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Comments on news posted 2009-07-17 16:24:18: When the Pirate Bay announced late last month that the popular BitTorrent portal would be purchased, the new owners raised eyebrows by announcing they'd like to "introduce models which entail that content providers and copyright owners get paid for c.. ..

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cpsycho

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Idea

How about insted of charging users. Make a Pirate bay only torrent program. Put on ads then there is the website ads. Use that money to pay the RIAA.

Im not gonna pay to have people use my bandwidth and resources, limiting my net.

But If I get the stuff for free, just having to deal with ads. Yeah I could do that.

But it seems this guy wants his cake and eat it too.

jonnyz
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TOS / $$$ killer?

So basically, TPB wants users to run mini-servers from their own computers while the "dumb pipes" see no $$. If this actually comes into existence and doesn't piss a few major ISPs off in one way or another, I'd be surprised.
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ztmike
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No more pirates?

Looks like the new owners will have to change the name ..because REAL pirates don't pay for anything.

mrkevin
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Re: No more pirates?

ARRRRR, I be seeing the black spot for these scallywags and son's of biscuit eaters ARRRR
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Rebuild or the (slightly) same?

Will they be restructuring all of TPB to have only approved torrents by them and the industries? Or, will it be the same as it is now with the addition of the $9 a month fee? If the latter is true then I assume this will give me the rights to download whatever TPB torrent I use? If that's the case I'm interested to see how it works out.
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matradley
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Time to move on...

As my subject denotes... plenty of free options out there, it is time to move on from TPB.

gigahurtz
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Public Trackers?

Does anyone use public trackers anymore?
patcat88

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Jamaica, NY

Re: Public Trackers?

said by gigahurtz See Profile :

Does anyone use public trackers anymore?
So who wants to deal with ratios that its impossible to upload anything because each torrent more than 1 hour old has 100 uploaders and 1 downloader, and 50 of the uploaders are seedboxes with a 10 ms ping on gigabit ports straight into a Tier 1 ISP. Your 1-2 mbps upload is nothing, you'll upload a few minutes and a few mBs, then the downloader is done and becomes and uploader, and you uploaded basically nothing.

Plus don't you know using a private tracker is the best way for the **AAs to get you?

Private trackers limit you to a couple of active torrents. Torrents go dead within a week or 2. So much for selection and a retention time over usenet and 1 click hosting.

Then there is the invite system, and all your friend has to do is send an email to the tracker admin saying you sold your invite, and then you and everyone you invited is banned.

Buying retail from best buy is less of a root canal than dealing with a private tracker.

fonzbear2000
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Re: Public Trackers?

said by patcat88 See Profile :

said by gigahurtz See Profile :

Does anyone use public trackers anymore?
So who wants to deal with ratios that its impossible to upload anything because each torrent more than 1 hour old has 100 uploaders and 1 downloader, and 50 of the uploaders are seedboxes with a 10 ms ping on gigabit ports straight into a Tier 1 ISP. Your 1-2 mbps upload is nothing, you'll upload a few minutes and a few mBs, then the downloader is done and becomes and uploader, and you uploaded basically nothing.

Plus don't you know using a private tracker is the best way for the **AAs to get you?

Private trackers limit you to a couple of active torrents. Torrents go dead within a week or 2. So much for selection and a retention time over usenet and 1 click hosting.

Then there is the invite system, and all your friend has to do is send an email to the tracker admin saying you sold your invite, and then you and everyone you invited is banned.

Buying retail from best buy is less of a root canal than dealing with a private tracker.
1. I've NEVER had problems keeping my share ratio up on demonoid. Even with stuff that's months old.

2. How is a private tracker the best way for the **AA's to get you?

3. I've been using demonoid for quite some time now and I've gotten stuff that's OVER a year old so I don't see how there's a problem with retention.

4. Why would your friend send an email to the admin tracker saying that?
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patcat88

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Re: Public Trackers?

said by fonzbear2000 See Profile :

1. I've NEVER had problems keeping my share ratio up on demonoid. Even with stuff that's months old.
Sometimes the inability to upload because there are no downloaders gets so bad that the private trackers create "upload only" torrents otherwise 75% of their users will get banned sooner or later unless they have FIOS or a seedbox in a datacenter or university. Few use "upload only" torrents and just ban anyone below ratio or extort them for $ donations.
2. How is a private tracker the best way for the **AA's to get you?
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oink's_Pink_Palace

Raid server and get IP logs, or operate it as a honeypot, or just wiretap the tracker for months. Directv has been much better at it than the *AAs. »yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=···7/190232 »www.hackhu.com/
3. I've been using demonoid for quite some time now and I've gotten stuff that's OVER a year old so I don't see how there's a problem with retention.
How many times you found the torrent dead or delisted after a few months?

An example from some years ago was »torrentlounge.com/ but the site changed ownership and isn't a private tracker anymore.

There is another site I have as an example, but I'm not near the computer that has that torrent to get the name of the tracker.
4. Why would your friend send an email to the admin tracker saying that?
for the lulz
Stojko
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said by patcat88 See Profile :

said by gigahurtz See Profile :

Does anyone use public trackers anymore?
So who wants to deal with ratios that its impossible to upload anything because each torrent more than 1 hour old has 100 uploaders and 1 downloader, and 50 of the uploaders are seedboxes with a 10 ms ping on gigabit ports straight into a Tier 1 ISP. Your 1-2 mbps upload is nothing, you'll upload a few minutes and a few mBs, then the downloader is done and becomes and uploader, and you uploaded basically nothing.

Plus don't you know using a private tracker is the best way for the **AAs to get you?

Private trackers limit you to a couple of active torrents. Torrents go dead within a week or 2. So much for selection and a retention time over usenet and 1 click hosting.

Then there is the invite system, and all your friend has to do is send an email to the tracker admin saying you sold your invite, and then you and everyone you invited is banned.

Buying retail from best buy is less of a root canal than dealing with a private tracker.
I've had no problems with private trackers. Seeding sometimes takes a while, but you just need to have patience.

If you don't trust a person enough to send them an invite to the site, don't. An actual friend wouldn't send an email to the administrator saying you sold your invite to them. I've invited people to various trackers probably 100 times and I've never had any problems with invitees.

I fear a bit though that the **AAs will be focusing more on private trackers after The Pirate Bay is gone. With TPB taking all the heat in the past, the private trackers were mostly safe since the focus was on the trial/getting people from public swarms/etc but now with the largest bittorrent tracker (and the most known) sold, they will probably move on to smaller private trackers.

user3657

join:2000-04-27
Trenton, NJ

hrm

for people who say this isnt going to work for the new owners...........well you seem to have forgotten what happened with napster.

because of the media everyone and their mom's know about pirate bay. the new owners are going to make a killing even if it only lasts a few years.

fonzbear2000
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isohunt is MUCH better that TPB and MOST torrent sites!

isohunt.com which searches MANY torrent sites at the SAME time>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>most torrent sites which search ONLY that site.
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Stojko
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Re: isohunt is MUCH better that TPB and MOST torrent sites!

said by fonzbear2000 See Profile :

isohunt.com which searches MANY torrent sites at the SAME time>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>most torrent sites which search ONLY that site.
It's not an actual tracker, though, and all the torrents on Isohunt with The Pirate Bay tracker (probably most) will probably be gone after the new owners take over.

fonzbear2000
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Re: isohunt is MUCH better that TPB and MOST torrent sites!

said by Stojko See Profile :

said by fonzbear2000 See Profile :

isohunt.com which searches MANY torrent sites at the SAME time>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>most torrent sites which search ONLY that site.
It's not an actual tracker, though, and all the torrents on Isohunt with The Pirate Bay tracker (probably most) will probably be gone after the new owners take over.
What is the big deal about The Pirate Bay???? There are TONS of other torrent sites out there which isohunt searches.
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felony
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what do i get?

so i pay a fee, what do i get? unlimited torrent downloads without fear of copyright/legal ramifications.
gmoney_indy

join:2004-01-29
Fishers, IN

R.I.P. Pirate Bay

Arrrrr....it was good to have known ye.
Derfel

join:2004-06-06
Winnipeg, MB

Sold out...


rob_in_chatt
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Chattanooga, TN

TPB.org

all that talking by anakata and well guess what............TPB caved. how many years have we read the responses about it not going anywhere? i guess they got tired of the headache.

yolarry

join:2007-12-29
Creston, WV

Torrents

Never work for me.

Also their website fronts to freaking small or weird looking

Augustus III
If Only Rome Could See Us Now....

join:2001-01-25
Gainesville, GA

yes

I will gladly use my credit card to sign up for a paid account... while at it, anyone up for that 5 month special the fbi is running on kiddiporn.tv?

the problem is not the fee, it is the control, restrictions, censorship and identifiers that come with it.
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