IPPlanMan
Holy Cable Modem Batman
join:2000-09-20
Washington, DC | Something to look forward to with Comcast...
Something to look forward to with Comcast... 
It's Comcastic! |
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baineschile
2600
Premium
join:2008-05-10
Sterling Heights, MI | Except Comcast's cap is 250 gigs; much more reasonable than 10.
And they do supply McAfee, which does have a meter (though not as good as a router flashed with Tomato) |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | reply to IPPlanMan
as well as AT&T and Time Warner Cable. 
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Canada = Hollywood North |
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JesusBeamz
Lord of the Jesus Beamz
join:2009-05-14
Ontario | Nice article
Really shines light on this terrible idea.
Broken meters + Extra charges = Lots and lots of unhappy customers.
Put in your complaints people. |
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Gruesome
join:2007-10-18
Milton, ON | Bingo
"tells you plenty about the quality of competition in Cogeco markets"
Bingo! |
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AVonGauss
Premium,MVM
join:2007-11-01
Boynton Beach, FL | reply to IPPlanMan
Re: Something to look forward to with Comcast...
Yet, you are the one constantly advocating metered billing in the Comcast HSI forum. I think your comment may be out of place as Comcast has not announced any attention to do metered billing at this time. |
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IPPlanMan
Holy Cable Modem Batman
join:2000-09-20
Washington, DC
3 edits | That's right... I am!
I think metered billing is a great idea.
Based on Cogeco, I think they're going to screw it up bigtime if they try it.
That doesn't mean that it shouldn't be done.
It should be done well.
My case for metered billing is that it encourages infrastructure investment. What incentive does Comcast have to invest in its infrastructure when you pay them a flat fee each month no matter how much you use... (well, up to 250GB that is).... |
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mod_wastrel
join:2008-03-28 | Metered billing...
"...confuses your customers and deters use of your product."
Well, isn't that the point? And as far as "reporting" higher usage than was actually present... Duh! (brought to you by Dewey, Cheatham, & Howe) |
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Luminaris
join:2005-12-01
Winchester, VA | reply to JesusBeamz
Re: Nice article
My thoughts exactly and just another reason to make this stupidity with the metered billing, go away |
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nasadude
join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
 ·Comcast
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Re: Something to look forward to with Comcast...
said by IPPlanMan  :... It should be done well. up front statement: I hate the concept of metered billing.
that being said, if it's going to be done, it has to be done well. but there should also be an independent entity (govt or otherwise) that certifies the accuracy of the metering system the ISP is using - much like what is done with gas pumps, electric meters, water meters, etc.
if they want to charge by the bit, they should be made to prove they are accurately measuring the bits being used. |
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Hamilton1
join:2007-10-28
Hamilton, ON
|  Were Screwed
I'm a Cogeco customer and so far this month there Meter is out over 5Gb's compared to my DuMeters results. You call in and complain and all they do is open a ticket and say lets wait and see.
Come July when people start getting there bill for June and they see these charges for usage they didn't use..... Well lets just say I wouldn't want to be a Cogeco rep when the shit starts hitting the fan.
I think the thing that's the most insulting is the Cogeco ads you see on TV saying the "have the best customer support". Yah Right!!!!! |
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baineschile
2600
Premium
join:2008-05-10
Sterling Heights, MI | reply to AVonGauss
Re: Something to look forward to with Comcast...
I dont advocate it, i just think the current comcast cap is reasonable. I would prefer an uncapped, unmetered, unthrottled service; just as most heavy internet users would. |
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IPPlanMan
Holy Cable Modem Batman
join:2000-09-20
Washington, DC | reply to nasadude
Damn right! |
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Kilroy
Premium,MVM
join:2002-11-21
Ann Arbor, MI
·WOW Internet and C..
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said by IPPlanMan :My case for metered billing is that it encourages infrastructure investment. What incentive does Comcast have to invest in its infrastructure when you pay them a flat fee each month no matter how much you use... (well, up to 250GB that is).... Great in theory. Unproven in reality. The encouragement for infrastructure should be customer retention and acquisition. Unfortunately if there is no competition there is no reason to do anything for the customer.
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When will the people realize that with DRM they aren't purchasing anything? |
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rcabor
join:2007-04-17
Grand Prairie, TX
| reply to IPPlanMan
said by IPPlanMan :That's right... I am! I think metered billing is a great idea. My case for metered billing is that it encourages infrastructure investment. What incentive does Comcast have to invest in its infrastructure when you pay them a flat fee each month no matter how much you use... (well, up to 250GB that is).... But if you cap the amount, then why would you need to invest in infrastructure. The need for growth would come to a crawl/stop. This is why its so attractive for the ISPs, more revenue, no video competition, no need to upgrade network capacity, and crazy profits! |
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IPPlanMan
Holy Cable Modem Batman
join:2000-09-20
Washington, DC | Damn right. |
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ee44
@comcast.net | reply to IPPlanMan
not use where you get comcast out of this. sound like a hater. comcast has not said anything about metered billing. |
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atuarre
Here come the drums
Premium
join:2004-02-14
Lake Charles, LA
clubs: 
| RE
For a second there, I was going to tell you to call the public service commission, but ISP's are not utilities.
I guess talk to your government representatives because they will get away with wrongfully billing you as long as you allow them to, and all they have to say is the meter says you used x amount of data.
Surely someone regulates ISP's there. |
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Michael Chaney
@natinst.com
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Re: Something to look forward to with Comcast...
The only way to do it well is to not do it at all.
Encourages infrastructure investment?!?! Are you serious?!?! Do you actually want me to believe that anyone who implements metered billing is going to use that money to reinvest in infrastructure? BS! Roger isn't. If anything, now that caps keep people from using the high-bandwidth applications they want to use, it will only justify then continuing to NOT reinvest in infrastructure.
The incentive to invest in your infrastructure while charging a flat fee is that that flat fee is still orders of magnitude greater than the cost of infrastructure. The current flat fees being charged are more than enough to rake in fat profits even AFTER using a little to upgrade networks to keep up with the pace of traffic growth.
Your case for metered billing is unfounded. |
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jimbo2150
join:2004-05-10
Youngstown, OH
| Um....
So they want to play pennies with their customers by implementing metered billing which, according to the company, will save them and customers money. Fast-forward to today. Users under the new metered billing (which probably cost millions to implement in the first place) are getting charged more overall for the similar usage, the system still does not work meaning more cost to re-fix the failed system which will probably mean even high prices for customers.
Anyone else see any ironic issues here?
If I were the CEO I would be firing the hell out of the idiots that came up with the idea... Oh, wait, it was probably the CEO that did...
When business implodes in on itself.
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