ender7074
join:2006-11-21
Saint Louis, MO | Wow
Thats a lot of dough for something as simple as text messages. I'll bet they still complain about it not costing enough though...
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manfmmd
Premium
join:2003-01-14
Earth
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You fail to realize that all of the text messages aren't making AT&T $.20 per message both ways in most cases. That only applies to phones without a texting plan...
The messaging rate of 65k per second likely also takes into account system message which the customer is not charged for.
edit to add:
Unlimited texting is $15.00 which at $.20 is 75 messages...I use well over 160-170 messages per month.. I'm sure most other people on the unlimited plan do likewise.. Do the math..
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boogi man
join:2001-11-13
Apo, AE
clubs: | sorta fail?
so cut that by half? say 32,500 per sec? for the subscribed vs unsubscribed? and you are still talking big #'s $390,000/hr
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burrowowl
Sonic.Net
VIP
join:2003-01-22
Santa Rosa, CA | Oh no, not profits!
And here I figured carriers would charge what the market would bear. If you think it's not worth $0.20 to send a brief message to somebody, I would recommend against doing so or finding an alternate means.
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ptrowski
Got Helix?
Premium
join:2005-03-14
Putnam, CT
clubs: | reply to manfmmd
Re: FAIL
Did you notice where Karl said that it was theoretical, and yes they offer bundle plans?
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Matt
Take me down to the paradise city
Premium
join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
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Re: FAIL
said by manfmmd  :Unlimited texting is $15.00 which at $.20 is 75 messages...I use well over 160-170 messages per month.. I'm sure most other people on the unlimited plan do likewise.. Do the math.. Unfortunately, AT&T has done the math and I would wager that the unlimited plans are priced right in line where it's cheaper to buy said unlimited plan than to just pay per text. Don't forget, it used to be $.1 per txt, then was raised to $.5, then $.10 and now $.20. The price hikes are to encourage people who otherwise wouldn't have signed up for an unlimited plan to do so. |
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Fox McCloud
Crazy like a fox.
join:2006-07-23
·Embarq
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I'm perfectly alright with this; it's not an essential service, it's their towers, their service, and their property; therefore, they make the rules...if you don't like it, there's always some place else to go.
A service like this (that costs the company little but has a high profit margin) can help pay for salaries, benefits, and, most importantly, R&D. |
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DaveNJ
No Fear
join:1999-09-01
New Jersey | ATT doesnt get it
Text should be built into plans, so they get a profit, no matter how much you send. If you get a data plan , it should be a package. There shouldn't be a per txt charge. |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
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Re: FAIL
said by manfmmd :You fail to realize that all of the text messages aren't making AT&T $.20 per message both ways in most cases. That only applies to phones without a texting plan... The messaging rate of 65k per second likely also takes into account system message which the customer is not charged for. edit to add: Unlimited texting is $15.00 which at $.20 is 75 messages...I use well over 160-170 messages per month.. I'm sure most other people on the unlimited plan do likewise.. Do the math.. And you don't realize the cost of those 75 messages is well under a penny. TOTAL. The fact is that of that $15 at&t charges for unlimited texting at least $14 is profit. So if only 10 million customers have unlimited texting at&t is still making $1.68 BILLION a year off of them. And at&t has to charge $500 per GB overage on their data plans why? They can't upgrade their network so they don't have to have 5 GB caps, why? |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
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Re: FAIL
said by Matt :said by manfmmd :Unlimited texting is $15.00 which at $.20 is 75 messages...I use well over 160-170 messages per month.. I'm sure most other people on the unlimited plan do likewise.. Do the math.. Unfortunately, AT&T has done the math and I would wager that the unlimited plans are priced right in line where it's cheaper to buy said unlimited plan than to just pay per text. Don't forget, it used to be $.1 per txt, then was raised to $.5, then $.10 and now $.20. The price hikes are to encourage people who otherwise wouldn't have signed up for an unlimited plan to do so. except I don't ever text so I don't have a plan. So perhaps if they went to 1 cent per text I would actually text and thus they would actually make money. |
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ssavoy
join:2007-08-16
Shavertown, PA | reply to Fox McCloud
Re: Sounds fine to me
There isn't anywhere else to go. That's the problem. You can't just say you hate AT&T's texting prices and switch to Verizon in hopes to save money. They're all pretty much the same. |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
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Re: sorta fail?
said by boogi man :so cut that by half? say 32,500 per sec? for the subscribed vs unsubscribed? and you are still talking big #'s $390,000/hr Hell just say 98% of those customers are unlimited data. The other 2% they make 8 BILLION a year off of. |
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manfmmd
Premium
join:2003-01-14
Earth
clubs:
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Re: sorta fail?
said by BF69 :said by boogi man :so cut that by half? say 32,500 per sec? for the subscribed vs unsubscribed? and you are still talking big #'s $390,000/hr Hell just say 98% of those customers are unlimited data. The other 2% they make 8 BILLION a year off of. Care to quantify/qualify those numbers via an AT&T earnings announcement instead of just speculating?
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
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Re: Oh no, not profits!
said by burrowowl :And here I figured carriers would charge what the market would bear. If you think it's not worth $0.20 to send a brief message to somebody, I would recommend against doing so or finding an alternate means. -- John Fitzgerald A) you assume there is an actual free market. Free market economics only aplly in markets that are actually free.
B) no the market can't bear it we are in a recesssion. I'm sorry at&t and Verizon can't live with billions in profits instead of tens of billions in profits. How sad for them. |
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