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Comments on news posted 2009-09-23 12:05:13: Insiders involved with AT&T's belated launch of iPhone MMS support tell us that everybody's highly anxious about the launch, as the carrier rushes to beef up infrastructure in order to handle the added strain the functionality will impose on the carr.. ..

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Gbcue
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Re: verizon would be the same

said by detfan:

said by Gbcue:

Not WiFi, and not an iPhone.
Not sure what you use, but on my Bold I can talk, text, Email, anything at the same time..I love that.
I already said I can do that. What is wrong with your reading comprehension today?
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schwartzki

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Just a bit of info on WCDMA

The problem is indeed att, but another thing you don't realize is that verizon has put alot of money into their network a couple years ago making it robust whereas att puts it in as needed. The main limitation to this inability to connect make calls etc is back haul and 3G power itself.

You might have seen recently att press releases about 2nd carriers of 3G. WCDMA technology otherwise known as 3G on ATT, is a shared power system. The more users that are on the more noise there is the less coverage there is. During the course of the day cell sites footprints will shrink due to load (known as breathing) which is part of your reason for poor coverage and data speeds. The other is lack of resources on att's back haul side. They def don't have the back haul to support many users requesting lots of data. I think the approach they have taken is reactive, not proactive, but I also think they were not expecting the sheer amount of data that iphone uses consume. Don't think that they are idly sitting by and letting their service going to crap, but it takes time to beef up their network.

Could they do a better job making it better? Oh hell yes

Im not supporting att, just trying to educate

The next time your 3G iPhone cannot make a call or send a text, try turning 3G off...just a thought

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Re: Be Afraid, Be Very Afraid!

Associates or Bachelors? or Masters?
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Increase.....

There is absolutely no reason to increase any fees, in fact what they should be doing is thanking iPhone users for not bailing entirely.

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Re: I've been able to send pictures to friends and family

said by bigboy:

Since Day 1.

It's called e-mail folks.

Welcome to the 21st century. SMS and MMS are so 1990s.
LOL. How many people do you think can check email on their phone? Typical Apple behaviour, thinking because Apple took away MMS, it was "better". Think again, because Apple brought it back due to popular demand.
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Re: Apple - King of Media

said by tiger72:

I have a hardon for placing blame where it's due. If I didn't like the phone at all, I wouldn't own one. See below:
Before OS 3.0, Apple didn't support it. Apple fankids seem to "forget" stuff like that. I own an iPhone (and a G1) which my girlfriend uses on T-Mobile. Yes it does MMS now thanks to the 3.0 software. Before? Not so much. Not without swirlyMMS - and I don't exactly count requiring 3rd party apps to get MMS as Apple "supporting" MMS on the iPhone.

So again, place blame where it's due. Blame ATT for their horrible 3g call quality, dropped calls, and poor data in the bigger cities, but the inability to do MMS was APPLE's creation, and the lack of support now is *mostly* thanks to Apple's original lack of support. The iPhone's lack of support of a decade-old technology required ATT to use a different system for receiving MMS, and now iPhone fankids are blaming ATT because it's taking a few months longer to reconfigure those settings.

You kids were obviously happy with the first 2 years of not having that basic feature - why so pissy about an extra few months?
This is so true. Apple fanbois is try to defend Steve at all costs.

Apple didn't install the MMS software until 3.0.

It is BOTH AT&T's and APPLE's FAULT.
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Gbcue
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said by detfan:

I am no Apple fan. You seriously cannot be this blind!!!
MMS is all on AT&T, AT&T did not get 2rd party software to work..Its a hack from someone other then AT&T and you cannot even get it unless you jailbreak your phone. it also does not work very well (FOR AT&T USers) at all and mostly not for very long because they end of making it not work. You have no idea what your talking about. Stop hating, go try one before actinkg like you do.
What are you talking about?

MMS is *not* all AT&T. Apple didn't have the capability to do MMS from iPhone 1.0.

What is a hack? MMS? Why do all other phones have MMS then?

You have no idea what you're talking about.

APPLE & AT&T are BOTH to blame!
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said by detfan:

I am no Apple fan. You seriously cannot be this blind!!!
MMS is all on AT&T, AT&T did not get 2rd party software to work..Its a hack from someone other then AT&T and you cannot even get it unless you jailbreak your phone. it also does not work very well (FOR AT&T USers) at all and mostly not for very long because they end of making it not work. You have no idea what your talking about. Stop hating, go try one before actinkg like you do.
right so i'm going to repost the "more informative" part of my removed posts:

ATT has no affiliation with SwirlyMMS. That's not what i'm talking about when I say they had to work around Apple's lack of MMS support.

I was referring to the website that ATT directs your received MMS messages to for viewing. Since it's not supported on the phone, I labeled it "3rd party". I guess it's technically "2nd" party, since ATT set it up as a service to its customers who couldn't receive MMS thanks to Apple's lack of support. This still didn't allow for sending MMS in any official means, of course. Why? Because the OS didn't support sending MMS.

I'm well aware of Apple's lack of official support of MMS until 3.0, considering my own ownership of an iPhone that i'm using on T-Mobile. This is something i've alread posted in this thread.
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ATT Hopefully Crashes & Burns on Friday

I hope to cut that ATT experiences a complete outage on Friday, so there is no doubt who has the worst network. Also, everybody should return their iphones and get itouches with verizon or sprint mifi connections. That should give the message to Apple that we want choice.

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Re: Apple - King of Media

You need to seriously seek help for the anger problem you have.. AND for the fact that you're sitting here trying to make Windows out to be gold while throwing daggers at everyone else over their choice or desire of software and hardware.


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So it WAS Apple, because if you jailbraked your phone, you could send MMS messages using AT&T, but the "Untouched" software for the Iphone didn't support that and there wasn't "an App for that". You actually had to go the not so "Legit" way, against Apple's Biblical Teachings and sin by Jailbraking your phone.


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said by Bandido :

So it WAS Apple, because if you jailbraked your phone, you could send MMS messages using AT&T, but the "Untouched" software for the Iphone didn't support that and there wasn't "an App for that". You actually had to go the not so "Legit" way, against Apple's Biblical Teachings and sin by Jailbraking your phone.
There we go.
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said by fiberguy:

You need to seriously seek help for the anger problem you have.. AND for the fact that you're sitting here trying to make Windows out to be gold while throwing daggers at everyone else over their choice or desire of software and hardware.
You are hilarious. I present facts, you whine, and it's obviously due to me bashing your Apple. I didn't know which version of Nahelem was running on the Mac Pro, but it doesn't matter since Xeon and X7 are BOTH the same type of chip, only one is for desktops and one for servers.


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said by Bandido :

So it WAS Apple, because if you jailbraked your phone, you could send MMS messages using AT&T, but the "Untouched" software for the Iphone didn't support that and there wasn't "an App for that". You actually had to go the not so "Legit" way, against Apple's Biblical Teachings and sin by Jailbraking your phone.
Funny how 3rd party hacks are better use for people then 'the king of medias' regular software...

King of media... Those Apple fanboys need to try using other stuff before making such idiotic remarks.

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iPhone MMS

It will be nice if the MMS does roll out on Friday. I recently switched to the iPhone 3GS from a Samsung Blackjack II and I have been impressed by the iPhone. I was paying the same for service so I figured I would go with the iPhone since I was due for an upgrade.

It does suck at the moment not to be able to take a picture and send it to a friend but I can email the photo pretty quick from the phone so that is a plus.

I just hope the network doesn't grind to a halt with everyone with an iPhone testing out the MMS capability on Friday!
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Re: Apple - King of Media

You're so caught up in apple bashing you have no idea what you're even talking about...

For one, I have 20 Windows machines, 6 of them are servers.. I have one iPhone, and one Mac Book Pro.. so I guess I'm an apple fanboy..

Seriously.. time to grow up.


Metatron2008
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said by fiberguy:

You're so caught up in apple bashing you have no idea what you're even talking about...

For one, I have 20 Windows machines, 6 of them are servers.. I have one iPhone, and one Mac Book Pro.. so I guess I'm an apple fanboy..

Seriously.. time to grow up.
Grow up? I've had the grown up discussion sad to say.

You Apple fanboys have ranted about them being the 'king of media'. The only real examples you gave were them being the best sellers of the dying music industry, and selling devices.

Lets understand some things. First, yes, the music industry IS DYING. Every year the music industry takes in less money. The movie and gaming industries at this point are far larger, and while Itunes sells these products, it certainly doesn't lead in sells.

If you honestly think that Apple is the 'king of media', you are an Apple fanboy, no matter how many windows machines you have.


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It's Friday

Anybody have extreme network failure yet?


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said by Gbcue:

Anybody have extreme network failure yet?
no one can get on bbr to complain.
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»[iPhone] It's 9/25 did you get MMS yet?
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