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Comments on news posted 2009-06-24 08:57:34: Back in March, Time Warner CEO Jeffrey Bewkes announced that Time Warner and Comcast would be taking the traditional TV model and putting it online -- offering TV content for free to existing subscribers. ..

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IPPlanMan
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How about that 250GB Cap, eh?

Still got that 250GB cap to deal with....

Or maybe they can not have it count against your cap like the Comcast Digital Voice.


Eat Me

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Dumb pipes

They already are!

Cable companies receive and retransmit other people's programming.

nokiatech

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Re: How about that 250GB Cap, eh?

CDV doesn't count against your internet cap because it does not use your internet connection. This probably will count against the cap.


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"For Free"

Yeah, FREE.... Right. To get it in the door, sure. Then the lockstep price increases will begin, meaning your Internet bill will go up like your cable bill does.--- even if you don't watch their crap.

Why am I not thrilled.
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More Options

Kudos to cable for at least giving us more options. With the success of YouTube and Hulu, why wouldnt we expect them to try to get in on the action?


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Re: How about that 250GB Cap, eh?

said by nokiatech See Profile :

CDV doesn't count against your internet cap because it does not use your internet connection. This probably will count against the cap.
Which is absolutely stupid, if TW is the one offering the content, it should not count against their caps, I could understand if the content is not being stream from them...

LurkerLito

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said by Cheese See Profile :

Which is absolutely stupid, if TW is the one offering the content, it should not count against their caps, I could understand if the content is not being stream from them...
If this doesn't count against their cap then the service would be favoring it's content over other companies like Hulu etc. Which would make them a target for Net Neutrality advocates for anti-competitive/monopoly behavior.

The cap should NOT exist in the first place.

wxdude10

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Re: Dumb pipes

I was going to make the exact same comment. If the content companies decided to take their business elsewhere, the cable companies would have NOTHING. They are already dumb pipes, they just don't want to admit it.


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Re: How about that 250GB Cap, eh?

said by LurkerLito See Profile :

said by Cheese See Profile :

Which is absolutely stupid, if TW is the one offering the content, it should not count against their caps, I could understand if the content is not being stream from them...
If this doesn't count against their cap then the service would be favoring it's content over other companies like Hulu etc. Which would make them a target for Net Neutrality advocates for anti-competitive/monopoly behavior.

The cap should NOT exist in the first place.
Of course it would favor their content, their pipes/their content, while HULU would work, it would just count against the caps.

And yes, there should be no caps, I agree.


IPPlanMan
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The fact that we're even discussing the cap means that it's way too low... or shouldn't even exist at all...


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Internet video is going to start taming itself

There are already discussions about Hulu charging to view content as media companies are coming to the same realization that newspapers have -- it costs money to develop content, and you can't keep funding that development when you simply give the content away online for free.

Of course, engadgetHD recently conducted a poll that found over 75% of people would be unwilling to pay any amount of money to watch Hulu content. So much for mixed messages -- it's content worthy of the time of millions of viewers.... until you want to charge anything for it, then it's worthless.

I guess piracy would still be an option, if the show somehow finds a way to generate enough ad revenue through other outlets to continue being produced.


IPPlanMan
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Paid, Free, or Pirated... It doesn't matter if there's a 250GB Cap to deal with.


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said by IPPlanMan See Profile :

Paid, Free, or Pirated... It doesn't matter if there's a 250GB Cap to deal with.
The caps aren't a problem for occasional online viewing.

The "Cut the Cord" model has bigger issues on the supply side well before any kind of cap would be an issue.


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"it costs money to develop content, and you can't keep funding that development when you simply give the content away online for free."

Hulu doesn't make or develop content, unlike the newspapers and hollywood. They place ads to make money, if they can't make that work, they should give the content back to iTunes (oh I just remember not so long ago NBC dude pulling out of iTunes and then saying how sucessful hulu was going to be. Perhaps people are willing to pay for content - I mean most tv shows don't show up on itunes for a LONG time, why not put them there for a season and see if what happened to the "free music on the net" happens to the tv content. And I disagree with your second post, occasional viewing and the caps - no, never, not. This article is not about occasional viewing. Plain and simple, don't advertise unlimited, when there is a cap, and don't cap legal stuff. If they can't figure out how to do that, then there should not be a cap AT ALL.


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Re: How about that 250GB Cap, eh?

or time warner's low cap of 5gb!


IPPlanMan
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1 edit
That's probably 3 Netflix/Apple TV HD movies...


IPPlanMan
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Re: Internet video is going to start taming itself

said by espaeth See Profile :

The caps aren't a problem for occasional online viewing.

The "Cut the Cord" model has bigger issues on the supply side well before any kind of cap would be an issue.
I'm not sure why you'd say that...
It's possible to go over your cap merely watching Hulu content right now.
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said by LV1099246 :

"it costs money to develop content, and you can't keep funding that development when you simply give the content away online for free."

Hulu doesn't make or develop content, unlike the newspapers and hollywood.
Hulu is run by the companies that produce the content:
Hulu is a joint venture of NBC Universal (GE) and Fox Entertainment Group (News Corp), with funding by Providence Equity Partners, which made a US$100 million equity investment and holds a 19% stake. ABC, Inc. (Disney) also owns a 27% stake in the venture.
said by LV1099246 :

Plain and simple, don't advertise unlimited, when there is a cap, and don't cap legal stuff. If they can't figure out how to do that, then there should not be a cap AT ALL.
Caps aren't about illegal vs legal uses of your connection -- it's a function of capacity. I do agree with others that caps are an imperfect solution to address that problem though. I also agree that advertising "unlimited" is misleading.


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Re: How about that 250GB Cap, eh?

said by Pizz See Profile :

or time warner's low cap of 5gb!
... on the cheapest plan they offered. The caps went to 100GB on the $75 plan.


en102
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It's barely 1 DVD ISO.
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