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Comments on news posted 2009-07-17 16:24:18: When the Pirate Bay announced late last month that the popular BitTorrent portal would be purchased, the new owners raised eyebrows by announcing they'd like to "introduce models which entail that content providers and copyright owners get paid for c.. ..

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partysource

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There Goes My Free Movies

Damn this suuuuucks!


Logan 5
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It was bound to happen....eventually.

If anyone thought that TPB would stay the same after it's founders abandoned it to it's fate is at best naive and at worst....dumb.

With the *.AA's now wanting "their cut" from the sale, and the Pirate Bay former founders now backpedaling and saying that they actually have not been involved with the business since 2006, it was only a matter of time before something like this happened...

Can't wait to see the mass exodus from there once word of this spreads through the 'net..

They should rename the site SS Baytanic because now, with it becoming a "pay to play" site it's gonna sink faster then that famous ship did when it hit the iceberg....


meister_sd
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Google?

I guess I'll start using Google more for torrents.

Funny thing, I can find links on Google for TPB that I can't find on TPB directly.

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Usenet

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Matt
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 Interesting

This will be interesting for a couple of reasons.

I think this will prove that the vast majority of the thieves will simply move to other free trackers and even cheap content won't change their behavior. (As if there weren't a myriad of ways to obtain cheap content now anyway.)

I will say, I like this idea though. Harnessing end-user computing power, bandwidth, and storage space is something I've thought would be a good idea for a long time. I think it will be interesting to see how effective this idea is for the users who do stick around. I hope the content producers can reach an agreement with TPB, but my guess is someone else without TPB's history will take this idea and make it successful. I don't think the content producers will work with TPB on principle ... and I can't say I blame them.


Logan 5
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Re: Google?

Probably people already putting their torrents up on other sites and avoiding TPB....


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Re: Usenet

said by cooldude9919 See Profile :

The first rule of usenet is......
Usenet has already lost the first round with Usenet.com losing in court. The other usenet providers are next I would imagine.

JSRoman
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The must have no clue who the user base of Pirate bay was.
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said by cooldude9919 See Profile :

The first rule of usenet is......
Lol... how naive are you by the way??

What do you think is going to be next once the RIAA & MPAA finish taking Bit Torrent tracker sites apart site by site?

Rapidshare & Megaupload are already feeling the heat as they regularly take down content, sometimes as fast as it's uploaded so what makes you (or anybody) think that usenet sites are thought of any differently in the minds of the *.AA's....?

It's been proven that the *.AA's have a long reach and bottomless bank accounts because the Studios are giving them cart blanche to terminate the threat that they perceive to their archaic business model "by any means necessary".....
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jmn1207
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Re: Google?

So, when trying to claim immunity from copyright infringement, Pirate Bay is just a search engine for torrent links, and is no different from Google, yet they claim to offer all the music anyone can download for a fee?

Lazlow

join:2006-08-07
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reply to Logan 5
Re: It was bound to happen....eventually.

I would not call it backpedaling. After the first round (2006) the Pirate Bay guys transferred ownership out of their hands. The recent lawsuit was against the operators and not the owners. So unless they want to go back to court against the owners, they are just SOL.


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Watch their userbase plummet to zero

If they really expect users to now pay for what they used to get for free, they've got another thing coming.

Even if users agree to some kind of collective licensing agreement, the copyright holders likely will not, or demand that everything be locked down with DRM.

Either way, PayBay will be a failure.
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BIGMIKE
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Re: Google?

Google Custom Search

»www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=00384···hdbygrma


SLD
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Kinda...

Kinda defeats the purpose of leaching, doesn't it?!?

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A start though...given thought

Actually, for a nominal monthly fee (say substantially less then the average cable bill) I'd say this could have legs provided the transfer rates could be maintained. I'd buy into something like that, the problem being that the *AA's will want too much money to make this possible. Like a pool full of leaches they'll bleed the idea dry and destroy the idea before it can take off.

The reason a lot of people, okay, well from my point of view, use P2P for illegal downloads is that they really don't see what they are dl'ing has that much value. However, if they can get the DL for a price that IS reasonable they may actually spend the money on it. Look at the IPOD phenom, a dollar a song, big whoop...and they are making millions every day.

Use the cable TV theory, pay a monthly fee (REASONABLE, cheaper then cable, much cheaper then cable) make the movies/TV Shows available direct from the DVD at the same quality, utilize all your users machines, and voila, suddenly you've adapted to the new technology, and viola, you are suddenly capable of making a profit (where there was losses)with very little overhead. Piracy will NEVER go away, but now you've found a way to use a technology that originated for piracy (don't start the argument, it's why I use it, as well as many others) and make a couple of bucks from it.

The problem, again, the studio's will do everything they can to bleed too much money out of it to allow it be viable.

Ian

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Re: Usenet

said by Matt See Profile :

said by cooldude9919 See Profile :

The first rule of usenet is......
Usenet has already lost the first round with Usenet.com losing in court. The other usenet providers are next I would imagine.
They where stupid and blatantly advertised downloading mp3's and then did more stupid things such as hiding witnesses.

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Now where will I download my linux distros?


milnoc

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Aaaaaargh!

You sank my Pirate Ship! Shiver me timbers!


TigerLord
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Re: Usenet

Usenet has been around longer than Internet has, you're the naïve one if you think the **AA will take usenet providers down, ever...


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