k1ll3rdr4g0n
join:2005-03-19
Homer Glen, IL
| I don't see a a problem
Comcast's Rep Frank told me that using torrent's isn't against the TOS so I don't see how this is (torrent's are technically individual servers and clients in themselves so Frank has now sanctioned using servers on Comcast. Doesn't matter what it says in the TOS; Frank is the mouth piece of corporate.). I have the email to prove it if anyone wants me to post it. |
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Edrick
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Orlando, FL | How does the browser perform
against other ones?
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ISurfTooMuch
join:2007-04-23
Tuscaloosa, AL
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I think that this is a great idea. The Internet was never meant to be a one-way medium. That's what radio and TV are for. While I doubt that this piece of software will itself make a huge impact, it might give people the idea that they don't have to merely be consumers of information but can also produce it.
One angle where this kind of setup might be useful is in private "pseudo-Intranets". What I mean is, a group of folks could give each other access to private sites hosted on their own machines, so that they can share information that they'd rather not post to a third-party site, such as personal contact info, schedules, and documents they'd like to share among themselves. Such an option might make certain sites tighten up their privacy policies so people will trust them more. |
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kewlkeed
Grouch
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join:2005-02-05
Knowlton, QC
| ROFL @ The vid
What a joke. They make it sound like a big paranoia scheme. Your poor little computer up against the evil "Servers". Most people's connections simply can't handle anything like this, let alone someone's 4 year old Dell clunker.
There's a good reason servers aren't on the same grounds as regular computers... Oh wait this is Opera's logic we're using here, oops.
The ISPs are gonna have a shitfit alright.
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kapil
The Kapil
join:2000-04-26
Chicago, IL
| Oh Opera
Opera is like the middle child in a family. The older sibling is out smoking weed and getting laid. The younger sibling is busy getting the parents' affection. Opera has to resort to antics to get some attention.
Dear Opera. The browser wars are over. Didn't you get the memo?. Why don't you go develop some iPhone apps like everyone else?
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ISurfTooMuch
join:2007-04-23
Tuscaloosa, AL
1 edit | reply to k1ll3rdr4g0n
Re: I don't see a a problem
Actually, in all seriousness, I think you should share it. Any decent CSR or tech should know not to say anything, especially in written format, that contradicts company policy, so let's see what Frank's interpretation of Comcast's policy is. |
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cowspotter
join:2000-09-11
Ashburn, VA
| security concerns
So basically your hosting a web server by installing this program, right? Its a little concerning when Apache and IIS have so many security vulnerabilities that are identified regularly. I doubt the average computer user would fully understand the implications of setting this up. |
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n2jtx
join:2001-01-13
Glen Head, NY
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| Get Ready To Snoop!
If this application winds up behaving like many of the P2P applications out there, expect to start seeing a trove a personal documents, bank statements, financial spreadsheets, etc. appearing on the web. It may be "Zero Configuration" but experience shows that people who go that route tend to have "Zero Understanding" of their computer.
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wifi4milez
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join:2004-08-07
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Re: Oh Opera
said by kapil  :Opera is like the middle child in a family. The older sibling is out smoking weed and getting laid. The younger sibling is busy getting the parents' affection. Opera has to resort to antics to get some attention. Dear Opera. The browser wars are over. Didn't you get the memo?. Why don't you go develop some iPhone apps like everyone else? I think you underestimate Opera. While they are not big here, they have struck numerous deals with European carriers to be the default browser on phones. Thats really their core business these days to be honest, this is more of a second attempt to gather market share on the desktop level.
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TKJunkMail
Enjoy the sun
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Avalon, NJ
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said by kapil :Opera is like the middle child in a family. The older sibling is out smoking weed and getting laid. The younger sibling is busy getting the parents' affection. Opera has to resort to antics to get some attention. Dear Opera. The browser wars are over. Didn't you get the memo?. Why don't you go develop some iPhone apps like everyone else? This smells of desperation on Opera's part. They are losing the browser wars(except in the mobile marketplace) and they are jumping headlong in to the P2P cesspool. Maybe they want to be the so-called legit Pirate Bay?
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LeftOfSanity
join:2005-11-06
Felton, DE
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said by kapil :Opera is like the middle child in a family. The older sibling is out smoking weed and getting laid. The younger sibling is busy getting the parents' affection. Opera has to resort to antics to get some attention. Dear Opera. The browser wars are over. Didn't you get the memo?. Why don't you go develop some iPhone apps like everyone else? 
Did I miss the memo? When were the browser wars over? Didn't Chrome and Irom just come out recently?
Can you post the source where you got this info?
(I can imagine your on Firefox's jock?) |
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TKJunkMail
Enjoy the sun
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Avalon, NJ
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Re: Get Ready To Snoop!
said by n2jtx :If this application winds up behaving like many of the P2P applications out there, expect to start seeing a trove a personal documents, bank statements, financial spreadsheets, etc. appearing on the web. It may be "Zero Configuration" but experience shows that people who go that route tend to have "Zero Understanding" of their computer. said by cowspotter :So basically your hosting a web server by installing this program, right? Its a little concerning when Apache and IIS have so many security vulnerabilities that are identified regularly. I doubt the average computer user would fully understand the implications of setting this up. Both have identified the biggest problem with this new offering. The average user will be opening a HUGE window in to their personal documents stored on their local PCs. And most of them have no idea at all on how to secure their systems. This could be a bonanza for the identity theft industry.
More discussion of security issues:
»news.cnet.com/8301-17939_109-102···1_3-0-20
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S_engineer
join:2007-05-16
Chicago, IL
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Re: Oh Opera
said by kapil :Dear Opera. The browser wars are over. Didn't you get the memo?. Why don't you go develop some iPhone apps like everyone else? Hasn't anybody learned that its not a good idea to prematurely declare a war to be over!
I don't see how you could possible make that statement. IE 8 has alot of problems, and Firefox's newest edition has ticked alot of people off as well. I've tryed IE 8, Safari, Opera, and FF on my Windows 7 and by far Opera is working the best!
What better time to take marketshare when IE 8 runs like s**t and is also get stripped out of the EU version of Windows
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jp10558
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Willseyville, NY
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Re: Get Ready To Snoop!
Well, aside from the security hole potential, the UI is pretty much like Facebook - there's Public (everyone) and Private (people with a password)... Though, peoples problems with Facebook probably mean there will be some who share out their tax info...
However, that happens with all P2P...
More interesting is you don't have to enable file sharing (that is, don't install that service), but could still potentially get a bunch of use out of a chat service for instance, or the jukebox service, or the services 3rd parties will create.
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Boogeyman
Drive it like you stole it
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join:2002-12-17
Huntsville, AL | reply to kapil
Re: Oh Opera
Opera on the Desktop market maybe, but its huge in the phone market and its the browser that the Wii uses. It isnt exactly a cup of fail.
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AstroBoy
join:2008-08-08
Parkville, MD
| reply to kewlkeed
Re: ROFL @ The vid
said by kewlkeed :What a joke. They make it sound like a big paranoia scheme. Your poor little computer up against the evil "Servers". Most people's connections simply can't handle anything like this, let alone someone's 4 year old Dell clunker. There's a good reason servers aren't on the same grounds as regular computers... Oh wait this is Opera's logic we're using here, oops. The ISPs are gonna have a shitfit alright. Dude, my server is over 10 years old. Sounds like you are using the wrong OS. Try Linux. |
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WhyADuck
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join:2003-03-05
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Re: Oh Opera
Um, excuse me, but I'm starting to hate Firefox more and more. Six months ago it was great, but for the last three or four months it's been crashing on my system. They'll release a new version that doesn't crash, then come out with a new security upgrade and it starts crashing again! The ONLY reason I still use Firefox is because there are a number of extensions I have more or less come to depend on, but as far as I'm concerned the bloom is off the rose for Firefox.
And whenever there's a site that Firefox simply can't deal with for whatever reason, Opera almost always can. I truly wish there were a way to use Firefox extensions with Opera, or that at very least they port over some of the more popular Firefox add-ons (like Tab Mix Plus). I'd use Opera any day over Internet Exploder or, for that matter, Safari.
So no, the browser "wars" certainly are not over, at least not from where I sit. Firefox had the high ground for a while but for whatever reason they seem to have given it up in recent versions (I know some would say IE has the high ground, but I don't think that the case among those who make a conscious decision to pick a browser, as opposed to those who will use whatever just happens to appear on their computer - many of the latter group frankly have no idea what they are using, they know they just "click that little picture to use the Internet!").  |
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k1ll3rdr4g0n
join:2005-03-19
Homer Glen, IL
| reply to ISurfTooMuch
Re: I don't see a a problem
Here it is, even though I expose my email, I don't care. Gmail does a good job with spam, and I really don't use it for anything.
Even though he does say server's aren't allowed, his response to bittorrent and other service protocols are that those are ok.
You can't pick and choose, I quoted him the RFC definition for server and he still said that Bittorrent and logmein are ok as long as long as its not very high bandwidth requirements. For those who claim that this is "tap dancing" around the TOS - I really doubt any ISP would care if you were carefully using any server on the network. Setting up a file hosting site is a no-no, running your own blog probably wont attract any attention.
I also think its infiging against my 1st amendment right preventing me from speaking out as I want. But, that's just my two cents. |
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Bit
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2 edits | Reminds me of the @Home proxy
Unless I'm reading this wrong, it seems this is like the old @Home proxy servers where ISPs would locally cache web pages which at the time made them extremely snappy.
ISPs who hate actually hate to spend profits in keeping up their networks should like this as it keeps more traffic within their local network area.
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Bit
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join:2009-02-19
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Re: Oh Opera
The browser wars are over? Tell that to Microsoft who continues to lose browser share.
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