screavic
Premium
join:2006-08-11
Paron, AR | At this rate...
At this rate their technology will be obsolete and need to be upgraded by the time "they cover all the areas they have projected to"... |
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milliv
@rr.com | ?
amazing they are still in business |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
 ·Comcast
 ·Qwest.net
 ·magicjack.com
 ·BeeCreek Communica..
·Sprint Mobile Broa..
| What are you guys talking about?
Is there any provider that I don't know of that's providing 4 Mbit down, 384k up mobile broadband in the smattering of metro areas that Clear services? How about semi-fixed wireless for the price of DSL? 6/1 for business internet ith no truck roll needed for setup isn't shabby at all. |
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squison
join:2001-07-07
Decatur, GA | I think they're confusing Clearwire's 3g service with their Wimax product, which are very different. The story is about Wimax, which I've had a couple weeks now and I'm pretty happy with it. |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | Still not available in SoCal.
Population +17million (Metro L.A. area)
It would be a decent alternative to forced bundling by cable/telco, or having to pay ~$40/month for 1.5Mbps ADSL dry loop / $46/month cable HSI dry. |
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expert007
join:2006-01-10
Buffalo, NY | reply to squison
Re: What are you guys talking about?
squison....what kind of down/up speeds are you seeing in Atlanta? And have you tested around ATL airport at all?? Thanks... |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO | reply to en102
Re: Still not available in SoCal.
Cheapest internet in CO for me is $35 for 1/384 on cable. Otherwise I think it's $55 for cable and $40 for DSL. No Clear here though bandwidth is plentiful, just like in LA (okay, LA is better b\w wise but we have les competition here). |
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squison
join:2001-07-07
Decatur, GA
·AT&T Southeast
1 edit | reply to expert007
Re: What are you guys talking about?
I'm getting 10mbit/500kbps. I have the home service/modem, so I've only used it at my house just east of Atlanta.
From what I hear though, the 10mbit is only going to be for the next month or two, then it'll drop down to the 6mbit I signed up for |
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hdman
Flt Rider
Premium
join:2003-11-25
Appleton, WI
·Alltel Axess
·AT&T Midwest
 ·WildBlue
| Still frosts my pahooky...
This really ticks me off. Here is a technology that is MADE for rural areas, yet these clowns decide to serve metro areas that are already served with cable, dsl, and whole slew of other options.
What about us rural folks ClearWire??? I'm sure you'll be first in line for a stimulus handout in order to build more tower in say......Chicago? LA?.....
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The proper way to break in a Harley: Grab a fist full of throttle, and ride it like you stole it!!! |
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skurfa
join:2006-03-10
Yorktown, VA | I Wish
I wish I could get it where I am (Southeast Virginia) They are offering a special I'd go for in a New York minute, two devices for $55 a month and no price increase for life, much better deal than one 3g device at 60 bucks and a 5g cap huh? |
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xenophon
join:2007-09-17
·Sprint Mobile Broa..
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Re: Still frosts my pahooky...
WiMAX needs critical mass return on investment before it can serve low density areas. Clearwire does serve some rural areas with pre-WiMAX and they'll eventually be upgraded to true mobile WiMAX. It sucks for rural people but it will eventually come in one form or another (LTE?). If the States want to help fund a rollout, I'm sure Clearewire would raise the priority. |
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xenophon
join:2007-09-17
·Sprint Mobile Broa..
| Chicago, DFW unofficially up as well
Chicago, DFW and I think Philly have been up for several months but not officially released yet and not with solid metro coverage. If you register a device in Baltimore it will likely work in those upcoming cities already. Don't expect support though until official. |
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xenophon
join:2007-09-17
·Sprint Mobile Broa..
1 edit | reply to screavic
Re: At this rate...
Obsoleted by what? LTE? They are both essentially the same tech. If WiMAX is obsolete, so is LTE.
Difference is, LTE is controlled by the telcom industry (3GGP) and not as open as WiMAX. WiMAX is controlled by IEEE, which the consumer electronics industry is already tied into with WiFi.
There's a much greater chance we'll see all kinds of consumer electronics devices with WiFi/WiMAX combo chipsets than with LTE.
Clearwire also has about 100mhz spectrum in most markets, enough to supply a lot of bandwidth to many users at once. ATT/Verizon only have about 25mhz spectrum in 700mhz range for LTE if I recall. |
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screavic
Premium
join:2006-08-11
Paron, AR | reply to screavic
I'm saying how long it is taking them to deploy, I'm not saying Wimax is obsolete right now... |
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xenophon
join:2007-09-17 | Agree with you there. Funding the rollout is Cleawire's only major barrier. |
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squison
join:2001-07-07
Decatur, GA
·AT&T Southeast
| reply to en102
Re: Still not available in SoCal.
They're probably going about it the right way -- go after mid-size cities without tons of competition (1 cable+1 dsl) before tackling the SoCal and NYC's of the world. I imagine bringing up a new service for a huge population like that has all sorts of challenges, so they might as well get the bugs worked out on those "tiny" cities like Atlanta and Vegas. |
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kurtaustin
join:2006-03-25
Chicago, IL | reply to xenophon
Re: Chicago, DFW unofficially up as well
It seems that they found out about unoffical "upness" as in the last couple of months, the unofficial service has been shut down in Chicago. Anybody in Chicago area experience the same thing? |
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anjorusso
@speakeasy.net | they've changed their mind
no more las vegas on the coverage area list...hahahaha
wow |
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benc
Premium
join:2007-06-17
Glen Carbon, IL
·Charter Pipeline
·Future Nine Corpor..
·Callcentric
·AT&T Midwest
| reply to hdman
Re: Still frosts my pahooky...
I've wondered about that too.
If Clearwire would deploy to under-served (monopoly) or un-served areas (no broadband option under $100/mo.), they would get subscribers instantly.
Sure, someone will say "What about satellite?" Well, I don't care who you are....satellite isn't broadband, or at least it's not what people think of when they hear the term "broadband."
The highly restrictive FAPs mean you can't download that much at all, or really take advantage of the connection. And that's if you are lucky enough to ever get the download speeds that you are paying for.
And latency is so bad that even on dial-up the latency would be better. |
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patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
| reply to xenophon
Re: At this rate...
said by xenophon  :Difference is, LTE is controlled by the telcom industry (3GGP) and not as open as WiMAX. WiMAX is controlled by IEEE, which the consumer electronics industry is already tied into with WiFi. Name me 2 countries with 2 carriers that use the same frequency band and the carriers allow you to activate each other's wimax cards. Wimax cards are locked by frequency to a particular country and a particular carrier. |
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