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Comments on news posted 2009-06-12 13:22:47: Each time there's a concerted effort by ISPs to throttle cap or filter P2P users you'll note a subsequent push in solutions aimed at making P2P users "anonymous." With the exception of some VPNs, most of these solutions are little more than snake oil. ..

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Matt
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This is a nice concept, but I doubt the speeds will be much better than Tor. Certainly not fast enough to satisfy the P2P crowd.


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The solution is to stop using inferior methods of downloading what essentially is illegal content.

If you're going to go illegal, do it right.

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"Hello! BitBlinder has received quite a lot of attention lately and we need to keep the rate at which new people join the network sane. If too many people join it at the same time, there is a chance it will become unstable or slow for our current users. If you leave your email address with us, we'll send you an invitation as soon as possible so you can try it out too."

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"give you back your online freedom."

And people wonder why our world is collapsing, when people think theft is a freedom.

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said by Metatron2008 See Profile :

And people wonder why our world is collapsing, when people think theft is a freedom.
Is it also collapsing when people don't know the legal difference between "theft" and "copyright infringement?"


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And people wonder why our world is collapsing, when people think theft is a freedom.
And people wonder why our world is collapsing, when people think sharing an artistic expression is theft.
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said by Metatron2008 See Profile :

And people wonder why our world is collapsing, when people think theft is a freedom.
Is it also collapsing when people don't know the legal difference between "theft" and "copyright infringement?"
The same 'legal difference' that alot of judges also argue as theft and copyright infringement?

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said by Metatron2008 See Profile :

And people wonder why our world is collapsing, when people think theft is a freedom.
And people wonder why our world is collapsing, when people think sharing an artistic expression is theft.
You were not given permission to share it. That would be like me sharing your money or your car to the world.

If you weren't given permission, you aren't entitled to it.

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said by Metatron2008 See Profile :

And people wonder why our world is collapsing, when people think theft is a freedom.
Is it also collapsing when people don't know the legal difference between "theft" and "copyright infringement?"
The same 'legal difference' that alot of judges also argue as theft and copyright infringement?
Name a case. You brought the claim, now show a case where P2P use brought the criminal charge of theft and not the civil charge of copyright infringement.


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You were not given permission to share it.
LMAO. If I bought XYZ product then I can share it with whomever I desire. Except for you. I'd charge you for the privilege.

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said by Metatron2008 See Profile :

You were not given permission to share it.
LMAO. If I bought XYZ product then I can share it with whomever I desire. Except for you. I'd charge you for the privilege.
Yes, I always find that people like you act childish when presented with facts.


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Wait for it.....

5 4 3 2..till someone claims P2P is bad..o ..to late.


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said by Metatron2008 See Profile :

You were not given permission to share it. That would be like me sharing your money or your car to the world.

If you weren't given permission, you aren't entitled to it.
I wrote this lyric this morning:

"How can they 'spect me to be cool and professional?
Its as hot as a Republican in a Confessional!"


(I know, it sucks.)

Now, if someone reads that -- guess what -- it's still mine. I still have it. If someone sends that to someone else, I still have it, too. And so on.

If you "share" my money or car, I'm out THAT money or car (at least until you return it). If you share my song, I've lost nothing. That's why copyright infringement is different than theft.
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More mumblings from theives.

It's always amazing to see the great technical lengths thieves with a broken moral compass will go to to circumvent detection and justify their actions.

I'll be pedantic if you want and assert that it is blatant theft so save you're time trying to convince those with a sense of morality that it's infringement which is somehow less heinous.

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said by Metatron2008 See Profile :

You were not given permission to share it. That would be like me sharing your money or your car to the world.

If you weren't given permission, you aren't entitled to it.
I wrote this lyric this morning:

"How can they 'spect me to be cool and professional?
Its as hot as a Republican in a Confessional!"


(I know, it sucks.)

Now, if someone reads that -- guess what -- it's still mine. I still have it. If someone sends that to someone else, I still have it, too. And so on.

If you "share" my money or car, I'm out THAT money or car (at least until you return it). If you share my song, I've lost nothing. That's why copyright infringement is different than theft.
A song that crappy is ALOT different then something that takes a large amount of time to make and produce.

If a person was to make a game, they spent their hard earned money making it, and your theft, and others, will move them closer towards losing their jobs and homes for their families.

Of course people like you don't think it's hurting anyone. You only care about your anon on the internet and don't ever want to look at who you actually hurt.

Because then you may have to take responsibility.


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people like you act childish when presented with facts.
We're still waiting for the names and/or cases of those judges that think that copyright infringement and theft are the same thing. Until then, I'd take it easy on accusing others of having a hard time with the word, "facts."
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Re: More mumblings from theives.

These theives should take a look at any federal prison. 99% of inmates won't admit to their crimes either.

Besides, if it's simply 'copyright infringement', and they don't have much to worry about beyond the RIAA, then why do they feel the need to hide their actions?

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So whether the act is illegal or not depends on the quality of the product?

I'll be back shortly, I'm going to take all the copies of Twilight from the local book store. Apparently it's not illegal because they are crappy.


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said by MightyPez See Profile :

I'll be back shortly, I'm going to take all the copies of Twilight from the local book store. Apparently it's not illegal because they are crappy.
Wow, I hope you know that you just pissed off a whole crowd of 13 year old girls!
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So whether the act is illegal or not depends on the quality of the product?

I'll be back shortly, I'm going to take all the copies of Twilight from the local book store. Apparently it's not illegal because they are crappy.
No, my point was that people are losing things. They put time and money into the creation of something that you think they wouldn't lose anything from, and they most certainly WILL.
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