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Comments on news posted 2009-05-20 16:46:16: Because apparently an organization that spent $14.4 million last year on lobbying just doesn't get enough face time, Ars Technica gives cable lobbyist and NCTA boss Kyle McSlarrow a podium to wax poetic about alternative broadband pricing schemes. ..
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 bp1068
join:2000-09-03
Carson City, NV
 ·High Desert Intern..
1 edit | A question or two... If your ISP provides you with 6mbit/3mbit connection, does this give you the right to move a steady 6mbit/3mbit stream 24/7/365?
If you answered yes to the question above you are clinically insane*
if you answered no to the question above then you just admitted that your common sense tells you that your "unlimited" broadband IS limited and rightfully so.
Who owns "the internet"?
Who has "the rights" to use it?
How many kbits was the average web page 6 years ago?
How many mbits is the average web page today?
* - I'm not really qualified to make that diagnosis but you should get your head examined or have a close friend slap you really hard!
EDIT: hmmm... this was supposed to be a reply to the 'metered billing' post, don't know how it ended up being a different thread. | |
| | wentlanc
You Can't Fix Dumb..
join:2003-07-30
Maineville, OH
| Re: A question or two... Hmm... when they are advertising up to 3 times the speed of most standard DSL packages and up to 100x faster than dial-up, so families can spend their time on the computer learning, experiencing, and playing - instead of waiting AND always on availability..... what are you drawn to conclude?
All of these companies are purposely trying to mislead people into making an impulse decision based on the bold print, and then saying "Well what we meant by that was.....".
What exactly was your point with your very leading questions aside from attempting to make yourself feel better about your opinion?
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| | | bp1068
join:2000-09-03
Carson City, NV
·High Desert Intern..
2 edits | Re: A question or two... "... your very leading questions ..."
Leading? I suppose so, answer those questions and they help lead you to informed opinions instead of the "my isp said the connection was unlimited and I didn't read the fine print" opinion I see all over every forum talking about the issue.
You don't think the exponential growth in the average size of a web page is a legitimate piece of information in the argument?
I believe my original questions are very legitimate questions in the "unlimited internet" debate, would you please take each question and explain how it has no place in the debate?
Who knows, maybe you will change my mind and I will grab my torch and pitchfork and join the crowd.
If the argument is solely based on what the ISP's advertise, then let it be about that, but at least be honest and admit that you KNOW your "unlimited" connection is NOT, and shouldn't be for the price you pay.
I am not in agreement with the advertising strategies of the major ISP's, I believe they brought this mess on themselves.
Before broadband we had dial-up, how did you pay for dial-up?
You paid for time, not speed, and not by the amount of data you moved, your connection was "limited" by time, you bough 10 hours, or 50 hours, etc.
When ISP's started providing broadband they advertised this service as "unlimited" as it pertained to time, you no longer were paying for time slots, you were always connected and could use the service 24/7/365, hence it was "unlimited".
The ISP's did not have the foresight to see how this would cause problems in the future.
We have infrastructure to deliver video, telephone, and radio, but consumers have to pay for the delivery of that content, now people want to use their $50/month internet connection to access all of this content/services thinking the delivery should now be free because after all your ISP said your service was "unlimited".
I think it is wrong for the big ISP's to continue to mislead consumers, they need to educate the consumers and quit treating them like idiots.
On the other hand, consumers need to quit acting like idiots by insisting that they have a god given right to use the internet, and by believing that an advertised 6mbit connection is a dedicated 6mbit connection for them, and them alone.
When I read somebody post that they think it's time for the feds to 'take over the internet', I go flippin' crazy at such a stupid talk, and entitlement mentality in general, nobody is entitled to use the internet.
If I pay a few thousand dollars a month for a DS3 connection to Sprint, and from there I distribute a network and sell service to end users, I OWN the network between Sprint and the end user and can DICTATE who gets to use it, and HOW they get to use it, if I don't want P2P on my network no law enforcement agency is going to force me to let you run your P2P apps.
I am probably wasting my time writing any of this and those greedy corps are probably getting what they deserve, I would just hate to see more govt. control over things they have no real right to control.
ISP's are fighting for business and yet they still treat their customers like scum, imagine what your internet would be like if the feds stole it from private corporations and ran the thing and gave free* internet to everyone?
*nothing is free when the govt. is concerned, you will pay one way or another. | |
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Jason Jacobsen
@airband.net
| Are you kidding? Trust us...we're your friendly cable company. If Cablevision in the tri-state area is any clue, cable companies will stop at nothing to gouge the customer. Now we're going to let them control our access to the Internet? This is a bad idea in so many ways.
After I give Cablevision control over my Internet, I will walk over to the Dolan family mansion and ask them if they'd like to have my first born...maybe they'd renew my HBO service in return. | |
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MemphisPCGuy
Senior Systems Engineer
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join:2004-05-09
Memphis, TN
 ·Comcast
| Why have allow overages at all? If 40Gb is the "average" on their network, why allow overages at all. If it were in the "best interest of the consumer" they would set a limit, charge for that limit and cut it off at that limit. Anything else is a money grab.
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