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Re: My 2¢Your APN is still isp.cingular... |
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Re: Myth BUSTEDNo. There is no background anything. You need push services on (per app), location services on, and the mail setting to be updated every x minutes for it to do anything in the "background".
Some points:
One, when i have my iPhone in airplane mode with wifi on, there is no extraneous activity on the router, even over several hours.
Two, over 2 lines and a month of serious web browsing, downloading apps, watching videos etc, our combined total is something like 300 megs. We were not going easy on our phones in the least bit, and ever since my iBook's dc board has been acting up i've been using my iPhone more & more.
Three. 2G data does not count towards the iPhone data plan cap. Unless he was in some amazingly well connected 3G area (which i'm not sure canada has, i don't have enough knowledge on the issue), there's no way you could even rack up 9 gigs over a month given the slower speeds vs wifi even with an iPhone 3Gs.
So, in conclusion, you can see the only way 9 gigs of download could be even possible is if he was using his phone every day all day every minute, which really isn't practical. Few hundred megs a day is what that would equate to. Unless he was tethering (which you can't do currently), or mistakenly using 3G vs wifi is the only thing i can see, even then.... I don't even use 9 gigs a month on my fios connection
Innocent.
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Heh, they don't pull you over, they read your plate & mail you the ticket.
It is enforced heavily, just in random patterns. 2 of my family members work in NJ and both require phones that can do hands free operation, speakerphone at the very least.
One of my friends had an employee going over the washington crossing bridge into NJ, and he was scrambling for his BT headset (hand on wheel eyes on road slowing down actually), but NJ state trooper was parked right at the gas station across the way there, sure enough he got a ticket in the mail 3 weeks later Not sure how much it was for tho.
Also, i've noticed that cops are going after tailgaters on the major highways. This ain't a race track, no drafting!
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Re: This Day and AgeIf sprint had the number of customers and the varied patchwork of other networks it operates across that att has i'm sure it too would discard 15 minute billing updates for something more practical.
When sbc/cingular/bellsouth aquired att wireless & the whole new dealio became att, they had a blue network (legacy att) and orange network (former cingular), and they were not compatible. In 2007 i believe it was, att phased out the blue network entirely, giving people options to upgrade to free phones on the orange network or waive early termination fee & end service.
Believe it or not there is still a blue and orange network (only on the backside), and they don't talk well to each other, and they can't determine on a minute by minute basis which tower you are connected to, even with a dwindling number of blue network cell towers, it's still an issue. Once all the blue network remnants are removed, they should be able to do hour by hour usage tracking.
All of this information was gathered by me over years of talking to equipment techs & backend support personnel. Normally blue network towers are 850 mhz heavy, geared towards car phones and high powered execs in sealed war rooms doing hostile takeovers, whereas orange is more balanced, but a bit light on 850 here and there, which they need to frekin fix.
In any case, 2 calls i've made to att about network issues were resolved by a callback from field equipment techs (the folks that work on the towers & related infrastructure) and given me an explanation that i had guessed before the call based on the type of issue i had.
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pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty Premium Member join:2002-05-02 Mount Airy, MD |
to KrazyDawg
Re: Myth BUSTEDNJ also doesn't believe that its citizens can be trusted to pump their own gas. |
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More reason to demand unlocked phonesThis is another reason we should demand providers to sell phones unlocked, just like other countries. One can simply get a cheap local prepaid plan and switch the SIM chip. But no, regardless of the ridiculous stuff AT&T is doing, people are still lining up giving AT&T money. Mind boggling.
Before anybody whining about having to pay full price for phones, unlocked != no subsidy. In countries like Singapore, all subsidized and under-contract high end phones, including iPhones, are sold unlocked out of the box. |
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to BarneyBadAss
Re: Hardly surprising...I think that is what the user thought. I think they should start making these idiots pay the bill. To the early post and Ron White "You can fix beauty but you can't fix stupid". |
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I know Obama was shocked his Blackberry didn't work in Saudi Arabia.
Yes, consumers are stupid. If they were smart, no one would pay $15,000 for a handbag or $80,000 for a GM car.
If voters were smart, they wouldn't have elected Stuart Smally either. Or Obama. |
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Re: Myth BUSTEDNJ is also, last time I was there, the state where they will not let people pump their own gas! It is so funny to see someone that has lived in New Jersey there whole life and come here and cannot figure out why no one is pumping there gas? "Where is the damn attendant, what do I do! OMG!"
Too funny.
And everybody needs to look at what he is saying. He is saying that he did not use 9Gb of data. He is not saying "Ooops, I did not know I would be charged that much, silly me"... he is saying he did not use that much data... period. |
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2009-Jun-28 4:35 pm
said by keyboard5684:NJ is also, last time I was there, the state where they will not let people pump their own gas! It is so funny to see someone that has lived in New Jersey there whole life and come here and cannot figure out why no one is pumping there gas? "Where is the damn attendant, what do I do! OMG!" Too funny. And everybody needs to look at what he is saying. He is saying that he did not use 9Gb of data. He is not saying "Ooops, I did not know I would be charged that much, silly me"... he is saying he did not use that much data... period. having lived 28 years in CT, there are times living in NJ now i have almost gotten out of the car to pump it myself when the attendant is too slow. but i know that with my luck a cop would be in line and give me some ticket(if it is even ticketable). |
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Personally, I wouldn't mind pumping it myself. Especially if they dropped the price by a couple of cents a gallon for the privilege. |
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2009-Jun-28 6:07 pm
my experience: AT&T's charges can't be auditedMy experience is not directly relevant to 3G, but similar.... I spent a few weeks in Toronto, Canada with an Edge-based iPhone and AT&T's International roaming plan. When I got my bill, I discovered that: 1. AT&T's data plans are pro-rated (my bad for misunderstanding this) 2. AT&T's charges defy any form of reasonable audit The second point is the rub. Despite the fact that I was only and always in Toronto while in Canada, AT&T's data roaming charges showed locations from Vancouver to Nova Scotia -- often within minutes of other data roaming charges. As I pointed out to AT&T, it just isn't possible to travel 3,000 miles in 20 minutes. The Canadian roaming charges also included times when I was at an airport in the USA -- and despite my offers of evidence to AT&T that I could prove where I was, AT&T's CSR claimed that all the charges were accurate. I eventually had to escalate the dispute to my local Better Business Bureau and it took many months to get straight. My opinion: AT&T's back-end billing systems are a big part of the problem, coupled with the fact that AT&T's front-line service reps have no authority to over-ride charges that clearly defy reasonable logic and evidence to the contrary. |
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I have an idea. Why not lower ridiculous overage charges?The bandwidth that consumers use when they go over their 5 GB caps doesn't cost the carriers anywhere near what they charge for it. The solution to this problem is simple. Lower overage charges. What a concept, huh.
Such obscene profit levels generated by these huge overage charges should be made illegal if the carriers won't voluntarily lower these prices. Consumers shouldn't have to take it anymore. We own the airwaves that these 3G signals go over. The carriers only lease that spectrum and have to agree to use the spectrum in the public interest. Clearly, the carriers are not operating in the public interest, and they should be made to pay for violating the public's trust. |
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Jodokast96Stupid people piss me off. Premium Member join:2005-11-23 NJ |
to Maccawolf
Re: Myth BUSTEDsaid by Maccawolf:Personally, I wouldn't mind pumping it myself. Especially if they dropped the price by a couple of cents a gallon for the privilege. Go for it. No one's going to stop you, I do it all of the time. But even if the "law" was changed, it wouldn't change the price. |
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Re: Hardly surprising...or Bush? Twice? |
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Re: Myth BUSTEDAre they insane? Jesus Christ the nanny state is getting closer and closer... |
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ATT are just crooks. called them to relocate service location asked how much it would cost. they told me flat rate of $55 over the phone. The tech arrives says he won't do it unless i paid $80, I already owe att $55 just because the guy showed up. I agreed with reservations, he spent 30 min doing the work then sat in his truck after he was done for an hour. I get the bill $230 for labour. They did not want to drop it back to $80, did research found the tech's GPS showed he was in my area for 4 hours. BTW everything was working 30 min after he left. I asked for the reciept, they did not call me back. called again they did not want to waive anything said charges are sustained, where threatening to cut my service. Had my lawyer send them a letter demanding the reciept, then it turn out the tech made a mistake. They ended up dropping the labour charges completely, but still sent me the bill for the late charges that were the result of the disputed charges. These people drive me crazy, the employees that handle the customer service are stupid as a door knob no etiquette, disrespectful, they bring you to the verge of an emotional breakdown. I get tremours after I hang up the phone with these people. But the company itself are just crooks they way they do business promise you one thing then they change it and 6 months later start jacking up the rates. And this whole thing about charging extra for foreign kilobytes is a bunch of B.S. The internet belongs to the US government so by definition all kilobytes are domestic. These bytes do not belong to ATT to be charging you for them |
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said by DOStradamus:Q: What do you get when you form a majority coalition of idiots, authoritarian leftists, and the corrupt or corruptible? A. California -NK Also Washington DC (Both the District and The Federal Government) |
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said by Jodokast96:said by Maccawolf:Personally, I wouldn't mind pumping it myself. Especially if they dropped the price by a couple of cents a gallon for the privilege. Go for it. No one's going to stop you, I do it all of the time. But even if the "law" was changed, it wouldn't change the price. Well the way the state is run. The price would probably go up for the privilege. |
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Re: This Day and Agesaid by FastiBook:If sprint had the number of customers and the varied patchwork of other networks it operates across that att has i'm sure it too would discard 15 minute billing updates for something more practical. When sbc/cingular/bellsouth aquired att wireless & the whole new dealio became att, they had a blue network (legacy att) and orange network (former cingular), and they were not compatible. In 2007 i believe it was, att phased out the blue network entirely, giving people options to upgrade to free phones on the orange network or waive early termination fee & end service. Believe it or not there is still a blue and orange network (only on the backside), and they don't talk well to each other, and they can't determine on a minute by minute basis which tower you are connected to, even with a dwindling number of blue network cell towers, it's still an issue. Once all the blue network remnants are removed, they should be able to do hour by hour usage tracking. All of this information was gathered by me over years of talking to equipment techs & backend support personnel. Normally blue network towers are 850 mhz heavy, geared towards car phones and high powered execs in sealed war rooms doing hostile takeovers, whereas orange is more balanced, but a bit light on 850 here and there, which they need to frekin fix. In any case, 2 calls i've made to att about network issues were resolved by a callback from field equipment techs (the folks that work on the towers & related infrastructure) and given me an explanation that i had guessed before the call based on the type of issue i had. - A Then whose responsibility is it then? AT&T should have gotten their act together years ago. Instead they nickel and dime you and can't figure the arse from their elbow. They have made millions from the Iphone on their system. Time enough to get things right. Oh wait silly that's not AT&T. |
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Re: Do i see a AT&T phone GOING BOOM soon?" Right now we know that AT&T not only offers a bandwidth consumption tool, but they also often send users an SMS should their account balances start to get silly. "
whats silly, is that you people still use a cell phone for crap like this .
a cell phone is not for the Internet.
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said by DJMASACRE:" Right now we know that AT&T not only offers a bandwidth consumption tool, but they also often send users an SMS should their account balances start to get silly. " whats silly, is that you people still use a cell phone for crap like this . a cell phone is not for the Internet. stop using this crap. The internet isnt for downloading stuff, its for BBS and discussions. Technology evolves - people evolve. 10 years ago a cell phone couldnt play movies, games, or anything...and now it can. If I'm visiting another state or country, and can get online with my cell phone/no hotel internet... why not? |
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Re: Myth BUSTEDsaid by purple111111111 :
The internet belongs to the US government so by definition all kilobytes are domestic. These bytes do not belong to ATT to be charging you for them You're joking, right? |
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AVDRespice, Adspice, Prospice Premium Member join:2003-02-06 Onion, NJ |
to Jodokast96
said by Jodokast96:said by Maccawolf:Personally, I wouldn't mind pumping it myself. Especially if they dropped the price by a couple of cents a gallon for the privilege. Go for it. No one's going to stop you, I do it all of the time. But even if the "law" was changed, it wouldn't change the price. AGREED, NJ has the cheapest gas in the region. |
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Re: Hardly surprising...Let's pray Obama has 1 term. |
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2009-Jun-30 8:14 am
to Ikarasu
Re: Do i see a AT&T phone GOING BOOM soon?said by Ikarasu:said by DJMASACRE:" Right now we know that AT&T not only offers a bandwidth consumption tool, but they also often send users an SMS should their account balances start to get silly. " whats silly, is that you people still use a cell phone for crap like this . a cell phone is not for the Internet. stop using this crap. The internet isnt for downloading stuff, its for BBS and discussions. Technology evolves - people evolve. 10 years ago a cell phone couldnt play movies, games, or anything...and now it can. If I'm visiting another state or country, and can get online with my cell phone/no hotel internet... why not? cell phones are not and never were for games, movies or other. they are for making emergency calls if your are not at home. period. There is no need for it more than that if you want somethig else create a seperate machine. wait, they already have those, its called a COMPUTER. so make one small enough to carry around with you to do all those cool things and more just like you would on a real PC. not cheap crap integrated into your phone while the companies you choose charge you out the ass for bullshit. you have to admit, it has and probably always will be just a merchandising scam, and most of you all just bought right into it. anyway yes, Internet could be useful, so use a laptop then. If you can walk down a street holding a blackberry in your hand like a frgging compass walking around then im sure you could carry a laptop in a case on your shoulder. Maybe most likely pay less or nothing and use a full computer system to do anything you please in the fullest capabilities you should choose. and thats fine that using the phone for BBS/discussions maybe. but that counts as DATA use ? doesnt sound important enough to me i guess. seriously, think about what you pay so much for. Is it really worth it ................ if for you, how many people actually need to do that. i could go on more but i think you see my point , take care =) |
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Re: Hardly surprising...I concure |
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2009-Jul-1 2:15 am
Roaming ...I am clear of roaming fees in the us, but, I guess Canada is considered international once you are out of the us. It is outrageous, but at&t make it clear on this, that is what I was taught. |
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