Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY
 ·Qwest.net
2 edits | A big voluptuous pile of Bull Sh*t
Here is a photo' of all of the reports, pontifications, and other BS coming from the FCC on the issue of rural Broadband |
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XknightHawkX
join:2003-02-13
Morton, IL
clubs:
| Did you read the story posted above?
quote:
Our efforts to bring robust and affordable broadband to rural America begin with a simple question: what is the current state of broadband in rural America? We would like to answer this question definitively, and detail where broadband facilities are deployed, their speeds, and the number of broadband subscribers throughout rural America. Regrettably, we cannot. The Commission and other federal agencies simply have not collected the comprehensive and reliable data needed to answer this question.
He actually admits that they have no clue. So he didn't throw any Bull Sh*t out there. |
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tdouglas22
join:2001-09-25
Memphis, TN
| Yeah, he actually came out and said what so many of us have known for a very long time. It may not seem like much but it really is a big step in the right direction.
Look, I don't expect this whole plan to happen overnight. I am perfectly aware that it will take a lot of time to get it together. However, as small as this may seem, it is still some very promising news. |
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Laughing Man
Stand Alone Complex
Premium
join:2008-03-17
Louisville, KY
clubs: | If knowing is half the battle
Then the FCC still has the whole battle to fight. |
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mr sean
Professional Infidel
Premium,ExMod 2001-07
join:2001-04-03
N. Absentia
clubs:
| Backhaul and Middle Mile
With only 27% (estimated) coverage in rural areas, the problems of backhaul need to be addressed. At least they're thinking about solutions...
said by report :
There is no one solution to addressing middle mile transport costs in rural areas. Commenters suggest explicitly encouraging middle-mile buildout, revising universal service funding to help cover costs of the middle-mile, and using current or potential infrastructure more effectively by coordinating with other infrastructure projects to shrink deployment costs, and reforming interconnection obligations. Others suggest that these facilities be offered at cost-based or favorable rates on nondiscriminatory terms and conditions.
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PDXPLT
join:2003-12-04
Banks, OR | reply to Transmaster
Re: A big voluptuous pile of Bull Sh*t
Wow, you read the whole report already?
So, which in your opinion are the top five most important items of BS in it? |
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WhatNow
Premium
join:2009-05-06
Charlotte, NC
| It's not free
Let's see $200k for a rural fiber fed RT with copper out that may service less then 200 homes of which some will not order the service and some have a hard time just paying the cheapest landline bill. That does not leave a lot of customers to have a positive ROI.
The only system that will really work in a rural environment is fiber to the house. In some areas even if you put a RT at he end of their driveway the house would be out of limits for anything but 1 to 2 meg speed. The quickest way would be through some wireless setup for a slow verses no connection until you could build the the fiber network. |
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Duramax08
Oh rly?
join:2008-08-03
San Antonio, TX
 ·Clearwire Wireless
·Juno Express
| what is the current state of broadband in rural America?
its only in certain areas that really dont make sense. Ive been to some deserted where they have full cable service. for me? less then a mile away from the city limit so I am considered rural and no one claims us (other then the county).
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
 ·Comcast
·Qwest.net
 ·magicjack.com
·BeeCreek Communica..
·Sprint Mobile Broa..
| reply to WhatNow
Re: It's not free
How long of a driveway are you talking about? Have a half--mile driveway back in Sisterdale, TX and that's not too big of a deal even for DSL. Sure it'll turn 12k feet to 15k feet, but it doesn't put broadband out of the question.
As to FTTH, it should be used instead of copper line maintenance. If the lines can hold a decent POTS signal and the phone company doesn't want to upgrade, Motorola Canopy, Alvarion BreezeAccess (cheapish) or WiMAX (expensive-ish) are options worth considering. |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
·Comcast
·Qwest.net
·magicjack.com
·BeeCreek Communica..
·Sprint Mobile Broa..
| reply to Duramax08
Re: what is the current state of broadband in rural America?
Or you get situations where the cable company is the only ISP worth mentioning in the area. TWC is fine here...sure, their nodes might be a bit overloaded but they offer 15 Mbit down and 2 Mbit up and will always deliver the upsteam and half the downstream...
Verizon has let their copper network here sit and spin, with no fiber in sight. THe only fiber in the area, to my knowledge, is TWC's. So the only competition to TWC's residential services are TWC's carrier-grade services. Go figure. |
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tdouglas22
join:2001-09-25
Memphis, TN
| reply to WhatNow
Re: It's not free
It's not going to be free and I don't think many would expect it to be. However, at some point, profit needs to take a back seat to service. I have no problem with companies making money and I think it's a good thing, but when so many services and products lose quality simply because of the extra money needed to keep the product up to optimal levels, then we have a big issue. |
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Duramax08
Oh rly?
join:2008-08-03
San Antonio, TX | reply to iansltx
Re: what is the current state of broadband in rural America?
anything faster then dial up will work for me, I dont care if its fiber, cable or copper, I just want something other then wireless. Ill take anything via landline.
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
·Comcast
·Qwest.net
·magicjack.com
·BeeCreek Communica..
·Sprint Mobile Broa..
| By wireless you mean cellular, or some crappy WiFi operation? Satellite doesn't count 
I'll take WiMAX for wireless, or a fast point to point circuit  |
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wvcaver
Premium
join:2005-04-17
Millersburg, OH
·Embarq
| reply to Transmaster
Re: A big voluptuous pile of Bull Sh*t
said by Transmaster  :OK talk is cheap let's see you do something other then feeding everyone a line of BS of the issue. |
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Duramax08
Oh rly?
join:2008-08-03
San Antonio, TX
·Clearwire Wireless
·Juno Express
| reply to iansltx
Re: what is the current state of broadband in rural America?
wimax would be good only if it was available.... There are no wisp around here like small towns might have. Also I dont want cellular cause of the caps. Also because of bad latency. Lets not get started about satellite lol.
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO | Cell latency isn't all that bad. 150ms to pretty much everywhere. |
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ShellMMG
join:2009-04-16
Grass Lake, MI
·Alltel Axess
| Did a search on my state (MI)
...and when it was mentioned I was NOT impressed.
I'm sorry, but "rural broadband," at least to me, does NOT mean access through two computers at a community center. That was one example cited. If I want to travel somewhere for free broadband, all I need to do is go to the local library branch. I can even take my laptop and log into their network.
What I would LIKE is internet access at home. Where I don't have to spend gas money (which is $2.69 a gallon today) and slog through ice, snow, rain and sometimes sleet just to check my email.
Sure, I'd love 10mbps downloads with a monthly cost of $50. I'd be happy with DSL speeds at $50 a month. What I currently have is Alltel Axcess in "fringe" territory (aka 150kbps down on a good day) at $64 a month -- it's considered a phone line rather than internet line so it's taxes at a phone rate -- and I'm looking down both barrels of a Verizon 5G cap when my contract ends.
It's not rocket science and I'm not asking for the moon. You'd think SOMEBODY somewhere could come up with a plan. |
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nathill
join:2004-05-03
Bloomington, IN | Rural broadband --> a lifestyle choice
Life is full of hard choices. A number of people choose the country life (to get away from the city), then demand all the conveniences of city life, claiming it is their constitutional right to have what they chose to leave behind.
Just sayin' |
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Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY
·Qwest.net
| reply to XknightHawkX
Re: A big voluptuous pile of Bull Sh*t
Yes I did read the whole thing, and it is still BS. You forget I am a Hamradio operator we have been dealing with the FCC for decades and very little changes, at least for the good. Talk is cheap now let see them do something about it.
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slime
join:2009-04-28
Brooksville, FL | reply to nathill
Re: Rural broadband --> a lifestyle choice
Well ace one thing we didn't leave behind was our taxes. There all happy to take our money and provide no services. I guess according to your way of thinking we shouldn't even have electricity. Just one more jerk heard from. |
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