I use the FF button my remote way too often to give it up now.

I'll stick with the current DVR devices available, thanks anyway.
Unskippable ads would be a deal killer for me. If that was part of a remote DVR service, I would never use it. And if this new service would be used as a way to end their regular DVR STBs, then the Tivo route would be the only way to go.
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