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1 edit | What strain?
What is true in one area, obviously isn't true in all. Localized congestion issues happen with providers of every ilk, whether cellular, cable, WISP, whatever. IOW, it isn't a systemic plague with just AT&T.
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| said by Bit  :What is true in one area, obviously isn't true in all. Localized congestion issues happen with providers of every ilk, whether cellular, cable, WISP, whatever. IOW, it isn't a systemic plague with just AT&T. so true
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Chaldo
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I notice some strain in the area I am, Highly populated area with people either using att or verizon wireless as there carrier. So this should help. |
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Re: What strain?
Speed Test |
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of different providers and had the phone switch to the best provider in the users area. It would take some interesting writting but im sure it could have happened.
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Re: What strain?
said by Bit :What is true in one area, obviously isn't true in all. Localized congestion issues happen with providers of every ilk, whether cellular, cable, WISP, whatever. IOW, it isn't a systemic plague with just AT&T. Correct, but in most areas it is overstrained and under provisioned. Nice test btw, I rarely see more than 1Mbps down and 100Kbps up. |
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Seems to me the iPhone has just forced AT&T to do the right thing. Prior to the iPhone 3G, the 3G around here was absolutely atricious. If I wanted to use data, I'd usually have to force my Blackjack into 3G mode because the phone seemed to always default to Edge. But if I wanted to make voice calls I'd have to force Edge, because any 3G hand-off would result in a dropped call.
Enter the iPhone 3G. Suddenly everyone with their new iPhones got in an uproar about the problems I'd been having on my Blackjack for over a year. Whatever's been done, it's a night and day difference. My 3G works pretty darn good now and I generally don't need to mess with it.
The wide scale capacity upgrades sound like a nice step in the right direction. I just hope they focus on adding more towers. There are still some embarassing dead zones in the LA area.
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patrickp
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Re: What strain?
same here in central IL their AT&T wireless is pretty darn fast and I've never seen congestion least not here..Patrick. |
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Bit
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Conjecture. You don't know anything about "most areas" one way or another.
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1 edit | So which card should i buy to support these speeds?
I'm currently ordered the server from ATT, and I need to know which card/usb i should buy to support these speeds, and possibly the future + speeds. Being locked into a 2 year contract with one of the older cards would suck.
I'm fine with Express cards or USB cards. Just wondering which one's allow maximum speed. Any quick replies would be awesome.
Thanks for any help!
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Re: Unprepared?
said by djrobx :Seems to me the iPhone has just forced AT&T to do the right thing. Prior to the iPhone 3G, the 3G around here was absolutely atricious. If I wanted to use data, I'd usually have to force my Blackjack into 3G mode because the phone seemed to always default to Edge. But if I wanted to make voice calls I'd have to force Edge, because any 3G hand-off would result in a dropped call. Agreed--this is the #1 reason I switched to Verizon when my contract w/ AT&T ended in 2006.
In 2006 at the end of my contract I bought an LG CU500 3G phone from AT&T because I wanted faster MMS uploads, but I quickly found that I often couldn't hold a conversation while moving in a car, bus, train, whatever because the phone would constantly drop calls in 3G to 2G hand off's and back.
I ended up switching to VZ and it has never had an issue with hand off's
I still have AT&T for work, but it's a 2G BlackBerry Edge.
Friends of mine w/ the iPhone 3G say that the hand off isn't an issue any more, so now that I'm several month of contract w/ VZ I'm waiting for the next gen iPhone to arrive before I make a decision to either stick w/ VZ or go for the new iPhone. |
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Matt
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Re: What strain?
said by Bit :Conjecture. You don't know anything about "most areas" one way or another. I could say the exact same thing about your single test if you really want to get snippy?
Go read Howard Forums or any other cell phone oriented site. Most AT&T areas suffer from oversubscription and as a result, low speeds. |
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Bit
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Re: What strain?
Except read my OP, I didn't make unfounded claims about "most areas" as you did. It is a pattern with you, just manufacturing statistics as you go.
Instead of spouting conjecture, provide proof that most AT&T 3G service areas suffer from over subscription and low speeds. Forum postings don't mean crap...my your logic most FiOS areas suffer speed problems because I can find people complaining about FiOS issues.
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Matt
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| said by Bit :Except read my OP, I didn't make unfounded claims about "most areas" as you did. It is a pattern with you, just manufacturing statistics as you go. Instead of spouting conjecture, provide proof that most AT&T 3G service areas suffer from over subscription and low speeds. Forum postings don't mean crap...my your logic most FiOS areas suffer speed problems because I can find people complaining about FiOS issues. Is it? So I am manufacturing statistics that the CEO of AT&T (did you even read the article?) agrees with? The title of the linked article is "AT&T: Smartphones are Choking Networks".
I suppose that's not proof and is just another unfounded claim though isn't it? |
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Engadget saw the same AT&T speeds I do |
Meanwhile where did AT&T's CEO say that over half his network area is oversubscribed and offering slow speeds?
The only thing even remotely close was his comment about "U.S. wireless networks", not just AT&T and said NOTHING about any crush affecting over 1/2 the AT&T network footprint. The point of his speech is that AT&T is "getting ahead" of any coming smart phone crunch with the 4G upgrades. »www.smartmoney.com/breaking-news···800-1428 In fact the CEO said the #1 cause of churn is network quality and it was stated that AT&T has near the lowest churn in the industry over the last quarter.
Engaget did a shootout between the major 3G carriers just recently »Comparing 3G Data Card Service Across Carriers and they saw AT&T as the fastest provider. But even then that is just their experience as they imply in their artcle. They didn't go to every market and every street corner testing these services. No one can make a broad statement about the performance of these networks like you did.
Karl summed it up perfectly in his write up, just because you have a bunch of people saying the service is fast, and another bunch saying it is slow, doesn't mean crap and you can't draw conclusions about network performance from these testimonials.
said by Karl :
These types of comparisons are sketchy given service not only varies from town to town but often block to block...
So I ask again, where is your proof that most of the AT&T service area is suffering slow speeds and is over subscribed.
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Matt
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Re: So which card should i buy to support these speeds?
Do you want an HSDPA 7.2 card? Any current card/usb adapter from AT&T should be able to support the 7.2Mbps speed. You probably won't be able to find an HSDPA+ card from AT&T yet however. |
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DaveNJ
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New Jersey | There is a difference here, HSDPA is what is available now. But HSPA+ cards arent available. There is no such thing as hsdpa+.
Hsdpa (and) hsupa = HSPA. the + means Evolved HSPA provides higher data rates. |
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Matt
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| said by DaveNJ :There is a difference here, HSDPA is what is available now. But HSPA+ cards arent available. There is no such thing as hsdpa+. Hsdpa (and) hsupa = HSPA. the + means Evolved HSPA provides higher data rates. Thanks for the correction, I thought the HSPA+ was a typo. |
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While I haven't used any of these... the Express Card (Sierra Wireless) is rated at 7.2Mbps/2.0Mbps
»www.sierrawireless.com/resources···_1.1.pdf
The USB one appears to also be a Sierra Wireless one (assuming 888/889)
»www.macworld.com/article/135316/···ect.html
»www.sierrawireless.com/resources···_web.pdf
Of course.. the top end (won't see this speed on HSPA most likely by AT&T) at 21Mbps
»www.sierrawireless.com/resources···_web.pdf |
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