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Comments on news posted 2009-06-03 12:06:34: As we've frequently discussed, a broadband mapping organization by the name of Connected Nation stands to grab a huge chunk of the government's new $300 million budget set aside for broadband mapping. ..

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Juke Box
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There is no more money..

Given the Federal Government spent the last decade pretending broadband competitive and coverage issues didn't exist, you can imagine the dangers Connected Nation poses to real reform should they truly go national with a huge budget of freshly-procured taxpayer printed dollars.

There, fixed it for you.
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kapil
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Now's your chance...

consumer advocates, left leaning pinko commies, hippies at al. If you cannot advance your agenda and stop bullshit astroturfing groups like Connected Nation in today's political climate full of populist sentiment and a very sympathetic administration and congress...it will never happen.

All hands on deck. It's now, or never.
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BF69
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does anyone bother to check anything

Ok a year ago I would have agreed. ConenctTn maping was atrotious and very wrong. Checked it lately and very accurate. At least in my area. And yes I'm anal about this and I KNOW where broadband begins and ends in almost every corner in my county( kind of a hobby of sorts I suppose ). They even differentiate between cable/dsl and wireless and they don't count satellite. Which they shouldn't because it sucks and shouldn't count. So far I have yet to find an area that says it a carrier provides broadband in which the reality is they don't. So unless someone has bothered to do the legwork like me I think their opinions should be taken with HUGE grain of salt.


en102
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Re: There is no more money..

Pretty much that, and the fact that the government just bought Generous Motors.
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en102
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95% can be real if... it determines what 95% coverage is.

quote:
Kentucky residents and local ISPs generally laugh hysterically at the 95% coverage claim, and insist that Connected Nation is simply putting on a very well-produced dog and pony show.
I suspect that they are doing the 'following':
95% (of those in cities of +100k residents),
not 95% of the land

Lies, lies, and .... statistics!
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BF69
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said by en102:

quote:
Kentucky residents and local ISPs generally laugh hysterically at the 95% coverage claim, and insist that Connected Nation is simply putting on a very well-produced dog and pony show.
I suspect that they are doing the 'following':
95% (of those in cities of +100k residents),
not 95% of the land

Lies, lies, and .... statistics!
Well if an area is totally unihhabited is it REALLY necessary to have broadband there? Kentucky is very rual outside the "big" cities. In areas where there aren't any people I don't think ISPs should have to put in broadband to make a map look fuller.

Sammer

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reply to BF69

Re: does anyone bother to check anything

For $300 million dollars the data should belong to the government and not AT&T!


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reply to en102

Re: There is no more money..

said by en102:

Pretty much that, and the fact that the government just bought Generous Government Motors.
Fixed for you....


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This needs to be done by the census bureau.

I believe they have the right mix of expertise and resources to get the job done in an unbiased manner.
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BF69
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reply to Sammer

Re: does anyone bother to check anything

said by Sammer:

For $300 million dollars the data should belong to the government and not AT&T!
The data belongs to everyone.


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Where do you go to check it?
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reply to BF69

Re: 95% can be real if... it determines what 95% coverage is.

said by BF69:

Well if an area is totally unihhabited is it REALLY necessary to have broadband there? Kentucky is very rual outside the "big" cities. In areas where there aren't any people I don't think ISPs should have to put in broadband to make a map look fuller.
Any broadband mapping would have to include a reasonable definition of minimum population density such as XX/square mile.


BF69
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reply to PhoenixDown

Re: does anyone bother to check anything

said by PhoenixDown:

Where do you go to check it?
Where do I go to check what specfically


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Objective, non-industry supported mapping organizations

»Avoiding A $300 Million Broadband Mapping Boondoggle
objective, non-industry supported mapping organizations
That phrase is not necessarily true. Non-industry organizations are no more objective by definition than industry organizations. They have their own agendas as well and those agendas aren't necessarily any more in the public interest than industry ones.
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BF69
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reply to Sammer

Re: 95% can be real if... it determines what 95% coverage is.

said by Sammer:

said by BF69:

Well if an area is totally unihhabited is it REALLY necessary to have broadband there? Kentucky is very rual outside the "big" cities. In areas where there aren't any people I don't think ISPs should have to put in broadband to make a map look fuller.
Any broadband mapping would have to include a reasonable definition of minimum population density such as XX/square mile.
Is this detailed enough for you?

»ftp://ftp.connectedtn.org/CTPublic/Con···sity.jpg


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Re: does anyone bother to check anything

You were saying that you the availability noted on connected nations site was fairly accurate, I wanted to check a few places myself.
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reply to BF69

Re: 95% can be real if... it determines what 95% coverage is.

Easy solution: WiMAX. Before you tune me out, it'll cover long distances with the right antennas, and it'll fill all those peksy coverage holes. If a WiMAX tower gets overloaded due to lots of subscribers, you've found a place that might be economical to wire. Simple as that

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Re: This needs to be done by the census bureau.

said by PhoenixDown:

I believe they have the right mix of expertise and resources to get the job done in an unbiased manner.
The census bureau? When was the last time the federal government had the expertise to get any job done well?
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99% of the time, I would agree with that statement but I think the census bureau is alright.
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