hoyleysox
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| Isn't this harsher than the last proposal?
Was the last proposal rejected because it was too lenient?
It just kicked people off the internet.
This proposal fines people hundreds of thousands of Euros and jailtime.
Maybe they are sending a message: accept this version or the next one will be even harsher. |
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2 edits | said by hoyleysox  :Was the last proposal rejected because it was too lenient? It just kicked people off the internet. This proposal fines people hundreds of thousands of Euros and jailtime. Maybe they are sending a message: accept this version or the next one will be even harsher. I suspect that by being forced by the high court to add court hearings to kick people off the internet to the bill, that was seen as adding a lot of costs to the state to the process. And therefore, cost recovery thru fines and the threat of prison would reduce costs two ways. The fines recoup some of the costs. And the threat of prison reduces thru fear the number of cases needing to be processed.
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sonicmerlin
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I read into this whole copyright issue in France. I was relieved to see the socialists outright oppose the three strikes law in any shape or form. |
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| If they know...
If they know who to kick off the 'net, then they know who to prosecute and punish for copyright infringement. Why is the Internet a question at all? Why can't they just follow their existing law for copyright infringement and bust the wrong-doers?
They're focusing on the tool. They need to focus on the wrongdoers who are, after all, making a copy of a song and giving it away without any malice whatsoever -- hardly something to lose Internet Access, Euros, or even Freedom over.
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jester121
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France's Constitutional Council recently gutted the country's new three strikes law, which would have forced ISPs to kick heavy P2P users from the Internet. So now Karl is in agreement that all P2P is good for is pirating?
The regulations apply to piracy, not just "heavy P2P users". |
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mod_wastrel
join:2008-03-28 | And for stealing bread...
they'll re-institute that old practice of cutting off your hands. |
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openbox9
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... not as I do:
"As Techdirt's Masnick notes, it's unlikely that bill-supporter and French President Nicolas Sarkozy, who recently was busted for violating copyright, would have wanted his own particular case given just five minutes of consideration."
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BabyBear
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join:2007-01-11 | reply to openbox9
Re: And for stealing bread...
Until a bunch of stolen loaves of bread are found with bite marks.  |
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NetFixer
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| said by BabyBear :Until a bunch of stolen loaves of bread are found with bite marks. The French have an historic cure for that crime too.
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jig
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this would be unconstitutional in the US. it's probably not kosher in France either.
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jmycknshk
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| hmm
it's a feel-good band-aid that won't really accomplish much. are they really going to be able to enforce this, when it's easy to leach on to your neighbor's open connection, crack WEP(which lots of people still use--i.e., verizon FIOS setups), or spoof MAC addresses?
it's hard to catch a moving target, too. anyone could drive around on city wi-fi or hotspots and they would never know.
what they need is jail time, if they want to make it effective.
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