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Comments on news posted 2009-06-23 16:47:47: Looking at the big picture long term, it's not hard to see how truly open smart phones on truly open networks could make wireless carriers nervous. ..

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vic102482
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Ive Long wondered that.......

Why someone wouldnt write an application that would just leverage the email address that is attached to every device. I havent used the AIM one, but if your handle is your phone number that is an even bigger reason to dump SMS.

I would dump texting in a heartbeat. I pay 30 bucks a month for the privelage of sending unlimited texts on AT&Ts network.

Too much money, and AT&T benefits from it because I dont tie up their phone lines with long calls. Win win for those guys.

Also what would be cool is some sort of IM to SMS bridge. You send an IM to a phone@email (555-555-5555@wireless.net) and it shows up on that persons phone as an SMS text (and the person of course having the capabilities to reply back). Then you could dump SMS completly.
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visuelz

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Awesome

I just tried this with AIM and it's awesome. Definitely didn't see this as a replacement to text but it's definitely a plus.


grydlok

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I use it

I like having it on my Ipod touch.


Nightfall
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BeeJive also has Push notifications

Check out BeeJive. Works with AIM®/iChat®/MobileMe®, MSN®/Windows Live®, Yahoo!®, Facebook, MySpace, GoogleTalk®, ICQ®, & Jabber.

I haven't used it very much since the new version with Push notifications came out, but its supposed to be good.

»www.beejive.com/iphone/
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Skyrunner8

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 Why haven't phone companies done this already?

Create a new standard IMS (internet messaging service), that does text and multimedia messages, and have it send over their data connection.

Then, the phone company doesn't have to 'buy new network capability' to keep up with the vast number of texts sent over SMS and could still make a high margin off of texts, while lowering the price for everybody (Phone companies for not having to put in more towers, and consumers who won't have to pay $30 for texting).

If one cell phone company did this, they would be able to advertise MUCH lower text messaging costs.
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Bleh

What happens when the same person types several messages at once? My experience has been that the last part of the message, or last message is shown. The first either do not show or skip by too fast.

Still prefer my blackberry over my iPhone.

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Push IM..

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Aside from regulation, there's nothing a broadband ISP executive (wireless or terrestrial) fears more than being a "dumb pipe," over which other service/content companies profit. The fear of lost revenue is why carriers have fought so hard against truly opening up networks and devices, and generally refer to open networks as some kind of unruly wild west where horrible things roam.
Get used to it.. It is what we ALL, as consumers, want.
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BillRoland
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Ummm

I get a notification when somebody sends me an AIM or MSN message on my BlackBerry 8350i, this seems hardly revolutionary?
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reply to Nightfall
Re: BeeJive also has Push notifications

That's what I use since I have multiple IM accounts. They are having an issue with Yahoo right now. That's because Yahoo did something, messed up pidgin on my desktop as well. When I launched the updated version of Beejive I got a new option in my 3G, 3.0 OS that says enable push notifications.


Bit
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Just bought, thanks for the tip.
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ablack6596

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reply to vic102482
Re: Ive Long wondered that.......

AIM already includes this as do many other IM clients. Sending an IM to a cellphone # with a +1 in front sends the phone a text message.


ReVeLaTeD
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reply to vic102482
said by vic102482 See Profile :

Why someone wouldnt write an application that would just leverage the email address that is attached to every device. I havent used the AIM one, but if your handle is your phone number that is an even bigger reason to dump SMS.
Because when you send notifications that way it's treated as an MMS which at least for Verizon is more expensive. I know this because I would use it quite frequently before. Now that I have nobody texting me it's a different ball game.

Blackberry has a minor workaround in its BlackBerry PIN Messaging. But of course both sides need BlackBerries.

kennyhuang

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 I use it too

I am love to have it on my iPod Touch. It's great app.


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reply to BillRoland
Re: Ummm

Is that notification via a SMS? Typically most AIM people get notified via SMS when they get a text and AIM is set to the mobile device.

Usually your IM app on a device will time out after so long if you aren't actively using it.


gdm
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Re: BeeJive also has Push notifications

I think it's the best IM client for iPhone, BB's or WM devices.

stufried
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reply to kennyhuang
Re: I use it too

Ask anyone who PIN messages on a Blackberry. The problem with Blackberry PIN messaging is that it is one platform. These programs have the potential for going multiplatform


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reply to BillRoland
Re: Ummm

said by BillRoland See Profile :

I get a notification when somebody sends me an AIM or MSN message on my BlackBerry 8350i, this seems hardly revolutionary?
That's what i was saying. My G1 has had google talk, aim, yahoo and windows live messenger from the get-go.


Eat Me

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Blackberry messenger and google talk

I use both on my blackberry. Works GREAT. Better than paying 20 cents per text message.

Why pay for an expensive data plan then pay for text messaging? Highway robbery is why.


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reply to BillRoland
Re: Ummm

Push IM is revolutionary to the iPhone. Formerly closing the AIM app would cause AIM to log out, making it less than ideal for text replacement.

Keep in mind the iPhone doesn't multitask third party apps, so AIM would close if you tried to browse the web or place a call.

Now, it's not such a problem.
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MichaelWacey
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They should be Dumb Pipes

All the value added services that terrestrial and wireless carriers sell only add value to their stock holders. Just like the highway system, there should be one open and connected pipe that any application (like a car on a highway) can run on.

The current system is so messed up and counter productive. If the carriers do not do this on their own, the governments of the world should force them to. Vertical integration is a bad thing for consumers.

The current system would be like buying road use from verizon and you get a discounted car from them and you have to buy gas from them.
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