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Comments on news posted 2009-10-01 11:00:51: According to the latest information from the cable industry, just 443,000 American consumers are using CableCARDs, designed to allow users to break free of the obligation of using a rented cable (or phone) industry TV set top box. ..

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ARGONAUT
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MediaCenter

CETON Multi-Tuner CableCard Being Previewed at CEDIA

The Ceton Multi-Channel Cable TV Card will be the first-of-its-kind solution for enabling advanced cable TV services natively on Media Center (i.e. first multi-tuner CableCard tuner) It supports playing or recording up to 6 HD cable TV channels simultaneously, including premium channels, without the need for any cable set-top boxes. It also enables secure distribution of all TV programming, including live and recorded shows as well as premium and encrypted channels, to additional TV sets in the home via Media Center extenders.
»www.geektonic.com/2009/09/multi-···for.html

Looks interesting.
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Joe12345678

join:2003-07-22
Des Plaines, IL

Re: MediaCenter

can it do SDV and VOD?

just wait for the cable co to hit you with SDV tunner rent fees and each one can only do 2 tuners so you will need 3 + cable card rent + cable card HD fee.

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Re: MediaCenter

It can do SDV with a Tuning resolver. You'll need 2 to 3 if you use the Ceton with a Cisco TA. No it can't do cableco VOD. Motorola TA's can resolve more than 2 streams. You can resolve up to 6 streams with a Moto one.
jjeffeory

join:2002-12-04
USA

I'd buy it. I have several freinds who use it.

It's not available to me ( U-Verse ), also the one's I've seen aren't 2way and do not work for all the channels. Also, cable companies still charge for this.
axus

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What are the benefits of cable cards?

So, the point is to receive cable TV without a cable box? I guess that would be used for processing the signal on an open platform, and automated channel changing, "on demand" ordering, things like that.

It seems like something for the more advanced user, something useless by itself that enables other cool things. It could be problematic if it fixes a standard set of operations that become obsolete in a few years. If it's expandable, you'll probably end up with conflicting features from different providers, which is what the system set out to avoid.

Ultimately, it seems like a bad idea because it's requiring the company to do something. Requirements are better used to forbid bad things. What is the history of the cable card? Was it a reaction to some monopoly abuse? In that case it makes sense. I don't believe in mandating things until after it's clear they are necessary.
Ope

join:2001-02-11
Richmond, VA

Cable Cards used with Tivo in VA

Hey,
Just wanted to say I use a HD Tivo with a dual turner....
Though... Comcast did NOT make it easy to get....
It works Flawless!

MemphisPCGuy
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SA 8350

Comcast replced my older SA 8300HD with a SA 8350HDC which actually uses a cable-card if Im not mistaken?

My last TV had a card slot, there were no cards. My latest TV has no card slot and there are cards. Things that make you go hmmmm
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Faz

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why not?

Here is my chat log with comcast live chat online (Don't see why you can't drop it in any device that accepts a cable card):

chat id : xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Problem : CableCard details
faz > CableCard details
Jonah Grace.33936 > Hello faz, Thank you for contacting Comcast Live Chat Support. My name is Jonah Grace.33936. Please give me one moment to review your information.
Jonah Grace.33936 > I will be happy to assist you with your questions. By the way, I hope you are doing well today.
Jonah Grace.33936 > Hi, faz.
faz > so my question today is about Cable Cards
faz > i currently only have cable internet service
Jonah Grace.33936 > I can perfectly understand you chatted in today because you want to have general information regarding cable Card.
faz > i am considering cable TV
Jonah Grace.33936 > Thank you for that information.
faz > and i wanted to learn more about the cablecard service you offer
Jonah Grace.33936 > faz, i will be more than willing to provide information you needed today.
Jonah Grace.33936 > faz, let us resolve your issue one at a time.
faz > so the cable card is soemthing i would rent from Comcast correct (instead of the full cable box)
faz > let's start with the cable card then
Jonah Grace.33936 > First, the cable card. Cable cards can be used as a replacement to set top box and it can be use with HD TV set only.
Jonah Grace.33936 > First S- stream cable card cost $0.00 rental fee.
Jonah Grace.33936 > Second, S-stream cable card cost $1.79/ month.
faz > does the cable card go into the TV directly (meaning i need a special TV) and/or can i purchase my own cable box and use the cable crd in my own hardware?
Jonah Grace.33936 > Cable cards should be and must be hooked up by Comcast professional technicians only.
Jonah Grace.33936 > Installtion cost varies from market to market. It is usually around $25.00-$27.00.
faz > k
faz > how much for a M-stream card?
Jonah Grace.33936 > First, M-Stream cable card cost $2.00/ month.
Jonah Grace.33936 > Secound, M-stream cable card cost $4.00/month.
Jonah Grace.33936 > Cable cards can not access On Demand channel, PPV and Interactive program guide.
faz > where can i find a list of hardware which will accept your cable cards (or specs for your cable card slot requirements)?
faz > that's fine... i never really use those services
Jonah Grace.33936 > For hardware, are you referring to retailers where you could purchaser Cable Cards?
faz > no... more like manfacturers who make devices which will accept a comcast cable card.
faz > currently i have no TV at home...
Jonah Grace.33936 > faz, any brand of HD TV set is compatible with a cable card.
faz > if i want to make purchases of hardware in the near futre... what does my hardware need to support
faz > i see...
Jonah Grace.33936 > faz, Tivo DVR could work with cable card.
faz > what about this TV: »www.samsung.com/us/consumer/tv-v···tab=spec
faz > UN55B8500 55" 1080P LED HDTV
Jonah Grace.33936 > Yes, it could work with Cable Card, faz because if you will check on the unit it has a cable card slot at its back.
faz > i was wondering about that... i don't see anything inthe specs for a cable card slot???
Jonah Grace.33936 > For more information about Samsung TV set, please contact its manufacturer.
faz > i see... i was just surprised by your answer that you seemed certain it did support it. but now you are shifting me to the manufacturer
faz > i was wondering if you were guessing that this supports a cable card because it is an HD TV
faz > or if you saw something in the specs
faz > if you did see soemthing... it's okay to point it out
Jonah Grace.33936 > I understand that, faz. I studied the TV set. The card slot is at its side.
faz > if not.. then it's okay... just say your not sure if this supports a cable card
faz > i see
faz > okay... thank you... what is the availablity of the cable cards in my area?
Jonah Grace.33936 > If it has USB connector then definitely has a slot for cable card.
faz > that is my last question
faz > i see... that makes sense. i'll check it out at my local best buy
Jonah Grace.33936 > Alright.
Jonah Grace.33936 > Cable cards are available at any market where runs by Comcast.
faz > awesome... thank you for all the help Jonah Once i get a TV i'll i'm going to try out this cable card thing
Jonah Grace.33936 > Hooray!
Heated Man

join:2009-06-18
Cleveland, OH

Who care cable cards suck

They suck. Tried them and that is all I have to say they suck. I will stick with the cable box. There is nothing wrong with it. They work fine. So what if I have a ugly cable box. That is the way it is. Live with it. Next thing you know everyone will want there toaster integrated into their frig. Come on people is it that big of a deal??

fifty nine

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Sussex, NJ
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Re: Who care cable cards suck

said by Heated Man:

They suck. Tried them and that is all I have to say they suck. I will stick with the cable box. There is nothing wrong with it. They work fine. So what if I have a ugly cable box. That is the way it is. Live with it. Next thing you know everyone will want there toaster integrated into their frig. Come on people is it that big of a deal??
Yes, it IS that big of a deal because cable boxes on a whole suck!

I'll put my TiVo against a crappy cable box any day and the tivo will always win.
Heated Man

join:2009-06-18
Cleveland, OH

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Re: Who care cable cards suck

TIVO sucks. Why should I pay some third party company for stuff that my cable box already does. And oh yeah when your TIVO takes a crap guess what time to shell out more money. No thanks you can have your TIVO and lose. Cause my cable box will always win. Guess what I get free upgrades when a new cable box comes out while you are still whimpering and drooling over the next model TIVO that will break your wallet.

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Re: Who care cable cards suck

Yep, and you only pay about $5 more than you would for a Tivo. It's always better to have an inferior product for more money because it's easier.
Heated Man

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Cleveland, OH

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Re: Who care cable cards suck

Has nothing to do with being easier and inferior. I get free upgrades when a new cable box comes out. What do you get? A bill for more money to buy that series 4 box. You can have your TIVO and suffer why I get the best of the best. When my box breaks which has never been in my case then guess what I get to go get a new one for free. When yours breaks get out your wallet.

Ok if I get a TIVO it is $12.95 per month with a one year commitment. No thanks you are not tying me down. TiVo HD XL DVR is $600. How long would it last. Lets give it the benefit of the doubt and say three years I would most likely want the new model by then anyway. So it is $12.95 per month for the subscription then if you divide the $600 by three years it would be another $16.67 per month. That is almost $30 per month total I would be paying for the box and the service which is $1066.32. For my cable box it is $7.99 plus $8.95 per month DVR service over three years would be $609.84. Simple first grade math here folks. You can keep your TIVO I will keep my cable box and smile.

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Re: Who care cable cards suck

said by Heated Man:

Has nothing to do with being easier and inferior. I get free upgrades when a new cable box comes out. What do you get? A bill for more money to buy that series 4 box. You can have your TIVO and suffer why I get the best of the best. When my box breaks which has never been in my case then guess what I get to go get a new one for free. When yours breaks get out your wallet.

Ok if I get a TIVO it is $12.95 per month with a one year commitment. No thanks you are not tying me down. TiVo HD XL DVR is $600. How long would it last. Lets give it the benefit of the doubt and say three years I would most likely want the new model by then anyway. So it is $12.95 per month for the subscription then if you divide the $600 by three years it would be another $16.67 per month. That is almost $30 per month total I would be paying for the box and the service which is $1066.32. For my cable box it is $7.99 plus $8.95 per month DVR service over three years would be $609.84. Simple first grade math here folks. You can keep your TIVO I will keep my cable box and smile.
My nine TiVos have either Lifetime service, which cost me $299 or I pay a monthly fee of $6.95. And I have one Series 3 tiVo that I paid $299 upfront for three years of service, back when they had stopped offering Lifetime service. When that runs out in december i will probably sell the box(upgraded to 1TB) for $300 to $400(more if I'm lucky). Although it did cost me around $600 initially in december 2006. But I've more than received my moneys worth during the last three years.

If the FIOS or Comcast offerred me free service and STBs for the rest of my life i wouldn't take it. The TiVo is a much better solution than what they offer. I would rather pay for my TiVos than get lifetime free service and boxes.
Heated Man

join:2009-06-18
Cleveland, OH

Re: Who care cable cards suck

You can keep your TIVOS I will keep my cable boxes. We are all happy.

rv65
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Linux CableCard

Will most likely never happen so get over it. At least not an open source implementation. The best Linux DVR you can buy right now is a Tivo and that uses a cablecard. Linux HTPC software developers aren't interested so yeah.
chuckkk

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Cable Cards etc

A recent trip to the local big box stores showed that
Virtually none of the digital tvs in stock had cable card slots.
No tuners were for sale that accepted cable cards.
No multichannel tuners were on the shelf.
No means of recording cable channels other than the "set top box" was available. An exception was to change the settings on the set top boxes to output low resolution composite video. (Assuming the cable company hasn't disabled this feature.)

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