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On phone....

Was just on phone with att. I had 2000 rollover minutes back in may, but it combined with 4000 they credited me because my girlfriend lost all hers when we started up the family plan, they never told us we didn't need the family plan so they gave her back her minutes basically, totaling 6000 something. When the billing updated to 2 iphones on a family plan with 2 lines from one iphone on 2 individual lines under one acct it took us down to the 550, and all 6000 were lost. They just credited us back the documented 2012 minutes from before the merged accts, plus 800 all ready on there now. This is why i stay with att.

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i have att, love them, love the service, the phones, hate the taxes hahaha. But overall have no problems been with them for a very long time.
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scheme to resell plots,excavate the graves,dump remains

HOW could someone be this dang cold hearted ,I HOPE every dam one of those involved ESPECIALLY the cenemtary manager,never see the outside of a jail cell again, rot in jail,
it could just as easily happen to your loved one,
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Cemetery with missing grave sites declared crime scene
A Cook County cemetery where hundreds of graves were dug up and allegedly resold has been declared a crime scene, meaning that relatives of people believed buried there will not be allowed to visit for several days, an official said Frida
Officials say there was scheme to resell plots, excavate the graves, dump remains

»www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/07/10/ill···nSTCText

Four people face felony charges for their alleged involvement
Emmett Till's original casket found in dilapidated garage on cemetery grounds
Cemetery closed temporarily so officials can investigate
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Re: scheme to resell plots,excavate the graves,dump remains

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Emmett Till's original casket found in dilapidated garage on cemetery grounds
Not to detract from what may come from this; but it was the former casket of Emmit Till, in that shed. He was reburied in a new casket following the recent exhumation and investigation.

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Re: scheme to resell plots,excavate the graves,dump remains

said by Noah Vail See Profile :

said by NotRequired See Profile :

Emmett Till's original casket found in dilapidated garage on cemetery grounds
Not to detract from what may come from this; but it was the former casket of Emmit Till, in that shed. He was reburied in a new casket following the recent exhumation and investigation.

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but the story isn/t abbout just one old mans body, its about msny more over 3-4 yr peripd..ISN'T it.
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but the story isn/t abbout just one old mans body, its about msny more over 3-4 yr peripd..ISN'T it.
IT IS! IT IS!
Msny more. 3-4 yr peripd. I ADMIT IT!!

Oh, and Emmit Till wasn't all that old at the time of his death. He was 14 when he had his eye gouged out and was beaten to death for whistling at a white woman. I guess you could consider him old now; if you wanted to.

The beginning of my post contained a disclaimer. It alluded that my post was neutral. My post takes inaccurate details off the table now, so that they couldn't be used later to discredit any prosecution.

If anything, I was supporting what seemed to be your point. I was strengthening it by cleaning up an irrelevancy. If you cut down your morning coffee consumption, by say 12 cups or so, you might not reach your conclusions quite so quickly.

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This doesn't bother me at all. It's not like the families were negatively affected... moving grandpa to a specific plot isn't exactly going to bring him back to life.
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Re: scheme to resell plots,excavate the graves,dump remains

R.M. i know how you think,AND YOUR WAY Of THINKING there is nothing wrong with digging grandpa up,dumping his body out in the woods, clean up the coffin,fill the burial plot & me;tdown the metal headstone & resell the same otems & places to the newt SUCKER is there,
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R.M. i know how you think,AND YOUR WAY Of THINKING there is nothing wrong with digging grandpa up,dumping his body out in the woods, clean up the coffin,fill the burial plot & me;tdown the metal headstone & resell the same otems & places to the newt SUCKER is there,
They do this in Europe all the time. In Greece some families rent a grave space for 3 years at a time. Once the person is dead there is nothing left but an empty shell decaying in the ground. Most families stop visiting their loved one's grave site after 3 years, so 3 years is about the right grieving time for most people.

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said by 34702533 See Profile :

In Greece some families rent a grave space for 3 years at a time. Once the person is dead there is nothing left but an empty shell decaying in the ground. Most families stop visiting their loved one's grave site after 3 years, so 3 years is about the right grieving time for most people.
Also, is it feasible to tie up increasingly scarce land indefinitely? At some point we'd be using more land for the dead than the living.

I've heard the same thing you describe about Greece. It seemed to apply to countries with limited space. What I heard was Cuba buries people for 2-3 years.

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said by 34702533 See Profile :

said by NotRequired See Profile :

R.M. i know how you think,AND YOUR WAY Of THINKING there is nothing wrong with digging grandpa up,dumping his body out in the woods, clean up the coffin,fill the burial plot & me;tdown the metal headstone & resell the same otems & places to the newt SUCKER is there,
They do this in Europe all the time. In Greece some families rent a grave space for 3 years at a time. Once the person is dead there is nothing left but an empty shell decaying in the ground. Most families stop visiting their loved one's grave site after 3 years, so 3 years is about the right grieving time for most people.
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guess that will be in our used also, un used "family" plot(s), Mon & dad (in Fla) purchased a "family plot(s) mom,dad,brother,wife,2 child,my wife,me,2 child=10 space's

when mon 1st & then dad passed, they both wanted to be creamated,then brother passed,(his children paid for creamation & a mausoleum, me every time I've returned to Fa,its been because of death, my late wife only one in family plot, me?, I'll die here in Houston,but have space's for son & I in Rosenburg.
and yes tried to get EverGreen to exchange or ""I'll giv you the 9 plots plus late wifes place FREE in exchange you move exwife & re bury her here in Houston or Rosenburg, they said NO.
so looks like 9 empty family space's in @Everygreen, no never thought or even think about selling them.but hate idea of late wife ""being alone there"...
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said by NotRequired See Profile :

there is nothing wrong with digging grandpa up,dumping his body out in the woods, clean up the coffin,fill the burial plot & me;tdown the metal headstone & resell the same otems & places to the newt SUCKER is there,
That sounds about right. Traditional cemeteries and burial sites are a waste of perfectly good real estate that could be used to build parks, homes, schools, etc. - anything's more useful than a bunch of decomposed people. My neighborhood in the Garden Oaks area of Houston isn't littered too badly, but my home in West Houston has at least 2 huge cemeteries within a few miles of it. It really is a shame that the land can't be used for anything better.
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Re: scheme to resell plots,excavate the graves,dump remains

Whether it is a waste of real estate or not is debatable. Somebody, however, paid for that real estate to be used for a certain purpose. They, therefore, have the right to have that piece of land to be used for the burial of a loved one, regardless if somebody else thinks it is a good use for the land or not.
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They, therefore, have the right to have that piece of land to be used for the burial of a loved one, regardless if somebody else thinks it is a good use for the land or not.
keyword bolded. doesn't mean they're entitled to the plot for eternity.

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Re: scheme to resell plots,excavate the graves,dump remains

Of course it does if they own it.
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said by skj See Profile :

They, therefore, have the right to have that piece of land to be used for the burial of a loved one, regardless if somebody else thinks it is a good use for the land or not.
keyword bolded. doesn't mean they're entitled to the plot for eternity.
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Of course it does if they own it.
The family may not necessarily own the burial plot - it all depends on the contract signed. It could be just a "lease agreement" for X amount of years.

Family members are signing funeral agreements while distraught and not read what they are signing.

I'm not saying that is what happened in the case the OP quoted, but it is possible. I'm also not saying it's right to deceive grieving families by presenting an unclear contract, but IMO the funeral industry is now owned by profiteers, hungry for money and not caring how they get it. The small family owned funeral home is no longer - they are being bought up by one or two funeral home conglomerates.

There is a continuing movement toward the consolidation of the funeral
industry with large corporations owning many homes. Service Corporation
International, based in Houston, now owns at least 10 % of the registered
funeral homes in New York City and conducts about 13% of the funerals in
New York City. »www.ftc.gov/bcp/rulemaking/funer···tA03.pdf

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Why US workers are falling behind in productivity

It is this attitude by the slacker generation that is seeing the US falling farther and farther behind Asia in productivity & innovation. They are upset because they can't waste their day in work tweeting with their friends.

»tech.yahoo.com/news/ap/20090712/···internet
Ryan Tracy thought he'd entered the Dark Ages when he graduated college and arrived in the working world.

His employer blocked access to Facebook, Gmail and other popular Internet sites. He had no wireless access for his laptop and often ran to a nearby cafe on work time so he could use its Wi-Fi connection to send large files. They stopped him and his colleagues from using work time to goof around online.

Or they can't take a little down time to read a news story online or check their personal e-mail or social networking accounts. In some cases, they end up using their own Internet-enabled smart phones to get to blocked sites, either for work or fun.

There is, of course, another side of the story — from employers who worry about everything from wasted time on the Internet to confidentiality breaches and liability for what their employees do online. Such concerns have to be taken especially seriously in such highly regulated fields as finance and health care, says Nancy Flynn, a corporate consultant who heads the Ohio-based ePolicy Institute.

Flynn, at the ePolicy Institute, says it's important that employers have a clear online policy and then explain it. She believes not enough employers have conducted formal training on such matters as online liability and confidentiality. Meantime, her advice to any employee is this: "Don't start blogging. Don't start tweeting. Don't even start e-mailing until you read the company policy."
And here are some pitfalls for ignoring policy and goofing on the job: »tech.yahoo.com/news/ap/20090712/···web_tips

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It is this attitude by the slacker generation that is seeing the US falling farther and farther behind Asia in productivity & innovation. They are upset because they can't waste their day in work tweeting with their friends.
I've seen both sides. IMO the downside of mixing work and pleasure isn't that some people will have too much pleasure, it's that employees lose any sense of "on" and "off." The entire day (from 6am to 11pm) is work time with personal business mixed in. Telephone calls with Asia at 8PM. Europe at 4AM.

From my own experience, it wasn't healthy for the employee. The employer got a lot more time out of the employee than they would have with an "old school" 8 to 5 schedule. (But, probably not as much quality time due to the employee losing balance.).

I prefer the "old school" schedule. But, then I feel stuck in a rut, and miss the flexibility to goof off mid day (and work when I'm in the mood).

If I had my way, I'd like to switch back and forth between those styles of management every 4-6 months. More flexibility allows employees (in some fields) the ability to achieve more. But, it spins out of control after awhile. Most business environments can't wear two hats like that.

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how about down time where there is no work or they are waiting for manger BS to be able to do there job.

Fireman get payed to sit around waiting for the call.

and when rules also got in the way of legitimate work he needed to do as a scientific analyst for a health care services company.

That kills productivity as well.

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Innovation, I'd have to disagree.

The attitude of "Profit NOW, short term" and zero long term is what kills innovation. Now as for slackers, well, most of them get promoted to management, it seems....
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So the old CEO of the death star now heads our travel comps.

I can think of a much bigger joke here then just the fact thatr he doesn't know anything about cars.....
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The amazing brain dead gen y.

»www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,531···testnews

The more days go by the more I hate this generation. Nothing but lemmings who need mommy and daddy to constantly hold their hand.

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This is why "Clear and obvious hazard" laws are necessary.

You walk into an open manhole that is clearly visible and it should all be on you. Remember the cases of drunks "diving" into EMPTY swimming pools for example.
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