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Comments on news posted 2009-09-09 14:36:35: On the heels of this morning's 7.2 Mbps expansion announcement, AT&T also says they're introducing a Friends & Family (or myFaves)-esque feature dubbed the AT&T "A-List. ..

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kapil
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join:2000-04-26
Chicago, IL

Pfft

AT&T and Verizon own enough network elements and bandwidth that they truly could make wireless unlimited at a reasonable price...but wireless is a big cash cow for both and wireline is dying, so they won't out of greed!

Both AT&T and Verizon have so many wireless and wireline customers that the bulk of the calls probably stay on their own network.
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Matt3
All noise, no signal.
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Jamestown, NC
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Nice Feature

This will be a nice way for us to drop our monthly plan to save some money.


NOCTech75
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join:2009-06-29
Marietta, GA

reply to kapil

Re: Pfft

Maybe you could start your own company where it's sole purpose is to lose money, buck the makin money trend.


skj
Welcome to the far side of reality
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join:2002-04-04
Gone South

Same thing as Verizon

Verizon already has this same feature called "Family and Friends".

kaila

join:2000-10-11
Lincolnshire, IL

Don't qualify..........

I'm on the $40/450min iPhone plan, and this feature won't be worth the extra $20mo to change minute plans for me. I will be happy to voip as much as I want when I'm using wifi though......
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Caddyroger
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join:2001-06-11
To the west

reply to kapil

Re: Pfft

If that the case then return 50% of your pay back to your employer
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Nightfall
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Thats a lot of minutes

My wife and I both have a family talk plan with 450 minutes because thats all we use. Sure, we go over some months but a majority of months we are under and rollover covers us. I went to the AT&T website to check on this because I do have an Iphone and it might be a cool feature.

Thats when I read the qualifications....

quote:
If your individual plan is 900+ minutes ($59.99 or over) per month, or your FamilyTalk plan is 1400+ minutes ($89.99 or over) per month, you'll be ready to add your A-List on September 20!

So 1400 minutes? We spend over $90 a month because I have an Iphone and data plan, but we don't have 1400 minutes. That seems to be a little excessive. If you are getting the A-list, it means you talk a lot. Wouldn't putting 10 people on your A-list DECREASE your minute use? Which means you are talking with no minute usage if you call someone on the A-list or they call you. In the end, you have more minutes that go on your rollover and expire at the end of 12 months.

I don't know, but it just seems a little high to me.
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wifi4milez
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join:2004-08-07
New York, NY

reply to Caddyroger

Re: Pfft

said by Caddyroger:

If that the case then return 50% of your pay back to your employer
Dear Leader has "enlightened" me by allowing me to give back almost 50% of my income to the government, and I LOVE IT! Its not like I had a need for that money anyway.......


morbo
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Dislike these types of plans

I really dislike these types of cell phone plans. It needlessly complicates what should be simple: using a cell phone. Yes yes, I understand it 'adds value' ~violent shudder~ but the only plan that will get my attention is one that costs less overall, not these little games the big guys are playing.


ArrayList
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join:2005-03-19
Evanston, IL

reply to Nightfall

Re: Thats a lot of minutes

your right. these "deals" are not really deals.. unless you talk A LOT. a god awful amount. people get these "deals" when they don't do the math and take the salespersons word for it. or they just use an absorbent amount of minutes.


en102
Canadian, eh?

join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA

reply to kaila

Re: Don't qualify..........

Same here... I'm on the 550/$59.99 family plan , and don't qualify. To pay $30/month more, it would be the same as cutting my landline...which includes free calling to Canada. Not happening.
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en102
Canadian, eh?

join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA

reply to ArrayList

Re: Thats a lot of minutes

With a 1400 plan and rollover, unless you're hitting 1400 minutes/month (not including m2m/n+w), you might as well be already considered unlimited. That's 23 hours of non-weekend, non-night time calling. Sure, if I was using my cellphone as a personal work phone, it might be worth it.
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Matt3
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reply to wifi4milez

Re: Pfft

said by wifi4milez:

said by Caddyroger:

If that the case then return 50% of your pay back to your employer
Dear Leader has "enlightened" me by allowing me to give back almost 50% of my income to the government, and I LOVE IT! Its not like I had a need for that money anyway.......
If 50% of your income is going to the Feds, you need to fire your CPA for stealing from you ... or hire one.


tiger72
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reply to morbo

Re: Dislike these types of plans

said by morbo:

I really dislike these types of cell phone plans. It needlessly complicates what should be simple: using a cell phone. Yes yes, I understand it 'adds value' ~violent shudder~ but the only plan that will get my attention is one that costs less overall, not these little games the big guys are playing.
Seriously?
They save you money by letting you drop to lower plans. May not be useful for business users that call many different people, but for residential lines, MyFaves and A-List/Friends&Family save people money on their monthly bills.
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tiger72
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reply to ArrayList

Re: Thats a lot of minutes

said by ArrayList:

your right. these "deals" are not really deals.. unless you talk A LOT. a god awful amount. people get these "deals" when they don't do the math and take the salespersons word for it. or they just use an absorbent amount of minutes.
T-Mobile offers myfaves for individual plans as low as 300 minutes and Family plans as low as 400 (not 1400) minutes.

These offers are not always bad deals. Chances are if they're from ATT or VZW, they are though.
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Matt3
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reply to en102

Re: Don't qualify..........

said by en102:

Same here... I'm on the 550/$59.99 family plan , and don't qualify. To pay $30/month more, it would be the same as cutting my landline...which includes free calling to Canada. Not happening.
Oooh, I misread the article. Yeah, we won't be eligible for this as we're on an 800 minute plan (700 minute from AT&T directly) that is a little less than $69.99/month. Well that sucks ...


morbo
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reply to tiger72

Re: Dislike these types of plans

yes, seriously. I don't believe many people will be able to drop to a lower plan because of the limits of being on a plan--you must spend $60 a month individually or $80+ as a family to even qualify. sure, maybe a few, again, KISS policy says this is needlessly complicated. just lower the overall price a bit and people will be more inclined to upgrade to a plan with more minutes.

Chaldo

join:2008-03-18
West Bloomfield, MI

I KNEW this was COMING

I was talking to a at&t rep and asked about this 2 freaking days ago, she said Well as you know these calls are recorded I can't say much but what you said has a possibility of coming to AT&T if they think it will work, and they have been discussing it.

openbox9
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reply to morbo

Re: Dislike these types of plans

said by morbo:

It needlessly complicates what should be simple: using a cell phone.
That's the point This is a mechanism to entice uneducated consumers to spend more than they really need. A lot of people look at "unlimited calls to/from 10 people" and buy it hook, line, and sinker. They don't understand, or ignore the fact, that they'll end up paying more for the increased service tier to get the "free" calling than if they had just stayed within their existing tier. I looked at VZW's Friends and Family offering and it didn't make financial sense given my family's usage pattern.


r81984
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reply to kapil

Re: Pfft

said by kapil:

AT&T and Verizon own enough network elements and bandwidth that they truly could make wireless unlimited at a reasonable price...but wireless is a big cash cow for both and wireline is dying, so they won't out of greed!

Both AT&T and Verizon have so many wireless and wireline customers that the bulk of the calls probably stay on their own network.
Not when people call scammy Iowa conference call numbers and ATT and Verizon get billed $.06 a minute.
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