tictac
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It's Usenet.com, not all of Usenet. |
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Shamayim
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1 edit | LOL
I'd like to see them try to sue 'Usenet'  |
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Harddrive
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| Usenet.com not the entire Usenet
why Usenet.com became a sitting duck:
they, as a company, actually advertised $19 per month for "access to millions of MP3 files". they also destroyed hard drives, provided false data to RIAA, and sent employees to Europe to keep them from testifying.
i will give a nod to Usenet.com for trying to protect its customers' info from the prying eyes of the RIAA. but when they advertised about the access to millions of MP3 files, they shot themselves in the foot.
there are lots of Usenet providers out there. and we all know that the binary groups of Usenet is what most people subscribe to a newsgroup provider for. you just cant come out as a provider and actually say that like Usenet.com did.
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nixen
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Re: Usenet.com
said by tictac :
It's Usenet.com, not all of Usenet.
Yeah, I was a touch confused by the title, at first. Seems a touch strange that a company would name itself against an unbrandable name like that. Perhaps they knew their business model was suspect, so they were just looking to get in, make their money, and then duck out once the inevitable lawsuits came.
/me shrugs
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Re: Usenet.com not the entire Usenet
said by Harddrive  :you just cant come out as a provider and actually say that like Usenet.com did. Exactly. usenet has many legitimate uses, but once you start advertising piracy you no longer have that argument. |
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ISurfTooMuch
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Tuscaloosa, AL | What about Gopher?
I haven't seen them around in quite a while. I wonder if the RIAA sued them as well.
And last I heard, Archie and Veronica were on the lam down in South America with huge judgments already entered against them. |
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amungus
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| Poorly written article
Anyone else notice the (sloppy) grammar in a couple spots from the linked article?
"...does has some say..."
Um, I can has article published?!
"The RIAA produced evidence, however, that Usenet.com destroying evidence or failed to produce witnesses on multiple occasions."
I destroying that sentence or fail to include other words 
Interesting that they tried to use the Betamax ruling as a defense. Likely that the RIAA etc. will go after other providers now...
Wonder if they'll try to force ISPs to start blocking the (NNTP) protocol. |
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mp3sillegal
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Re: Usenet.com not the entire Usenet
Since when were mp3s illegal by default?
Not to say that usenet.com wasn't doing something illegal, but that line of reasoning would be like saying that yahoo games must be doing something wrong when they advertise hundreds of free games.
If all usenet.com did was advertise free mp3 downloads that's almost meaningless on its own. |
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News group providers are an easy target for the RIAA/MPAA and I'm not surprised they are going after them to get a few wins under their belt. It will be MUCH easier to force this industry to drop obviously illegal newsgroups -- which will completely kill the industry as a whole because let's face it, who really needs an unlimited usenet account unless you're doing something illegal? |
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elwoodblues
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| I disagree, there is all of money invested in hardware/bandwidth. The big 3 (Newshosting/Usenetserver/Giganews) are not going down without a massive fight.
IF they go down, P2P/IRC (which is a PITA to use) is going to just explode.
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1 edit | said by elwoodblues :I disagree, there is all of money invested in hardware/bandwidth. The big 3 (Newshosting/Usenetserver/Giganews) are not going down without a massive fight. IF they go down, P2P/IRC (which is a PITA to use) is going to just explode. While I agree with that. There are so many private torrent sites out there it makes usenet look like a drop in the bucket. RIAA can go after one, but there are 3523352533 more to take its place.
RIAA is fighting something that it CAN'T win. They are wasting their money and time, they should be looking at their business model.
Edit: Torrents are not a "pain in the ass to use" their actually quite simple. Not sure where you got that idea from? |
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bluedyedvd
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Re: Poorly written article
said by amungus :Anyone else notice the (sloppy) grammar in a couple spots from the linked article? "...does has some say..." Um, I can has article published?! "The RIAA produced evidence, however, that Usenet.com destroying evidence or failed to produce witnesses on multiple occasions." I destroying that sentence or fail to include other words Interesting that they tried to use the Betamax ruling as a defense. Likely that the RIAA etc. will go after other providers now... Wonder if they'll try to force ISPs to start blocking the (NNTP) protocol. The biggest reason usenet.com lost the judge would not let them use the dmca safe harbor for a punishment for activity in the case. The dmca is most important defense they had most likely they would have won other providers won't have that problem |
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gsorel
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1 edit | Following riaa and usenet.com
Original news just dissapear on RIAA site: »riaa.com/newsitem.php?news_month···CEA28761 |
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gsorel
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3 edits | New news on RIAA site: »riaa.com/newsitem.php?news_month···516D90B0 |
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cdru
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Re: Usenet.com not the entire Usenet
said by mp3sillegal :
Since when were mp3s illegal by default? It's not. That's why the RIAA when to court to get a ruling. To which Usenet.com made matters worse by destroying evidence, sending employees away, etc. |
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axiomatic
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Re: Easy Target
While I agree with your premise... I say: Let the RIAA blow as much money as they like on trying to kill Usenet. They only speed up their eventual demise by blowing money like this. |
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TKJunkMail
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|  reply to Matt
said by Matt :News group providers are an easy target for the RIAA/MPAA and I'm not surprised they are going after them to get a few wins under their belt. It will be MUCH easier to force this industry to drop obviously illegal newsgroups -- which will completely kill the industry as a whole because let's face it, who really needs an unlimited usenet account unless you're doing something illegal? No details released yet on what sanctions will be levied against Usenet and how much the RIAA wins in the case.
»www.p2pnet.net/story/24309
matter referred to the Magistrate Judge for determination of damages and an appropriate injunction,” says Recording Industry vs The People. The RIAA is on a winning streak lately. Jammie Thomas loses AGAIN. The Pirate Bay sells out. And now Usenet, which many thought untouchable, loses big in court. Lots of comments by The Pirate Bay Users about going to Usenet - Uh Oh.
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| They be winning a couple of battles but they are certainly losing the war, With CD sales slumping like they are...forecast at "$23 billion in 2009, down 16 percent from 2006 and far below the forecast of $45 billion in 1997" ( »www.marketingcharts.com/topics/e···ump-281/ ) the RIAA is becoming a shell of what they used to be. In many ways they remind me of At&t, retaining the lobbiests and lawyers but not adapting their business model. In the 10 years I've cited, you now have a new generation that listens to free music under independant labels broadcast over the web. The RIAA has lost these potential customers forever. And as bad as Jammie Thomas' defense looks, the RIAA still appears worse in that case. if the RIAA were smart, they'd let her off the hook to avoid the appearance of a faceless corporation demanding $80,000.00 per song from a single mother, because thats how its being portrayed.
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TKJunkMail
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| said by S_engineer :if the RIAA were smart, they'd let her off the hook to avoid the appearance of a faceless corporation demanding $80,000.00 per song from a single mother, because thats how its being portrayed. They tried to let her off with a minimal settlement multiple times. She won't go along. So the dance continues.
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Re: Usenet.com
I don't think I would excuse the usernet.com company either for blatantly advertising illegal content that has to be hosted on their servers.
No worries, it's only a matter of time before my »theriaampaaareabunchofgreedybastardsbay.us website is up and running. 
That is real site BTW  |
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