funchords
Hello
Premium,MVM
join:2001-03-11
Washington, DC
 ·Verizon Online DSL
 ·Skype
| Building the "Then" Network
»www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODZXIhe7I2k |
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flycuban
join:2005-04-25
Homestead, FL
| Blah Blah
It's all about money. Company A makes 14 billion this year.. Next year they have to make 16 billion. Less services, less network upgrades, and less options. And people are so stupid to pay $400.00 for a phone... that at the end of the day is a phone! and pay over $100.00 a month with less options than before... SERO Plan $34.85 a month, 500 min(s), wkend starting at 7PM, and unlimited text/picture/data... |
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chlen
Ethically Challenged
Premium
join:2001-01-16
Albany, NY
| From Sprint...
Sprint's caps only applies to AirCards.
The pre's SDK is not released yet, but there will be a tethering application out soon. It will be through all three connection, BT, wifi and mini-USB. Sprint has no caps using phone as a modem. My centro was tethered all the time for torrents on the road.
This also official from Sprint HQ.
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | reply to chlen
Re: From Sprint...
Currently, for caps, At&t's only refer to datacards as well.
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mod_wastrel
join:2008-03-28 | Hmmm....
Does that mean tethering talk is Pre-mature... or simply Pre-immature? (because, obviously, those "No-no!" waggling fingers will stop people from talking) |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
 ·RoadRunner Cable
·DSL EXTREME
| reply to flycuban
Re: Blah Blah
I agree... especially with this statement:
quote:
Even with low caps (5GB per month for both AT&T and Sprint) and high overages that would make higher consumption profitable, tethering terrifies carriers.
Carriers don't want tethering for at least 2 reasons:
1. They probably couldn't support the consumption if a large number of consumers migrated from fixed services (ADSL/Cable) to tethered.
2. They (AT&T anyways) would be chewing off their own ADSL/VDSL services
3. They'd rather sell an aircard + service contract (2 year on data) then adding / removing an optional service.
Of course, where there's profit to be made, these mega corps don't just want profit... they want maximum profit.
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jmn1207
Premium
join:2000-07-19
Reston, VA
 ·Verizon FIOS
| reply to chlen
Re: From Sprint...
said by chlen  :Sprint's caps only applies to AirCards. The pre's SDK is not released yet, but there will be a tethering application out soon. It will be through all three connection, BT, wifi and mini-USB. Sprint has no caps using phone as a modem. My centro was tethered all the time for torrents on the road. This also official from Sprint HQ.
For Sprint's plans, their T's&C's would seem to indicate otherwise.
"Data Usage Limitation (Mobile Broadband Cards, USB Modems, Embedded Modems and Phone-As-Modem): The amount of data transmitted over our network is measured in kilobytes (KB), megabytes (MB) or gigabytes (GB). Sprint reserves the right to limit throughput speeds or amount of data transferred; and to deny, terminate, modify, disconnect or suspend service if usage either exceeds (a.) 5GB/month in total, unless specified otherwise or (b.) 300MB/month while off-network roaming. 1024KB equal 1MB. 1024MB equal 1GB."
Is the monthly limit total "specified otherwise" for your Centro? There wasn't any special clause that I could find with my phone. |
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N3OGH
Bear patrol must be working like a charm
Premium
join:2003-11-11
Philly burbs | Sprint Pre Club...
I thought the first rule of Sprint Pre Club is YOU DO NOT TALK ABOUT SPRINT PRE CLUB...
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Selenia
I'm a PC running Linux, so sue me
join:2006-09-22
Pittsfield, MA
·Verizon Online DSL
·RoadRunner Cable
| Hardly news
Ir's hardly news with all the previous news of carriers altering their TOS ro exclude any remote possibility of apps that actually use bandwidth. I really wish this did surprise me. Sprint has been more lax than some(like AT&T, VZW), but the carriers do seem to follow each other in movements to degrade service. Anyone else remember when caps really didn't exist? Almost universal now. Sad, really sad.
btw, Karl, I like the Fight Club reference in the title =) |
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uid1307457
Premium
join:2005-12-30
Tempe, AZ
·Qwest.net
·Convergent Interne..
 ·DIRECTV
| hmm
Unofficial Tethering Talk Unofficial Tethering Talk Unofficial Tethering Talk Unofficial Tethering Talk 
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patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
| reply to en102
Re: Blah Blah
There is also the fact that 3g is a 3-5mbit shared ethernet connection, and simply a novelty, than a network access method. Imagine running 10s or 100s simultaneously using data on a 802.11b AP. Remember 2G voice runs at less then 14kbps, usually 6 or 9kbps. Imagine all those uses suddenly using landline quality voice at 64kbps, 5x times more bandwidth for each user. 3g was bragging rights from day one. |
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patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY | reply to jmn1207
Re: From Sprint...
I think he was referring to that Sprint doesn't enforce the 5GB cap, like AT&T, on PDA/handset/non-tethering plans. |
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Tarheels Fan
Premium
join:2006-01-05
·Embarq
| reply to flycuban
Re: Blah Blah
Yep, SERO is the best deal out there if you have it. A guy at work dropped his SERO plan for the PRE. I told him he was nuts. He has to pay $200 for the phone and and add'l $70/mo to keep it. (He went from $30/mo to the unlimited $100/mo) He says well now I don't have to worry about going over, (which he was doing on a regular basis by about 100 min!) Oh well, you can't fix stupid... |
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fiberguy
My views are my own.
Premium
join:2005-05-20
| The Pre came.. and went..
For me, this really is a non issue anyway as I already have the Sprint Card.. The Simply everything with data card is $135 for me so it was a good deal the way I see it becuase I can talk and be on the web anyway..
HOWEVER.. after getting the Pre, using it for under 24 hours, I already reactivated the Moto 9QC and boxed the Pre back up to be returned.
There are MANY things that I don't like about the phone at this time and it's not worth the $300 (before $100 rebate) ...
- Can't forward a TXT message
- Battery life is OKAY but the 9Q has me spoiled
- The keyboard is a bit small
- You can't change any of the system tones like the TXT, new mail, et. nor will it vibrate on those so I've already missed a ton of txts..
-Be careful what you tap on the screen on contacts, becuase when you hit the item to call, ... you call.. I was playing with the phone at midnight, tapped on a contact to see what it was going to do from a screen I hadn't been on, it moved to the dial pad, the screen went blank and placed the call. I pressed the wake up button, etc. to get the screen back to end the call but it was too late. (I didn't like that one bit!)
- You can't sync the phone in an easy way.. Gmail so far was the best. 3rd party software works. Their data migration tool was incredibly weak and their instructions are minimal.
- Because of the size, it's hard to hold with out hitting the gesture spot while watching video.. many times just trying to hold it I've ended a video.
- Same on Music... hold the phone wrong and you start a song over. At least with the iTouch/Phone, you have to hit certain parts of the screen the tap is ignored.. not on the Pre.. there is also a very meager control set for controlling.. such as no progress bar.. you simply tap and hold the arrows to move forward or back.. compared to the iTouch/Pod, when in landscape, you can flick through the album covers to find something and not interrupt the song.. in the Pre, you change to what ever song is on the screen.
- There are other things I wasn't too pleased about with the phone too.. little things that I'm sure will be fixed on future software releases, but not about to wait and see what/if they come up with anything... For the price, the thing should drive my car for me too.
There are MANY good things I do like about the Pre, too, so don't get me wrong.. however, I have to say, after owning an iTouch and using iPhones before, while Pre has a great concept, it's not really ready for prime time just yet..
As for tethering, the rep I use at the corporate store in Maple Grove DID discuss the tethering with me.. So, let them have their control on the website if they want.. either way, to this user, it doesn't matter.. 2 of the 3 Pres that were purchased are on the way back to the store today already... technically 1 day after being purchased.. and I had high hopes for the phone.
At least the next iPhone comes out this Friday and I'm replacing my Black Berry with that. (And no, I'm SO not an apple fan boy) |
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Bit
Premium
join:2009-02-19
00000 | Sprint would be dumb to try and take action
All it would do is piss people off. Anyone hell bent on tethering is going to find a way to do it whether Palm/Sprint goes after their 8 fans or not.
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Telco_Tech
join:2009-05-18
Toledo, OH
1 edit | reply to Tarheels Fan
Re: Blah Blah
That's what I did too, except I purchased the Pre on an additional Simply Data plan. I did it that way so I could test out the Pre and decide whether or not it was worth giving up my SERO plan. In the end, I didn't feel it was worth it so I took the phone back and canceled the Simply Data account. I wrote a little about my experience on my website if you want to take a gander:
»tatethatcher.com
All in all, a great phone but not worth losing SERO over.
- Tate
EDIT: Grammar / spelling
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BodyBumper
join:2004-06-21
Beverly Hills, CA
| reply to flycuban
said by flycuban :SERO Plan $34.85 a month, 500 min(s), wkend starting at 7PM, and unlimited text/picture/data... The SERO plan ended a year ago. The Everything Plus plan is $59.99 for 500 mins now.
»delivery.sprint.com/m/p/sprint/e···ding.asp
Email: Russ.S.McGuire@Sprint.com
Employee ID: 383 |
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Telco_Tech
join:2009-05-18
Toledo, OH
| Talk about a data hungry phone!
I had the Pre for a couple days (I ended up returning it) but in just 48 hours I burned through 150 MB of data using Sprint's EVDO. That really shocked me because much of the time I used the phone I was at home on my WiFi router, so I can see why carriers would be scared about overloading their networks...
Oh, and to put things in perspective, my normal EVDO usage is less than 50 MB a month (unless I tether).
- Tate
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Telco_Tech
join:2009-05-18
Toledo, OH | reply to fiberguy
Re: The Pre came.. and went..
Your experience with the Pre closely resembles mine (including returning it).
- Tate
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