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Comments on news posted 2009-09-02 12:05:21: Declan McCullagh has for years had a nasty habit of actually reading the laws Congress passes into law, which is frequently more than can be said of Congress itself. ..
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 | | The CNET article is 100% correct The Wired article is 100% wrong and the CNET article is 100% right. DSLReports should remove their link to the Wired article because it is Orwellian. Wired must be part of some State run media. | |
| | | this bill was scarry I will need to go read it again I think the scary words were gives the president the power to stop internet traffic if he feels there is a threat, in the wrong hands this could be dangerous I dont think Obama would excessive it but who is to say he could not decide everyone who apposes his is a threat
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Atlanta, GA | Shutdown the whole internet? I don't think so... The one thing I've been waiting to read in this thread but haven't seen any mention of is the fact that the internet was originally designed to survive even a nuclear attack. It would be practically impossible to "shut down" the internet. To do so, one would have to sever all possible network connections between point A and point B as well as take all DNS servers available offline (and you could still reach your destination by using IP addresses or if you happened to run your own DNS server....) As far as I can see, there is no internet "kill switch", at least not for ALL users. Yes, large numbers of users can be taken offline by disabling the DNS servers of major ISP's, but everyone??? I don't think so. Opinions, please... | |
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| Re: Shutdown the whole internet? I don't think so... "We must protect our critical infrastructure at all costs--from our water to our electricity, to banking, traffic lights and electronic health records,"
if those systems are so "critical" then they should not be connected to the internet anyway. | |
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Whitney, TX | Hmm Guess You all don't remember or recall the Iran protesters and uprising after there last election . The Iran Gov shut down all Internet traffic | |
| | | | Re: Hmm > "The Iran Gov shut down all Internet traffic"
Really? When did the Iranian government allow your internet service to resume? | |
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Whitney, TX | Re: Hmm Excuse me, I don't live in Iran , you being sarcastic or just another liberal Idiot ? | |
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Hollywood, FL | Re: Hmm said by nOv1c3:Excuse me, I don't live in Iran , you being sarcastic or just another liberal Idiot ? I think he's doing a perhaps less than obvious to you job of saying what you meant was Iran shut down Internet service in Iran.
They didn't shut down ALL Internet service everywhere.
He might be a sarcastic smartazz but you don't need to toss the "liberal idiot" thing out there.
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kudos:1 | "Critical infrastructure information system" Has everyone just completely missed the fact that "Critical infrastructure information system" is a defined designation?
It's a designation given to state, local, and non-government systems used for emergency management, homeland security, and public safety response in disasters. Many systems already have this designation, and it is a lengthy process to get it, not just something that the POTUS can do on a whim.
(In order to even get the designation, the system has to be included as part of a State's annual homeland security grant application. I assume there are other ways to get the designation by working directly with federal agencies too.)
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Whitney, TX | Re: "Critical infrastructure information system" It comes down to trust . A man is judged by the company he keeps
Obama: 'Judge me by the people who surround me
September 3, 1:56 PMColumbia Conservative ExaminerAnthony G. MartinPrevious During the 2008 Presidential campaign Barack Obama told audiences, 'Judge me by the people with whom I surround myself.'
OK, we will.
And that is precisely the problem with Obama.
In order to understand Barack Obama one must look beyond the official, Congressional-approved Cabinet choices to the truckload of unofficial 'czars,' 'special advisor's,' and 'officers' he has chosen to come to the White House to have direct access to him.
If one uses the criterion Obama laid out by which to judge his character, political ideology, and plans for the country, we can only conclude that the President is a far-Left extremist who disdains capitalism and free commerce, free speech in the open marketplace of ideas, Caucasian people who have accumulated wealth, and any dissent from the concepts propounded by his 'regime.'
How do we know this? Look at his czars, special advisers, and officers. These are the ones closest to Obama.
John Holdren, science czar, advocates for population control using the most extreme measures, such as mandating the number of children Americans can have. He is also a proponent of 'de-developing' the United States, sending its agricultural practices and technology back to the 19th century. Holdren has also suggested that infants and chronically ill elderly do not fit his definition of 'human,' and therefore can be expendable.
Cass Sunstein, regulatory czar and Harvard law professor, believes that animals should have the right to legal representation. If you try to get rid of rats in your home, a 'concerned citizen' could bring a lawsuit, with the rat as the plaintiff, to sue you for endangering a species. He also believes that if bloggers post something that turns out to be false, they should be prosecuted. In short, Sunstein is a Leftwing moonbat with Fascist leanings. Remember, Obama said to judge him by the people around him.
Ezekiel Emanuel, healthcare czar, believes in using cost-benefit and comparative-benefit analysis to allocate healthcare resources. This means the fewer years you have left to live, the less cost-effective it is to treat you. Thus, most of those resources should be diverted from the elderly to younger people. This is the 'rationing' portion of ObamaCare that many of us have warned about. And this will be done even without the so-called 'public option,' which is not really what the debate about government control of healthcare is about in the first place. Even without the public option, the provision for rationing is inherent in the provisions of the bill, thanks to advisers such as Emanuel.
Van Jones, green jobs czar, is perhaps the most extremist of the extreme in the entire lot. As a self-avowed, self-identified Communist, Jones abhors liberty, the Constitution, the American way of life, and seeks to change it from top to bottom. Here is more on Van Jones.
Mark Loyd, FCC 'diversity czar,' supports Communist Hugo Chavez in Venezuela and believes that what Chavez did to squelch free speech in the media and seize the means of communication is a good model for the United States. His plan is to silence conservative talk radio by forcing ownership to change hands to minorities and by implementing a fee structure for licensing that will put most private broadcasters out of business. At that point, Loyd would make PBS, or NPR on the radio, the most powerful forces in broadcasting--controlled by the government, of course.
Due to the areas over which they have jurisdiction, the above-named 'special advisers' to Obama are the key players. Jobs, communication, healthcare, agriculture, population control--all of these amount to a major shift in the way America has operated as a Free Republic for over 200 years.
Questions for consideration: Given these czars and special advisers who have offices in the White House with easy access to the President, how, then, should we judge Barack Obama's ideas and plans for the country, just as he asked us to do? Why is a Communist operating out of the White House as one of Obama's closet advisers? What can Americans reasonably expect over the next few years if the policies espoused by Loyd, Jones, Sunstein, Emanuel, and Holdren are implemented? | |
| | | marigoldsGainfully employed, finallyPremium,MVM
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kudos:1 | Re: "Critical infrastructure information system" I don't get how a lack of trust in Obama connects to his inability to change the critical infrastructure information system designation.
Congress has already passed a law that prevents him from changing the regulation in an arbitrary and capricious way. That means going through the legislatively defined bureaucratic channels in order to change this designation, which takes months and is subject to Congressional and Judicial review.
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Newton Upper Falls, MA | I see you get most of your information from Glynn Beck....good for you.
I know John Holdren. I worked with him before he became the science adviser. He would laugh hysterically at that.
You listed a bunch of highly educated, kind, intelligent people with families and loved ones. Do you REALLY think they are these comic book super villains? Are you really that dense?
You know absolutely nothing about Ezekiel Emanuel. Where the hell did you get this information? Do you even bother to confirm even the slightest bit if this?
How can you sleep at night? You're lying. You're spreading fake news. Seriously. How do you live with yourself? | |
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Niagara Falls, NY | I Guess I'm Wrong.... I assumed that when I read the article that an intelligent discussion would result in the forum. Boy, was I mistaken! So many idiotic Fox rants and Republican talking points. Fox News is a Entertainment channel, it does not rely on any facts. Republicans are the party of NO! They have no ideas of their own so they just say NO to anything the Democrats propose. Pathetic! I expected more of the dsl reports community. | |
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