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Comments on news posted 2009-07-08 09:21:14: Google this morning fired a chrome cannon at Microsoft by officially announcing that they're developing a Chrome operating system for PCs. Sort of; so far it looks like just an application running over Linux, but substantive details seem scarce. ..

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milnoc

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Interesting.

Who's the equivalent of Bill Gates at Google?

stevephl

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Open Source Chrome OS

There is already a mature stable open-source operating system available for free for PC's, called Linux.


r81984
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reply to milnoc
Re: Interesting.

"However, the operating systems that browsers run on were designed in an era where there was no web"
What a very stupid statement from Google.

All they are doing is making a linux distro that that will sync up with the rest of Google (skynet).
The day google becomes self-aware we are all screwed.
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openbox9

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Regulatory and Privacy Concerns?

said by Karl Bode See Profile :

Tying an OS to their online applications will certainly get the attention of regulators and privacy advocates
If it's open source, the regulatory and privacy concerns should be minimal....at least no worse than the attention that Google already already receives on those fronts

openbox9

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reply to stevephl
Re: Open Source Chrome OS

And *BSD, and OpenSoloris, and Darwin, and etc.

BTW, the Google OS appears to be based on Linux.


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About time

Since Google would have their name attached to it, I think they could get it mainstream. Maybe we'll finally have an alternative to MSFT in the corporate world!
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dcurrey
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Ok

Ok they have a complete OS about ready but still no completed chrome web browser for linux.


v35_pilot
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Why?

I wonder why besides ego would a company enter this market? With Linux already established as the de facto open source OS, is there really room and, more importantly, opportunity for Google's entry?

Seems a waste of talented resources' time to me. But, I will accept that I am clearly missing something.


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Re: Ok

said by dcurrey See Profile :

Ok they have a complete OS about ready but still no completed chrome web browser for linux.
I'm assuming that chrome for linux will be done by the time the os is out.

Don't forget that chrome basically uses webkit. So it's essentially like running Safari but with different bells and whistles.

I think it's a really great idea, they could literally replace the rendering engine of X in linux and replace it with web rendering and at this point the technology is mature enough to support it.
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End of an Era?

said by stevephl See Profile :

There is already a mature stable open-source operating system available for free for PC's, called Linux.
If you read the article, you'll see it uses the Linux kernel and adds a new windowing system to run the Chrome browser.

I would guess that it's not designed to run arbitrary local applications, like a "normal" OS. Rather it's a purpose-built platform to run the Chrome browser. The browser and the Web is the app platform. Offline/local use is managed by Google Gears.

This is much more like a consumer electronic device than a PC. It puts the PC at the high end of the smartphone food chain.

We may have just seen, on July 8, 2009, the announcement that marks the end of the PC era -- started by IBM with their original IBM PC announcement on August 8, 1981.

By the way this is open source but I would not call it "open". It's not designed to be flexible and changeable by the consumer. This is a feature -- no malware, no crapware. RMS is going to hate it, I guarantee.

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Re: Why?

said by v35_pilot See Profile :

I wonder why besides ego would a company enter this market? With Linux already established as the de facto open source OS, is there really room and, more importantly, opportunity for Google's entry?

Seems a waste of talented resources' time to me. But, I will accept that I am clearly missing something.
Yeah you are. Linux in its distributed forum is a tinkertoy set for techies. It has every bell and whistle imaginable, in 17 flavors. It is confusing as hell for the average consumer.

This OS happens to use the Linux kernel inside, but it will look nothing like Linux. It'll look like you put the Chrome browser on top of an appliance. Linux is just the platform, not the externally visible OS.

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reply to openbox9
Re: Open Source Chrome OS

AND, if someone other than Apple can design even a half-friendly user interface for it, it'll spread like wildfire. That's the problem with Linux: most people are not computer savvy or patient enough to jump through all the hoops required to make linux dance like Windows or OS X does.

Can Linux do everything that Windows does? Yes.
Is it a royal pain in the ass to do so? Almost certainly.

rdmiller

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reply to MyDogHsFleas
Re: End of an Era?

"We may have just seen, on July 8, 2009, the announcement that marks the end of the PC era -- started by IBM with their original IBM PC announcement on August 8, 1981."

More likely, this is the OS that will run in my next refrigerator.


dadkins
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Google OS?

Will it be in perpetual Beta?


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reply to v35_pilot
Re: Why?

Linux isn't hugely popular or widely used, so they're just probably trying to rebrand it. Large conglomerates do that all the time. I'm sure they're hoping they're far more successful and regular users will accept it as an alternative platform. I on the other hand see failure. There's enough compatibility issues with most softwares and Linux.

mlundin

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^^ What he said ^^

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said by sleuth See Profile :

Linux isn't hugely popular or widely used, so they're just probably trying to rebrand it. Large conglomerates do that all the time. I'm sure they're hoping they're far more successful and regular users will accept it as an alternative platform. I on the other hand see failure. There's enough compatibility issues with most softwares and Linux.
You don't get it. This is not Linux. This is a platform for Chrome.

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reply to v35_pilot
said by v35_pilot See Profile :

I wonder why besides ego would a company enter this market?
To extend their advertising and grow profits. It's been a long time coming for Google.

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reply to mlundin
Re: Open Source Chrome OS

said by mlundin See Profile :

AND, if someone other than Apple can design even a half-friendly user interface for it, it'll spread like wildfire.
There are a few "decent" UIs, the problem is OS compatibility with a lot of mainstream apps that "normal" people want/need to use.
said by mlundin See Profile :

Is it a royal pain in the ass to do so? Almost certainly.
Have you used one of the modern Linux distros lately? It's most definitely not difficult to install or use. The various X Window desktop developers have done a relatively decent job of mimicing a lot of Windows features.

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reply to rdmiller
Re: End of an Era?

said by rdmiller See Profile :

More likely, this is the OS that will run in my next refrigerator.
Now that I can see. It may also be an option for scaled down, "not quite dumb" desktops in large corporations as they move more of their processes to web-enabled applications. Think thin-client on steroids. MS Terminal Services exists, but it does have its limitations.
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