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Comments on news posted 2009-05-28 12:06:00: One gets the feeling that if Dallas Mavericks owner and HDNet CEO Mark Cuban wasn't absolutely terrified of broadband video, he wouldn't be constantly ranting about how broadband video is going to fail. ..

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EveryName
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That photo disturbs me quite a bit

And now it's on the front page.


Murdoc

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not another one...

How did I get here if the internet is dead?


DaveNJ
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Re: That photo disturbs me quite a bit

Thats the first thing i thought too, Let them eat cake was next. I think all tv will be internet based eventually. There will be a live , and an on-demand one. Live would be news and weather.


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He should be scared

His channels suck and he relies on channel welfare to get customers. If he actually had to compete for business his shit rerun filled garbage would be out of business.

Cuban is a media whore who should do the world a favor and set himself on fire.
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reply to EveryName
Re: That photo disturbs me quite a bit

It fits his personality. He's always reminded me of a 3y/o having a never ending stream of tantrums. He's also why I don't have HDNet. I refuse to put another dime in that a-hole's pocket.
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Re: He should be scared

said by Bit See Profile :

His channels suck and he relies on channel welfare to get customers. If he actually had to compete for business his shit rerun filled garbage would be out of business.

Cuban is a media whore who should do the world a favor and set himself on fire.
I wonder what would happen if the cable companies decided to make Cuban's channel a premium channel.


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said by moonpuppy See Profile :

said by Bit See Profile :

His channels suck and he relies on channel welfare to get customers. If he actually had to compete for business his shit rerun filled garbage would be out of business.

Cuban is a media whore who should do the world a favor and set himself on fire.
I wonder what would happen if the cable companies decided to make Cuban's channel a premium channel.
I wonder myself.

But at least HDNet isn't bastardized sub 10Mbps bitrate garbage like some of the others.

MADx

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reply to Bit
I agree HDNet and HDNet Movies are not good channels, but I did enjoy the occasional one night preview screenings of new movies. However, Comcast took the HDNet Movies off of its line up and left the even worst HDNet on.


mr sean
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First the Mavericks and now this...

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Because, of course, the entire Internet video scene hinges on Google, two cans, and a long piece of twine.
But at least it doesn't depend on having a low post option...

Mr. Cuban is also in federal court for insider trading related to another search engine, Mamma.com
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woody7
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pfftttt......

why even comment on this pinhead, maybe he will go away,and keep his tantrums to himself.......
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baineschile
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Is google that great?

Google wants to make any sort of communication channel free to the consumer; as long as they have advertising rights to it.

Can you imagine getting commercials during a phone call?


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Once next-generation speeds see broader deployment at lower prices (Comcast is promising full DOCSIS 3.0 deployment by the end of 2010), and vendors begin producing simpler solutions to help Luddites pull Internet video from the web (or PC) to the living room -- Cable operators will have a fight on their hands. Cable executives know it -- which is why they're working hard to hoist the metered billing model upon unwilling consumers.
This is completely ignoring the fact that this can only go so far. Comcast's DOCSIS 3.0 deployment is 4 channels downstream -- that's 24MHz (4 x 6MHz channels) out of a 750MHz typical cable distribution plant. Not only do you have less space to work with, but you don't have the efficiency of straight MPEG2 Transport Stream mapping into QAM. You have Video container transport stream (mpeg/real/flash/whatever) as payload inside a layer4 transport header (UDP/TCP), inside an IP header, inside an Ethernet header, mapped into a QAM DOCSIS data channel.

So, you have more overhead on the video signal and less frequency space to work with.

IP Video is cool -- it enables a vast many options that are not available using traditional broadcast methods. It will continue to thrive as an augmentation to existing broadcast video channels. As for replacing broadcast distribution, basic grade school algebra will help you work out why Internet based video won't take over. Unicast streams (to enable the anytime/anyplace nirvana of Internet video) require linear scaling in bandwidth as each subsequent viewer watches the content. Multicast streams have better scaling factors, but require everybody to watch a common feed and incur vastly more overhead than existing traditional video streaming over broadcast channels.

I'm afraid anyone who earnestly believes IPTV is really going to knock out broadcast video is simply standing on the tracks waiting for the freight train of reality to arrive.


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Internet a "staid" platform?

I like this gem:

We need to remember that the Internet is a staid platform. There has been very little innovation. It’s like the ’80s, when we were fighting between different word processing software. There’s only evolution, not revolution. But TV… you could have real innovation there.
So the Internet, which was born in its current form in the 1980s and was popularized in the 90's, is staid with "very little innovation" but TV (which was basically born in the US in the 1940's, colorized in the 60's, and went cable in the 70's) is ripe for real innovation. Sure, Mr. Cuban. Now if you'll go with the nice men in white coats, they can take you to a place where there is no mean ol' Internet and you can spend your days in front of a nice, big television telling everyone how wondrous the device is.
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Re: He should be scared

A lot of good it does with F-Troop and Hogan's Heroes re-runs.
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said by Bit See Profile :

A lot of good it does with F-Troop and Hogan's Heroes re-runs.
I like some of the concerts and even Dan Rather's reports.


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Re: Internet a "staid" platform?

T.V. - Non interactive... unless u change the channel but you can do that only so many times b4 you end up at the same channel.

Internet - endless possibilities at your finger tips...

If you ask me hes got it all backwards


Bit
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Re: He should be scared

Palladia smokes HDNet for concerts, and Dan RaTHer, ouch how the mighty have fallen. Give him a few years and he will find his way back to a decent network. If Marv Albert can make a comeback, anyone can. YES!
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Eat Me

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Well, I don't get Palladia yet.

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reply to moonpuppy
said by moonpuppy See Profile :

said by Bit See Profile :

His channels suck and he relies on channel welfare to get customers. If he actually had to compete for business his shit rerun filled garbage would be out of business.

Cuban is a media whore who should do the world a favor and set himself on fire.
I wonder what would happen if the cable companies decided to make Cuban's channel a premium channel.
Uh, it is a permium channel for Time Warner customers. Unfortunately, TWC is yanking his channels on Saturday. Oh well, that'll be $7 a month I save when I drop that package.

I really enjoy both channels. More so than the other channels that TWC has added lately.


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Re: Is google that great?

Can you imagine watching OTA TV and having commercials right in the middle of your show? Oh wait. . .

You don't get commercials during a phone call because you pay for your phone service and typically other usage related charges. But I'd wager services that allowed free long distance calls in exchange for listening to a commercial would find use. Of course, you also pay for cable AND they run commercials. . .
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