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Comments on news posted 2009-06-19 13:41:55: A new bill aimed at derailing unreasonable efforts at per-byte broadband billing faces a steep uphill climb in DC, where AT&T, Verizon and Comcast lobbyists usually get what they want -- particularly if they're working together. ..
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 me1212
join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO | Just a thought. Maybe we should look into Local loop unbundling again, the Japanese and French made it work why can't we. | |
| bicker
join:2007-05-10
Burlington, MA | If you don't like the price, don't use the service The only people who are against metered billing are people who derive more value from the service being offered than they are currently payin, who are fearful that they may actually have to pay what the service they're using is worth. | |
| | Heated Man
join:2009-06-18
Cleveland, OH
| Re: If you don't like the price, don't use the service said by bicker  :The only people who are against metered billing are people who derive more value from the service being offered than they are currently payin, who are fearful that they may actually have to pay what the service they're using is worth. Could not have said it better myself | |
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Wizeguy
join:2008-08-23
Safety Harbor, FL
| Remember when the broke up Ma Bell "Collectively, they'll spend the next year or two trying to convince the public and daft lawmakers that metered billing is patriotic, good for children and puppies"
There was commercial with a guy knocking on an old woman's door. Telling her they were there to fix her phone. She said through the door "but I don't want you to fix my phone". Then one of the 100 or so people with him say's "tell her higher rates are better". Now instead of one conglomerate we have many, all fixing our phones and internet for our good. I'm sure they will parade users in front of Congress that complain about slow downloads, not being able to get that emergency video of little Johnny taking his crap on the toilet. We will fight it tooth and nail but in the end when the smoke clears and the money has greased the right palms they will get what they want. It will be modified so we will think we are getting a good deal but in the end we will be taking it in the end with no kiss or lubricant. | |
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tech329
@rr.com
| Video growth The growth of video and the high bandwidth and total data transfer it demands is why this metered billing is being pursued.
Carriers understand very well that with video growing more than any other data type that the amount of data transferred will only increase. Not just for some but for all. Metered pricing is simply a way to make as much money as possible knowing that all the signs point in a certain direction. The argument that this is about an equitable pricing scheme associated with the amount of data transferred which targets specific users is bogus. Its an absolute given that all users, over time, will show an increase in GBs transferred. | |
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XBL2009
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join:2001-01-03
Chicago, IL |  Only 1 or 2 percent are bandwidth hogs
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| jkeelsnc
join:2008-08-22
Boone, NC
| Caps, etc Well, these big telcos and cable companies MIGHT get away with implementing the caps. However, I doubt it will last too long. I don't see it working for me unless they slash my monthly bill. As it is, i am on AT&T and I can tell you that if they implement caps I am gone. However, where I live at the moment Charter is the only other choice and I imagine they will soon implement caps. I am moving this fall to Greensboro, NC (grad school) and there it will either be TWC or AT&T (doesn't look like a good choice in either case).
However, if the caps are ridiculous (which AT&T's are where they have them) or with TWC then I still get to vote with my wallet. And the end result is that I think some other people will as well especially when they start getting their monthly bills with ridiculous overage charges. The caps will be implemented and then people will get the bill the next month and thats when the fit will hit the shan and people will leave.
At that point I'll be doing nothing but pointing my fingers at the telcos and the cable companies incessantly to put the blame where it belongs. Already, in North Carolina, the big ISP's have tried to introduce bills to the general assembly to prevent cities and counties from building their own fiber networks. Every time they have failed. Partly because we now have a sensible general assembly and governor who will not pander to the telcos. The ISP's have so far been told politely to "get lost" when they started snooping around with these bills. Additionally, another factor is that a surprising number of people in NC, including myself, wrote to their state representatives enough to get their attention. The Telcos and cable companies thought they could slip these bills under the door quietly. Citizens were paying attention and put their foot down on the back of the ISP's and once again told their state representatives to have them leave. So, words don't always talk but sometimes government and money do. Money walking out the door of the ISP's is ultimately the thing that will make the difference. When they start hemorraging cash and stockholders start selling off stock they will be wondering why they couldn't manipulate their customers into a new tidy profit building arrangement.  | |
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GlobalMind
Domino Dude, POWER Systems Guy
Premium
join:2001-10-29
Hollywood, FL
| Bandwidth harvesting It's pretty amazing how these guys keep crying about bandwidth exhaustion like it's a natural resource that we're depleting.
The reality is that it's all man made so we make the decision to deploy more. Sure there are costs involved but the idea of it being ultimately limited is bogus.
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TheGlobalMind.com / Speed costs money. How fast do you want to go? / Trust the instinct to the end, though you can render no reason. - Ralph Waldo Emerson / Free market capitalism is the best path to prosperity. | |
| albundyhere
join:2000-10-26
New York, NY
| picking up the tab So besides router companies being put out of business, due to the fact that joe schmoe cant really figure out how to block out 30 people in his small NYC apt. from tapping into his wifi router therefore getting a bill for $10,000 a month, , LMAO, then I guess I will have to find an alternative. If there is none, then goodbye internet.
On the other hand, major companies that financially depend on the web like amazon and buy.com will soon be setting up B&M stores, or they can sue the ISPs for billions and gazillions of dollars. | |
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IFLATLINEI
@rr.com
| Boy its gonna get real ugly. These ISP's just dont know how ugly its going to get. We dont need them anymore anyways. Theres no reason why we cant get everyone together and install networks for each of our own towns, cities, etc... Its already been done and proven that broadband internet can be alot cheaper than what we are all paying now.
These days its all about efficiency, cutting waste and cutting excessive spending. If these companies are going to play this way then we dont need them. | |
| tech8
join:2008-03-06
Bishop, CA
| caps If you drive a Humvee or a Civic should you both pay the exact
same amount at the gas pump? Clearly the Civic driver will be
paying for the Humvee driver. Most network traffic analysis shows
that a small fraction of users generates most of the traffic. It's
these users (Humvee drivers) that are asking everyone else to
pay for their use. Bandwidth is a commodity that costs money
to build, maintain and operate. The question then becomes
who do you want to run it? The Government, Private Enterprise
or ? and how do you pay for it? | |
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