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Comments on news posted 2009-06-17 09:28:45: Stop The Cap has an interesting report on one Texas resident's experience with Time Warner Cable's now temporarily suspended plan to impose very low caps and high per-gigabyte overages. ..

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DivineDark

join:2001-08-30
Oklahoma City, OK
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move along nothing to see here

There is no collusion to raise prices of data between ISP's or sms between wireless carriers. *cough bullshit.

JSRoman
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join:2005-03-10
Callahan, FL

How long will that exempt last?

"Still to Come: Mark takes his battle to AT&T and gets an upper level AT&T retention agent to mark his account “exempt” from Internet Overcharging fees and penalties. Perhaps you can, too!"
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maartena
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Orange, CA
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Corporate Greed!



More corporate greed, exactly what we need right now Time Warner Cable!

I don't know if anyone from TWC actually reads this, but ask yourself why Comcast with the 250 Gb cap didn't get so much negative press attention.....
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"I reject your reality and substitute my own!"

k1ll3rdr4g0n

join:2005-03-19
Homer Glen, IL

Confusion?

Perhaps I am just reading his bill wrong?
But, it says his previous balance was $57.66. His next bill will be $50.79.
Is he complaining that he has to pay less?
»stopthecap.com/wp-content/upload···bill.jpg

And upon skimming through the article:
quote:
Instead of his old service priced at $44.95 a month for unlimited use.
I am pretty sure every broadband ISP pulled "unlimited" from their advertising years ago - so if he believed it was unlimited I think he was being misled.

And if this is a "new" service, then why is there a previous balance?
Has he not read any news about ISPs implementing caps?

Anyone care to clarify?


beck
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said by k1ll3rdr4g0n See Profile :

Perhaps I am just reading his bill wrong?
But, it says his previous balance was $57.66. His next bill will be $50.79.

Anyone care to clarify?
Look at it carefully. The previous balance was NEGATIVE. So they had a credit balance. Otherwise how could 73 + 30 + 5 be 50?
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Flibbetigibbet

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Collusion

Funny how the cable/telco duopoly in this case just (completely by coincidence) happened to pick the same city to "test" metered billing, isn't it?

Mr Matt

join:2008-01-29
Eustis, FL
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·Embarq

 ISP's need price performance regulation.

The broadband parasites will not stop trying to find new ways to gouge customers until the government regulates the Broadband ISP's. Regulation should also include a provision to make it illegal to levy undisclosed charges such as the central office connection charge, the landline parasites charge.


Flibbetigibbet

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There's a much simpler solution. Just seperate ownership of the lines and hubs from ownership of internet services. Spin off the physical plant into a new company, and mandate that they have to sell bandwidth at published rates to all service providers. Problem sovled.

me1212

join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO
Solution is competition.

We need more competition mono/duopolies don't work very well. If an ISP came along and offered an uncapped 20/4 and up do you think tw or att be testing metered billing there? I don't think so.


Hpower
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join:2000-06-08
Glendale, CA
Exactly. We need more competition. I hope dslextreme will do something good. Always has been a great ISP from personal experience.
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k1ll3rdr4g0n

join:2005-03-19
Homer Glen, IL

reply to beck
Re: Confusion?

said by beck See Profile :

said by k1ll3rdr4g0n See Profile :

Perhaps I am just reading his bill wrong?
But, it says his previous balance was $57.66. His next bill will be $50.79.

Anyone care to clarify?
Look at it carefully. The previous balance was NEGATIVE. So they had a credit balance. Otherwise how could 73 + 30 + 5 be 50?
Ahh ok that makes sense, thanks for clarifying that.


en102
Canadian, eh?

join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
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reply to maartena
Re: Corporate Greed!

Comcast didn't get as much attention, as they 'currently' have a decent cap. AT&T/TimeWarner do not.

quote:
The boiling frog story is a widespread anecdote describing a frog slowly being boiled alive. The premise is that if a frog is placed in boiling water, it will jump out, but if it is placed in cold water that is slowly heated, it will not perceive the danger and will be cooked to death.
Because AT&T/TWC have set rediculously low caps, the average consumer is 'jumping' out of the boiling water. Comcast has set their rates to be reasonable enough that it may take a few years, and customers will get used to it (hence boiled frog).
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sonicmerlin

join:2009-05-24
Cleveland, OH
reply to Hpower
Re: Solution is competition.

I thought DSLExtreme's lines come from Verizon....


Pizz
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said by sonicmerlin See Profile :

I thought DSLExtreme's lines come from Verizon....
and ATT, it depends on the area.
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looking

@rr.com
reply to me1212
I agree but the problem is that an ISP cannot "just come along" since those monopolies are created and maintained by government policies in the first place.

patcat88

join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY

reply to Hpower
said by Hpower See Profile :

Exactly. We need more competition. I hope dslextreme will do something good. Always has been a great ISP from personal experience.
I think Beaumont doesn't have DSLExtreme. Beaumont looks like 100% suburban, 100% detached 1 family homes. Not many subdivisions (strange) from a map, but a grid. 3 DSL lite SBC COs there. Better than one, but with the low density, I would say maybe 20% at most can get CLEC DSL, everyone else is on AT&T RTs that no CLECs have access to.

hottboiinnc
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join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH

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LMAO!

The BBB? WTF! They won't do shit!

And ATT won't have any neg press as long as they keep doing what the Gov't wants them to do. NSA!

Also he was NEVER charged the "one time fees"!


major marco
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Stepford, CA
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BBB Is A Joke

First off, the BBB is a bought and paid for whore of business. Taking a problem to them results in lip service only. The guy in Texas would have gotten much greater satisfaction had he taken the problem to some other consumer-focused group such as The Consumerist.

sonicmerlin

join:2009-05-24
Cleveland, OH

reply to en102
Re: Corporate Greed!

Seriously though, caps don't manage network congestion, which occurs during periods of peak usage during the evening. Caps don't make any sense. At the very least even if their network was troubled and they had no money (both of which are not true) Comcast should allow unlimited usage after 10 PM.

bjbrock

join:2002-10-28
Mcalester, OK

reply to Flibbetigibbet
Re: ISP's need price performance regulation.

Either way it is going to require government intervention to get the job done.

These companies want you to check your e-mail and do some light surfing. They want to eventually deliver any content you want and prevent you from getting it elsewhere.

The government must step in or the Internet will become useless due to the increased cost of bandwidth. This isn't something that might happen. It is a sure deal. Forget using the Internet.
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