 chronoss2009
join:2008-09-23 | HEY BELL canada and rogers
what ya doing with DPI these days , is it anything like iran? |
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| said by chronoss2009 :HEY BELL canada and rogers, what ya doing with DPI these days , is it anything like iran? That is an absurd supposition. If they were, then one of two things would have happened. You wouldn't have been able to post such a comment - it would have been blocked. Or two, if you had found a way to bypass the filters, you would have been arrested and imprisoned. -- My BLOG .. .. Internet News .. .. My Web Page |
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2 edits | Nokia says just providing voice tapping capability
Basically, Nokia-Siemens says all their hardware can do is tap voice calls. No different than can be accomplished by any Central Office telephone center in the world. Police tap voice calls all over the world, some with warrants and some without.
»blogs.nokiasiemensnetworks.com/n···in-iran/
To clarify: Nokia Siemens Networks has provided Lawful Intercept capability solely for the monitoring of local voice calls in Iran. Nokia Siemens Networks has not provided any deep packet inspection, web censorship or Internet filtering capability to Iran.
In most countries around the world, including all EU member states and the U.S., telecommunications networks are legally required to have the capability for Lawful Intercept and this is also the case in Iran.
Nokia Siemens Networks provided TCI, the Iranian national operator, with the capability to conduct voice monitoring of local calls on its fixed and mobile network. If Nokia is correct then the threatened boycott is unwarranted. -- My BLOG .. .. Internet News .. .. My Web Page |
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| The question I keep asking every website is
WHY THE HELL ISN'T SSL IMPLEMENTED YET!
Even dslreports doesn't have https and this place goes on and on about DPI and ISP censorship. |
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 Desdinova
join:2003-01-26 Gaithersburg, MD
| Hmmm...
As disheartened as I am by the Iranian government's handling of the situation over there, boycotting the hardware developers over here seems to make as much sense as boycotting automobile manufacturers every time someone gets hit by a car. A tool is a tool is a tool; abuse is in the hands of the user. |
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  ptrowski Got Helix? Premium join:2005-03-14 Putnam, CT clubs: | reply to TKJunkMail Re: Nokia says just providing voice tapping capability
As we know a company sponsored blog ALWAY tells 100% facts.  |
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These filters aint doing such a good job...Anyone seen the video of Neda  Article: »www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-storie···1463873/
Iran's running of the bull...except with cops firing at will: »www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbf_40g3wDM |
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 jester121 Premium join:2003-08-09 Lake Zurich, IL | A "firestorm", huh?
People being killed by bullets and batons is pretty serious stuff; I don't think a bunch of blog posts and a boycott that no one showed up for qualifies as a "firestorm". Nice hyberbole though... |
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| reply to Desdinova Re: Hmmm...
What if that hardware company actively markets its products as the ideal tools of censorship and repression? -- "Religion allows people who would otherwise be arguing about whether the Death Star could beat a Borg Cube to have a place of respect within society." |
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| reply to jester121 Re: A "firestorm", huh?
The riot police there don't have the guns that people are being killed by. They don't even have guns, only the military does.
I have a feeling foreign powers are making some of the chaos occur over there, while some of it is caused by the people themselves.
Don't be so quick to judge a situation you've never seen except through your own controlled media. -- My Anime Site - AnimeCrazy.net |
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  TwoCpus4me
join:2003-10-16 | Once you shut off the Press and kick out all the reporters from the country your credibility is nil.
There is no doubt for you to try and benefit here. |
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| reply to Desdinova Re: Hmmm...
thats a pretty poor analogy. Cars are not made to run over people and when that happens it is an accident 99% of the time. This tool, on the other hand, is developed and marketed to do just what it is doing in Iran. It is only a matter of time before it is deployed against us "in our best interests". |
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  gfh44
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get with the times man, reporters stopped being the bastions of truth for a long time. |
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  Combat Chuck Too Many Cannibals Premium join:2001-11-29 Erie, PA
| reply to pspcrazy said by pspcrazy :The riot police there don't have the guns that people are being killed by. They don't even have guns, only the military does. I have a feeling foreign powers are making some of the chaos occur over there, while some of it is caused by the people themselves. Don't be so quick to judge a situation you've never seen except through your own controlled media. You mean the same media that told you there was nothing to see? I know people who lived there and risked their lives to get out. The military are the police, and often the judge, jury and executioner when and how they want.
You sit and say the police don't have weapons, and that may be true... at least on paper. The reality is that whoever the government decides to give weapons has weapons, be they police, snitch, military or civilian. -- Come let us reason together. |
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  karlmarx
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Umm, no, if he was an AMERICAN, and he bypassed the filters, he would be arrested and imprisioned. Heil Homeland Security, papers please. -- The happiest countries are the most secular. The struggle AGAINST corporations is the struggle FOR humanity! |
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| Twitter set your location to Tehran;
If you're on Twitter, set your location to Tehran; your timezone to GMT +3.30.
Not sure if this has any relevense or helps the the freedom seekers or not... Iranian security forces are hunting for bloggers using location/timezone searches. The more people at this location, the more of a log jam it creates for forces trying to shut down Iranians' access to the internet. Cut & paste; pass it on. |
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 Desdinova
join:2003-01-26 Gaithersburg, MD | reply to Desdinova Re: Hmmm...
Regardless of how good or bad the analogy may be, or what the marketing for a product is, it's STILL the individual's choice whether or not to use the tool in a harmful way. |
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 SiliconBandt
join:2008-05-24 Winnipeg, MB
| reply to Vtr_Racing Re: Twitter set your location to Tehran;
said by Vtr_Racing :The more people at this location, the more of a log jam it creates for forces trying to shut down Iranians' access to the internet. Cut & paste; pass it on. Timezone searches are just the first step in a trace.
Generally speaking though, I'm curious to see how long before net neutrality and corporate/government censorship clash in a serious firefight. |
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 Corydon Cultivant son jardin Premium join:2008-02-18 Denver, CO clubs: | reply to Desdinova Re: Hmmm...
So Glock should start marketing their handguns with the tagline "Now with more cop-killing stopping power!"? |
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 Desdinova
join:2003-01-26 Gaithersburg, MD
| So your argument is everyone who sees their marketing campaign will without reserve and exception buy a Glock specifically to kill cops? And further, they should not be charged because it's Glock's fault? You're saying that it if they didn't advertise it that way, no one would ever think of using it to that end? That no one has any motivation to use or abuse an item outside of what a marketing campaign orders?
Sorry, I don't agree. I don't care if Glock advertises that their guns will vaporize nuns and puppies with a single round to the back of the head, YOU'RE still the one who decides to aim at them and pull the trigger. |
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