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Comments on news posted 2009-05-22 13:18:28: Research firm Instat tells the Orange County Register that the cable industry is losing about a million customers per year. ..

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Boomerang86
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It's all about the Benjamins

I didn't leave cable, but I did downgrade to save money recently. Cable hasn't gotten worse for me in terms of performance, it's just too damned expensive for what you get.

How many left cable for OTA television, I wonder? That's still free.
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YEP, ever time they raise the rates, they think there making more money, but they are losing more customers, even though they account for that in the long run, they lose more....in 10 - 20 years there will be no more catv only dish.WAY TO GO.....


TKJunkMail
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 TV viewership is growing by 1-2 million new per year

I thought the younger generation was dropping TV viewership for watching videos online? Well it looks like, so far at least, online video viewing is not replacing, but is supplementing regular TV viewership.
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anony1

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reply to Boomerang86
Re: It's all about the Benjamins

"How many left cable for OTA television, I wonder?"

And now they are coming back due to DTV hassles, confusion.
TWC reported this in recent quarterly results. Comcast mentioned it without specific numbers.


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reply to TKJunkMail
Re: TV viewership is growing by 1-2 million new per year

said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

Well it looks like, so far at least, online video viewing is not replacing, but is supplementing regular TV viewership.
thats because online viewership is still relatively impractical. sure, there is ota and devices like the roku, but the majority of online streaming still needs to be done with a computer to access a website. while you *could* have a laptop/netbook with an hdmi out into an hdtv with a wireless keyboard and mouse, its not practical in all situations. add that to the fact that channels such as espn et al *won't* put content online or charge high fees for doing so. i was (and still am) a big sports guy. if i was going to be paying money for something like mlb.tv, why would i pay that much for just baseball when i could pay a comparable amount and get all sports?

the pricing to content ratio still just isn't low enough to make it a sweet deal. i dropped cable for ota/netflix/hulu and while it *does* save me about $70/month, there are still times when i wish i could just sit down and watch cable.

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where's comcast rick?

would love to rub Rick See Profile's nose in this. after constant shilling about cable taking away pots users from the telcos (the "bread and butter"), you have telcos and sat providers taking away the "bread and butter" of the cable industry...

i am always thinking "the man who is a jack of all trades, exceeds in none"...

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I'll be leaving Cable TV next month

I'm currently on the 'All the Best' package on TWC - $90 + fees = $101

By mid summer, the 'All The Best' package will be $119 + fees.
I've had issues every month (more than DirectTV in + 5 years of service), and they want to charge me ... MORE ?

I've got my OTA HD set up with currently 53 channels, I'm just waiting to see what else I can pull in after June cutover.
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dealing3000

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reply to tubbynet
Re: TV viewership is growing by 1-2 million new per year

We are also increasingly seeing TV's and other TV appliances (Blue Ray devices, Tivo, etc) coming with built in support for internet video. Whether it is youtube, Amazon, Netflix, custom formats (Sony for instance) it is all pointing to video over the internet. The cable TV infrastructure will slowly become less relevant with each passing year as a greater percentage of people are able to view what they want on their TV devices independent of a cable/satellite/telco TV signal. Whether it is add supported or pay per channel it is definitely moving in that direction. The one stop shop of the cable TV industry is over, plain and simple. It is just not worth the money as the price of cable TV has gone up incredibly. Look at what channels like ESPN charge per subscriber and you can see where all the $$ goes. I will be damned if I am going to pay upwards of $100 a month just to view live college and NFL football. If it was not for that I would have dumped cable TV a long time ago.

me1212

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Could HD be a part of it?

Uverse has like 100 Hd FiOS has like one less than DTV, DTV has the most. If I could get cable I still would not not enough HD. I know not everyone has HD but still it is why we may be getting DTV this fall and leaving Dish.


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 reply to dealing3000
Re: TV viewership is growing by 1-2 million new per year

said by dealing3000 See Profile :

I will be damned if I am going to pay upwards of $100 a month just to view live college and NFL football. If it was not for that I would have dumped cable TV a long time ago.
Even if the traditional method of delivering video content thru linear TV broadcast channels is eliminated, the price(which is controlled by CONTENT providers) will be paid one way or another. As Cable or Telco TV dies off, the new methods will still have to pay a price for content and so will you.
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Dropped maybe a year ago

I started with Dish Network but my wife and I barely watched it I then switched to Comcast very veyr basic we have a super small digital box but all we get are the locals and a few other channels and thats fine for our needs.

Honestly if given the choice I think I'd get the basic line up like usa and all that but I don't need a bazillion channels I just watch Adult Swim, South Park, Family Guy, Simpsons and the local news thats about it.

so good riddiance to cable but I also wonder if people are getting fed up with yearly rate hikes thank you ESPN and other sports crap I don't watch I only watch Football when its on locally
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I'm confused

Didn't we just have a front-page story about how cable was increasing their number of subscribers?

Regardless, I'm canceling my cable TV service on September 10. Cablevision sucks donkey balls.

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reply to Boomerang86
Re: It's all about the Benjamins

said by Boomerang86 See Profile :

How many left cable for OTA television, I wonder? That's still free.
That's exactly what I did about 9 months ago - no problems with OTA HD, NetFlix streaming and a PyTivo server streaming my DVD library to my TivoHD.

I'm addicted to Tivo so that cost would be there on Cable or OTA, but $16/month for NetFlix 3 DVD plan is a lot better than the $60/month TWC was charging me before.


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reply to anony1
said by anony1 :

"How many left cable for OTA television, I wonder?"

And now they are coming back due to DTV hassles, confusion.
TWC reported this in recent quarterly results. Comcast mentioned it without specific numbers.
I'm not really sure what confusion there is and the only hassle would be for those living outside of DTV range.

The converter box, AFAIK, is no more complex than a cable box anyway.

bgraham

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I left Cable.

I had FIOS internet and cable TV. I dumped cable internet years ago and took the VZ $15 DSL. Cable internet was too much money for the speed I was getting in the evenings.

Went to FIOS the week it became available and to save money I switched to VZ TV. VZ was cheaper than our local cable co and the cable co had pissed me off by removing analog channels trying to force customers to get digital boxes.

Sure cable has good prices but only for a year, then they wack it to you. I got a 1 year contract and a 2 year price freeze with VZ.


NOZIREV

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"customers fleeing to satellite"

Really? I have heard some serious horror stories with satellite customer service, i dont think that it is any better than cable co
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reply to Boomerang86
Re: It's all about the Benjamins

I just got digital cable through Bresnan Cable (smaller company). They are by far the best cable company I have dealt with. (I've dealt with Cox, Comcast and Time Warner).

I got their HD digital TV package and free showtime and another movie channel for 1 year for $23/month. This was a deal on top of getting internet, which was cheaper and faster than anything Comcast had to offer.

8mbit internet is their standard internet package...and I live in Wyoming!
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NeoandGeo

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I just dumped cable today due to a $190 cable bill ($40 of which was for internet) I switched to Dish Network and after the initial 6 month promotion I will still be paying roughly $25 less and that includes 2 DVR vs 1 and 110 HD channels compared to 22 with cable. Not to mention Charter kept cramming HD channels without upping the bandwidth.


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reply to Bobcat
Re: I'm confused

said by Bobcat See Profile :

Didn't we just have a front-page story about how cable was increasing their number of subscribers?

Yes.
This is a half-article.
While it reports the losses, it doesn't say how many signed up.

Lose 50 but gain 80 = 30 more overall(adjust numbers accordingly).
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reply to NOZIREV
Re: "customers fleeing to satellite"

In my case it has been the other way around. Comcast couldn't find their ass with both their and five lobbyist's hands so we went with DirecTV in January. No order hassles, installation on time and done right, half the cost of cable and since we primarily watch via TiVo there was almost no disruption to our viewing habits. OTA HDTV on a Series 3 and SD satellite on a Seires 2 for those few cable-only channels we watch. Netflix streaming on the TiVo, as well as Amazon and other VoD rentals. Cable is old hat.
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