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Comments on news posted 2009-06-11 18:15:13: According to the latest data from Nielsen, there's still 2.8 million completely and totally oblivious Americans who aren't prepared for this weekend's digital TV transition cut over date. That means about 2. ..

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Chaldo

join:2008-03-18
West Bloomfield, MI

Comcast in MI is changing too

I heard tomorrow Comcast in Michigan will be also taking there analog channels 30-100 to digital, and must require a digital box to watch them.
jimbopalmer
Tsar of all the Rushers

join:2008-06-02
Greenwood, MS
·Windjammer Cable

Re: Comcast in MI is changing too

said by Chaldo See Profile :

I heard tomorrow Comcast in Michigan will be also taking there analog channels 30-100 to digital, and must require a digital box to watch them.
You DO know this has nothing to do with the topic at hand, right?
OTA digital converter boxes are not at all the same thing as cable converter boxes. Mixing them up in this thread can apparently confuse 2.8 million Americans even more. (Several sleazy Cable companies are already doing this)
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BF69

join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN

said by Chaldo See Profile :

I heard tomorrow Comcast in Michigan will be also taking there analog channels 30-100 to digital, and must require a digital box to watch them.
what does that have to do with the OTA transition? That belongs in the COMCAST forum.
Anonimuz

join:2008-12-08
canada


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Low power towers too?

I heard that the switch is for full power broadcasters only, many lower-power repeaters are staying analog until they get more funding to switch. This is really going to confuse the people who bought converter boxes and they get nothing...

Edit: »www.fox21online.com/content/anal···g-county
abward

join:2004-07-14
Cary, NC
·VOIPo

Not surprised

It is nearly impossible to create an electrical device with a 100% fool proof user interface. Old telephones and older TVs came pretty close, but as they both have been more computerized, and loaded up with more features, and smaller buttons, these too have been made harder to use than should be.

Go easy on the old folks. The oldest have seen so many technological changes in their lifetime, no wonder they are confused.

Also, some folks just are not tech oriented, and that is ok. You could transport Charles Dickens into the present and put him down in front of a PC and he would not have a clue how to use it, but you certainly could never call him stupid.

BF69

join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN

Re: Not surprised

said by abward See Profile :

Go easy on the old folks. The oldest have seen so many technological changes in their lifetime, no wonder they are confused.
Actually the over 65 crowd is the MOST prepared. It's the under 35 group that is the least prepared.
kmcheng

join:2002-02-12
Elmhurst, NY

not everyone is tech savvy...

there are many mean comments here
Knowing the OTA TV channels are going digital is one thing, but what to do about it, the details, may not be clear for everyone - not every American is as tech savvy as you guys.

Portmonkey
scurvy
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join:2004-04-09
Southern IL

Re: not everyone is tech savvy...

No, not everyone is tech savvy. There are bound to be a few with a legitimate excuse as to why they didn't make the switch.

Tomorrow, somewhere out there will be some lonely old man that keeps to himself and has little connection with the outside world other than his ancient TV set, and didn't really understand the announcements he may have caught bits and pieces of. Tomorrow and possibly for many days afterward he'll have to pass the time in silence.

The switch is a good thing and for the overwhelming majority there is no excuse to not do so, but for a very small select few it will be a rough adjustment.
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DownTheShore
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Beautiful NJ
clubs:

No, they're not tech savvy, but if they've been watching any of their local PBS stations for the last months, they should have been seeing many PSA's about the switch-over, that were quite detailed andl clear.

There comes a time when the birdies just have to finally be pushed out of the nest...lol.

Speaking as a card-carrying procrastinator of the first degree, that is.
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kmcheng

join:2002-02-12
Elmhurst, NY

Re: not everyone is tech savvy...

yes, should have, but reality is often a different story, for whatever reason
ElJay

join:2004-03-17
·Great Works Internet

Every channel around here has been broadcasting information and countdowns about the analog shutdown for about six months now. Call the FCC for info. Call the station for info. Go to a website for info. These ignorant people have nobody to blame but themselves at this point. How many channels haven't already transitioned? Most analog TV broadcasts in my area already went dark on the original date and the world didn't end.
kmcheng

join:2002-02-12
Elmhurst, NY

Re: not everyone is tech savvy...

I don't know how many channels were already switched as I don't use antenna.

imteksavvy

@teksavvy.com
I'm teksavvy and proud of it! Screw you Bell!
gower2352

join:2005-06-08
Weston, WV

sales for comcast

I'm doing sales for Comast as a telemarketer and we are of course using 2mar to our advantage but many people have told me they are just fine with OTA cable and I ask them if they are digital yet and many of them tell me what is digital...We're only charging $10.00 for basic cable right now anyway so its a good deal but many people don't want to do it and will find out tommorow they have no TV..tommorow should be interesting at work!
scooper

join:2000-07-11
Youngsville, NC

I have been so anxiously awaiting this ...

Hopefully it will work out like Y2K (anybody else remember what a non-event THAT was ?)
contsole
Premium
join:2003-12-30
Bloomfield, CT

Re: I have been so anxiously awaiting this ...

I remember that Merill Lynch said they spent $300 million to make it a non-event.

81399672
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join:2006-05-17
Los Angeles, CA

What? When is it happening? WTF

WTF? When will it happen? OMG is my tv going to stop working? OMG is this for real? Who do i sue to stop this? OMG this is crazy.
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tmh

@verizon.net

What's DTV?

And why is it in color?

Richard B
Fur It Up

join:2007-06-22
Portland, OR
·Comcast

Comcast Server is Busy

I wanted to see if it worth while to upgrade to comcast new digital service deals but when I went to Comcast.com the serve was busy.
Last minute Hold outs?

RR Conductor
RailRoadDude
Premium
join:2002-04-02
Redwood Valley, CA

2 edits

Does not affect areas served by translators

Duplicate, erase.
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RailRoadDude
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Redwood Valley, CA
·Comcast


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If you're in an area like mine that is served by a translator, you do not need to do anything, analog tv will continue as before. To the editors at BBR, please note that in this article!

»www.tiaukiah.org

You can read more in my sticky at in the cable and tv forum » [DTV OTA] 2/2009 Transition - Translators - Please Read
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jsz0

join:2008-01-23
Jewett City, CT
Anyone who isn't prepared by now would probably be well served watching less TV and spending more time learning how to comprehend realty adequately enough to function in the world.

xdeadhead
220, 221, Whatever It Takes.
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join:2000-11-08
Mechanicsburg, PA
id have put that number at least 3x that. easily. and that is a HUGE understatement.

BF69

join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN

Re: wow

said by xdeadhead See Profile :

id have put that number at least 3x that. easily. and that is a HUGE understatement.
8.4 million? One out of every 14 households is unprepared?

Remember this is the number of HOUSEHOLDS that are not ready not PEOPLE. So you're suggesting 8 million out of 114 million households aren't ready?

xdeadhead
220, 221, Whatever It Takes.
Premium
join:2000-11-08
Mechanicsburg, PA

Re: wow

not unprepared, but oblivious. to anything and everything
cscottm

join:2002-05-09
Kent, WA
·Qwest.net

A co-worker picked up her box & Antenna before the February deadline & probably still hasn't hooked hers up yet. I mentioned to her that some show will come on & that she will be b******* because the picture won't in on a show that she really wants to watch.
cerone

join:2001-10-28
Hialeah, FL

Well, Bush and his people have been talking about getting prepaired for the switch for over 5 years. Then comes the Feb. 2009 deadline, Uncle Obama delays it till June 2009. And still these people have yet to get ready? Show this rock they lived under I want to live there...

BF69

join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN


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Re: DTV...

said by cerone See Profile :

Well, Bush and his people have been talking about getting prepaired for the switch for over 5 years. Then comes the Feb. 2009 deadline, Uncle Obama delays it till June 2009. And still these people have yet to get ready? Show this rock they lived under I want to live there...
it got delayed because Bush fucked it up. The program ran out of money in Dec 2008. Who was president then?
cerone

join:2001-10-28
Hialeah, FL

Re: DTV...

He screwed it up? OK, then why arent the people ready now? The delay has come and went and they are still not ready, Who is president now?
mr weather
Premium
join:2002-02-27
Mississauga, ON

And I don't even live in the US!

God bless those border cities whose tv stations had the forethought to start broadcasting in digital early in the game.

Those who aren't aware, well, they'll never be aware.
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Bobcat
Premium
join:2001-02-04
Bedminster, NJ
·Verizon Online DSL

Analog pictures here were snowy. Digital is probably unwatchable.

I'll be canceling my Cablevision cable service (it's too expensive). So no TV at all for me.

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Chinabound
Premium
join:2002-12-21
Antioch, IL
clubs:
·Comcast

Re: Less range

You might be correct, Bobcat.

What I heard this week from the folks who tune into Wausau, Wisconsin stations from the Vilas County area in north central Wisconsin (Wausau proceeded with the transition last February), is that the stations reduced their power outputs, and now, even with the converter box, they are too distant to tune in to any of the stations out of Wausau.
There are a lot of ticked off people in northern Wisconsin.

I discovered the same thing this past Tuesday night. I had a decent picture in my travel trailer from 40 miles north of Wausau last summer season - now I have nothing. No big deal to me - I'll bring my James Bond movies and my Honeymooner episode collection next week.

Have the stations indeed reduced the output of their broadcasts?

jonnyz
Premium
join:2003-03-20
Canfield, OH
clubs:
·Armstrong Zoom In..

Re: Less range

said by Chinabound See Profile :

Have the stations indeed reduced the output of their broadcasts?
Many have. My local CBS/FOX went from 871kW to 700, NBC 3720 to 460, ABC 912 to 50(!) and PBS 1820 to 388 . But according to FCC gain/loss maps, they all have a further reach than on analog, and with the exception of ABC, I have excellent signal (85+/100) on all the stations except ABC (~40/100).
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BF69

join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN

Re: Less range

said by jonnyz See Profile :

said by Chinabound See Profile :

Have the stations indeed reduced the output of their broadcasts?
Many have. My local CBS/FOX went from 871kW to 700, NBC 3720 to 460, ABC 912 to 50(!) and PBS 1820 to 388 . But according to FCC gain/loss maps, they all have a further reach than on analog, and with the exception of ABC, I have excellent signal (85+/100) on all the stations except ABC (~40/100).
First it takes less power to output a digital signal than analog. The reason you see big changes on some is because those stations are moving form UHF to VHF. It takes MUCH less power to outout a VHF signal. That's why they were so valueable to have in the old days. Why do you think all the networks made sure they had the VHF signals and all the independants were stuck on UHF?
AstroBoy

join:2008-08-08
Parkville, MD

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The only people that don't know, don't watch analog TV over the air. And it does not matter if they don't know.

Corona
It's cool, I'm takin it back
Premium
join:2000-03-14
Aubrey, TX
It's time we STOP bowing down to the lowest common denominator.

If they're that clueless and oblivious, then it's just too damn bad.
kavic86

join:2006-10-17
Dallas, TX

There are tons of people out there that use there HD t.v as a monitor for there computer and download all there t.v or use hulu to watch t.v. Chances are there is a good percentage of those in the under 35 group are doing the same thing as me and are concidered to be oblivious.
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