S_engineer
join:2007-05-16
Chicago, IL
 ·Comcast
| This should be interesting....
We'll all soon see the PR campaign from the carriers moving to show just how consumer freindly they are coupled with fake consumer advocacy groups showing net neutrality will be the apocolyse of the web....
It nice to see the FCC address the cap issue, although if they did, it probably wouldnt benefit the consumer!
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tubbynet
reminds me of the danse russe
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join:2008-01-16
Chandler, AZ | totally off topic, but...
doesn't that picture of genachowski look like he is the bastard offspring of adam carolla and seth mcfarlane?
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rdmiller
join:2005-09-23
Richmond, VA
| Super DSL
I'd like to hear more about the new technology that allows phone companies to put repeaters at every gas station out in the boondocks and give everyone in rural America a reasonably fast DSL connection. Other than cost and low ROI, what are the disadvantages? |
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Fox McCloud
Crazy like a fox.
join:2006-07-23
 ·Embarq
 ·Sprint Mobile Broa..
|  said by rdmiller  :I'd like to hear more about the new technology that allows phone companies to put repeaters at every gas station out in the boondocks and give everyone in rural America a reasonably fast DSL connection. Other than cost and low ROI, what are the disadvantages? once it hits the first load coil, DSL is toast.....that said, in a little more recent times, they've developed and released 'smart coils' which allows DSL to pass through....that said, the DSL isn't much faster than 768k at these distances and because of the coil; it's also been stated that with this type of DSL connection (usually called "extended reach") you'll have to reset your modem once a day.
It's just the way the tech is. |
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S_engineer
join:2007-05-16
Chicago, IL
·Comcast
| not to mention the cost of running and maintaining any high speed medium to the people in rural areas. One question for the FCC is just what do they consider rural; a person that lives on a farm, or a suburb with 800 homes?
Currently the carriers see neither as a money maker, so they want nothing to do with them. Just look at Verizons sale to Fairpoint. Is that rural?
Verizon didn't see enough profit so these areas were neglected and then dumped. This should not have happened, and clearly needs to be addressed.
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cableties
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join:2005-01-27 | Anywhere there is a phone line,
there should be broadband (ftth/fttf)
Fiber to the Farmhouse!!  |
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PhoenixDown
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join:2003-06-08
Fresh Meadows, NY
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| DSLR Project
DSLreports has a huge membership and most of us are fairly good at knowing what broadband options are available to us and are available in our area.
Maybe,... we can start our own project and map this out.
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tdouglas22
join:2001-09-25
Memphis, TN | Start using the site...
Ok people, let's not just sit here and go back and forth. Let's start using that submission link on the page and throw those questions at them. We've got a chance to get our foot in the door and make our voices heard. Let's get on it. |
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knightmb
Everybody Lies
join:2003-12-01
Franklin, TN
·AT&T DSL Service
| reply to rdmiller
Re: Super DSL
said by rdmiller :I'd like to hear more about the new technology that allows phone companies to put repeaters at every gas station out in the boondocks and give everyone in rural America a reasonably fast DSL connection. Other than cost and low ROI, what are the disadvantages? Already past it, replace DSL with "wireless" and you have something that it already being done, just isn't as exciting for the news.
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aeblank
join:2004-09-07
Cadillac, MI
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said by Fox McCloud :DSL isn't much faster than 768k at these distances and because of the coil; it's also been stated that with this type of DSL connection (usually called "extended reach") you'll have to reset your modem once a day. I'll take it!
I pay $60/mo. for 128k.
I'm 5 miles from meijer, walmart, home depot, and plenty of others. Town exploded north, and I'm outside of that. Makes all of us a long ways from the CO. |
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TKJunkMail
Enjoy the sun
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join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
·Sprint Mobile Broa..
·Comcast
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Re: Start using the site...
said by tdouglas22 :Ok people, let's not just sit here and go back and forth. Let's start using that submission link on the page and throw those questions at them. We've got a chance to get our foot in the door and make our voices heard. Let's get on it. And people, try to make practical suggestions. They don't have enough money to run fiber to every single house in the US. If suggestions like that are made, you will be totally ignored.
But for example, even with only $7 billion dollars, they could fund enough WISPS thru loans to make broadband available to much of rural America.
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Sammer
join:2005-12-22
Canonsburg, PA
| said by TKJunkMail :And people, try to make practical suggestions. They don't have enough money to run fiber to every single house in the US. If suggestions like that are made, you will be totally ignored. But for example, even with only $7 billion dollars, they could fund enough WISPS thru loans to make broadband available to much of rural America. Just as they don't run power and phone lines to every remote home there will never be fiber run to every single home. However if huge communications corporations like AT&T want to do business in our country they should be willing to run fiber a lot further than they are now. If they're not willing to do what needs to be done then our country should have an Independence From AT&T Day. |
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tdouglas22
join:2001-09-25
Memphis, TN
| said by Sammer :said by TKJunkMail :And people, try to make practical suggestions. They don't have enough money to run fiber to every single house in the US. If suggestions like that are made, you will be totally ignored. But for example, even with only $7 billion dollars, they could fund enough WISPS thru loans to make broadband available to much of rural America. Just as they don't run power and phone lines to every remote home there will never be fiber run to every single home. However if huge communications corporations like AT&T want to do business in our country they should be willing to run fiber a lot further than they are now. If they're not willing to do what needs to be done then our country should have an Independence From AT&T Day. Our country needs alternate solutions to AT&T and the other major corporations with the monopoly like this. I'm not looking for a new corporate monopoly for the rural access. I want alternative solutions that are viable. |
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mrkevin
Knowledge comes, but wisdom lingers.
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join:2007-08-07
Aurora, ME
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| another farce
The goal of the workshops will be to promote an open dialogue between the FCC and key constituents on matters important to the National Broadband Plan. Key constituents will include service providers, equipment providers, applications providers, community groups, and other groups that have a stake in the future of broadband. The FCC intends to conduct the workshops during August and early September. Please check the workshops schedule for more details. In the mean time, please suggest topics and questions for the workshops.
Yah... I wonder who these "key constituents" are and how they get picked.
Anyone here on BBR going to these "workshops"? I doubt it. |
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Sammer
join:2005-12-22
Canonsburg, PA | reply to tdouglas22
Re: Start using the site...
IOW you wanted that Independence From AT&T Day yesterday. Unfortunately if they don't consider themselves a part of the solution it's a sure bet they'll use their money and power to stop those alternative viable solutions. |
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ninjatutle
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join:2006-01-02
San Ramon, CA
·Sprint Mobile Broa..
| Nice!
Good to see boardband take precedence over other little things such as like national health reform and edacation. |
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me1212
join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO | reply to tdouglas22
Re: Start using the site...
"I want alternative solutions that are viable."
So do I, we already have some-ish but they are not being used to their full extent. |
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dMarks
Melting Faces For Fun
join:2007-02-09
Leslie, MI
·Millenicom
·HughesNet Satellit..
| The US setting a global standard? NOT
This is nothing but a smoke screen.
The US is supposed to be a country that is looked upon as a global leader, and yet we are sinking deeper into being considered a 3rd world country in regards to many aspects of technology. Internet is included in this.
We're far behind many countries that we consider "beneath" us on the "Information Highway" that is the internet. Why? Because the companies that provide the service are continually getting greedier and greedier by the minute. They have the resources to provide what the US needs to stay on top, but refuse because they won't make as much money as they do now by suppressing technological improvements which are readily available to them.
The US is quickly being nickle and dimed to death in this regard, and nobody seems to care, especially the Government. I predict in 10 years we'll be asking other countries to provide us with the same services we get now, simply because the companies that provide it currently want cheap labor to make even more money. Look to the automobile industry if you want proof...
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me1212
join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO | reply to TKJunkMail
Re: Start using the site...
"with only $7 billion dollars, they could fund enough WISPS thru loans to make broadband available to much of rural America."
Which, IMHO, is the way to go. Stop trying to get DSL to rural areas wireless is better for that. |
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dMarks
Melting Faces For Fun
join:2007-02-09
Leslie, MI
·Millenicom
·HughesNet Satellit..
| reply to ninjatutle
Re: Nice!
America doesn't really care about the health of it's citizens. Just like internet providers, health providers don't want to make less money by providing better services to more people.
However, if you make inroads to improvement in one major aspect of a country, you can make more...it has to start somewhere. While I agree that health care trumps internet service...this isn't a website that caters to health care.
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