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join:2008-11-20 Pleasant Hill, MO | I hope so.
That would mean more competition which is a good thing. And if sprint got the iphone I would get it, maybe even verizon. |
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Apple is a business, and as such will go where the $ is. If ATT offers them a nice package to stay exclusive, then thats what will happen. I know its shocking, but Apple wants to make as much profit as possible. Anyone ever heard of the "Apple Tax"? |
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Last year when I wanted the 3G so I paid retail price. It is what it is, you are either within the time or not. I think that argument is a bit weak. It is the price you pay for wanting new toys earlier than you are "allowed" to get them at the cheaper price. |
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A whole article about the potential loss of AT&T's iPhone exclusivity and not a shred of evidence to back it up. I see plenty of reasons for allowing the contract to expire, but since when has either AT&T or Apple made a logical business decision or listened to frustrated, unhappy (potential) customers?
So no, AT&T's bad week has in no way killed the iPhone exclusivity extension. Unless, of course, there are unmentioned details that I'm missing. |
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| reply to wifi4milez Re: Apple doesnt care about all this....
That's true to an extent, but at what point does all the negative publicity outweigh the money they'd be making from AT&T? By opening up to 2 or more carriers, they get more people who want the phone but simply won't switch services for it. Plus, it'll keep the carriers on their toes. You can bet that if Verizon had the iPhone also that there would be no delay in implementing MMS and tethering. |
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Do we know when the negotiations are due to be over? |
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| reply to me1212 said by me1212 :That would mean more competition which is a good thing. And if sprint got the iphone I would get it, maybe even verizon. I also think the AT&T exclusivity agreement should be scrapped. AT&T has done a piss poor job of supporting the device and Apple would open the door to 100 million or so new untapped customers on the Verizon/Sprint network. |
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| reply to me1212 How is it possible at all that apple would make more money with one carrier? Look at BB, they are with everyone, and extremely popular.
Apple should be ashamed that they signed an exclucivity deal; its completely unlike the company to let the people that want their product, not have it |
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  ptrowski Got Helix? Premium join:2005-03-14 Putnam, CT clubs: | reply to mlundin Re: Speculate any?
It is speculation, but with that much negative press it would be smart of Apple to shop it around again. Remember that even though this is mostly AT&T's fault it spills over to Apple. It all rolls downhill.... |
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said by Neyland :Do we know when the negotiations are due to be over? Officially, July 2010. We should know more about any agreements in the months before that. |
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I love my iPhone. I would have a hard time without it. I am disappointed that MMS support will not be ready next week, but will be glad when it is ready. However, I am almost ready to give it all up just to have a phone on a network that I can a) make a call without it first failing, and b) once that call has been connected, hold a conversation for 5 minutes with out the call dropping. This happens to 3 out of 5 calls and at&t cant tell me why. I'm sure at&t may be great in some areas, but they suck in Austin..... remember SXSW? -- Women think they are clever just because they can fake an orgasm for a relationship, whats the big deal a man can fake a whole relationship for an orgasm!!!! |
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someone as dumb as ed whitacre (soon to be ceo of GM) is running this at&t (into the ground) |
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join:2008-11-20 Pleasant Hill, MO | reply to Matt Re: I hope so.
Yup I would get it on ether. That said, I would like verizon more because I have been up on wimax vs LTE and right now wimax can do speeds up to 3m, but LTE can do 100m/50m with pings as low as 10ms. |
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| reply to Matt I agree. I still think that manufacturing (chipset) would have to kick it up a notch, as there is no CDMA based iPhone anywhere.
T-Mobile 'could' get an iPhone if Apple has a flexible radio for AWS 3G, otherwise its just a 2G version -- Canada = Hollywood North |
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1 edit | said by en102 :I agree. I still think that manufacturing (chipset) would have to kick it up a notch, as there is no CDMA based iPhone anywhere. T-Mobile 'could' get an iPhone if Apple has a flexible radio for AWS 3G, otherwise its just a 2G version I don't think they'll release a CDMA version. I fully expect Apple to bend AT&T over right now and then stab them in the back on the exclusivity agreement when Verizon and AT&T migrate to LTE. Verizon is saying 2010 for LTE to become available, that's only 6 to 18 months away ...
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Another 12-18 months would be a perfect time to release a new iPhone that has been designed for GSM/LTE. Just in time for the Christmas season but plenty of time for the 3GS to make money -- it's not like the 3GS is THAT different from the 3G, so I doubt there was a huge R&D cost. |
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| reply to Hookem99 Re: Just want to make calls....
I agree with that. In the city of chicago 3G is hit or miss if I go to E it works fine no problem. Same thing in my house 3G is all over the place but E works fine.
The 3G data in the city just sucks. I can be in my office next to window clear view of other buildings and nothing right next to me. If the iPhone is in 3G (this happened with other AT&T phones as well) I can have full bars but calls won't come in and data won't work. It may for a bit but not generally. If I go to E it works no problem. This is literally sitting next to the window, I even put the phone on the window ledge. I opened up a bunch of tickets with AT&T all come back saying it's fixed.
I am not eligible for the 3GS and at this point I may wait till my contract is up to see if VZ gets the iPhone. I may move to VZ if they do go LTE. |
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  gdm Premium,MVM join:2001-06-15 Mchenry, IL clubs: | reply to Matt Re: I hope so.
That's my thinking as well and reason for not upgrading to 3GS yet. If Verizon can get a LTE iPhone they would win back many customers on AT&T. |
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@sprintlink.net | reply to Matt But LTE doesn't carry voice it only carries data. It's a pure data play right now just like Wimax is. If Apple made an LTE iPhone for Verizon it would need to include a CDMA radio as well for voice. |
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join:2008-11-20 Pleasant Hill, MO | They may be able to use VoIP. LTE has ping times of like as low as 10ms, and is capable of 100/50. |
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 RadioDoc 58ef2c0 Premium,ExMod 2000-03 join:2000-05-11 | reply to baineschile Apple got greedy and VZW told them to take a hike. Pretty typical for them, actually. |
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