said by gigahurtz:They will end "Friends & Faves" options. Or, eventually they will charge more for data. The pipe has to be paid for, no matter what Google wants.
This is just now coming out? Anyone who has GV has known this for a long time. Wireless carriers are figuring out ways around this already.
Or they can do what Sprint did. Make GV irrelevant. 90% or more of my monthly phone calls are to cellphones. Sprint charges no minutes against mobile-to-mobile calls no matter the carrier calling or being called if you have a data plan on your smartphone. I have a GV account but it is not needed. So Sprint gets it's pipe paid for by users having a data plan and voice calls ride on that income for free.
said by FFH:I foresee rate increases. Also, the "Friends & Faves" options from the players that I've looked at already require you to pay up to receive the option in the first place. Paying up for more minutes to facilitate "free unlimited calling" kinds of minimizes/eliminates the benefit IMO.
Or, eventually they will charge more for data. The pipe has to be paid for, no matter what Google wants.
the study, conducted by the auditing firm TeleTruth on behalf of the Utility Consumers' Action Network and showing an average charge of $3.02 per minute, was based on 134 wireless bills.I'd need to look at the report before this claim can be taken seriously. Anyway, I don't look at my wireless phone bill as paying $x/min, I look at it as paying $y/mth for the convenience of always having a voice capability with me.
| |cdruGo ColtsPremium,MVM
Fort Wayne, IN
said by openbox9:Take it for what it's worth. I'm not saying the methodology is right or wrong, I'm just pointing to where the $3/minute came from.
I'd need to look at the report before this claim can be taken seriously.
Anyway, I don't look at my wireless phone bill as paying $x/min, I look at it as paying $y/mth for the convenience of always having a voice capability with me.For many users that don't use it as a primary line and rather just a backup or while they are out type usage, prepaid may be far more economical as you still have the convenience of having the capability (as long as the minutes are there) but you aren't losing unused minutes at the end of the month. T-mobile for instance has rates as low as $.10 per minute which is only slightly higher then many of their monthly plans but the minutes don't expire for a year, or even longer if you top off within that year with additional funds.
said by cdru:Prepaid plan no longer offered by Verizon but grandfathered if you have it but don't change it, has a $15/mo. minimum bump (100 minutes), but unused minutes rollover, as long as you continue to renew. My wife's cellphone has 58+ hours primetime minutes accumulated. Double on nights and weekends.
prepaid may be far more economical as you still have the convenience of having the capability (as long as the minutes are there) but you aren't losing unused minutes at the end of the month.
The trouble with drawing the minutes down -- you gotta answer the phone when somebody calls.
She uses it for emergency only.
The trouble with that $3/minute study mentioned earlier is it probably takes the monthly fee and divides it by the minutes actually used to come up with minutes cost. Which says a lot of people have plans they don't fully use.
"But I can make a call if I want to."
| |williamray507No More Mr Nice GuyPremium
said by TamaraB:The "official" Google Voice App by Google never got approved. There were several Apps made by others that were approved GV Mobile being one of them by Sean Kovacs. It is now avaliable for jailbroken users for free on Cydia.
Yes seriously. It was originally approved, and available for free download on the App Store. Then it was taken down and banned. I happened to get it while it was available. So, Apple is discriminating against those who were not fortunate enough to get it before the ban.
EDIT: The File date on my GV Mobile.ipa is 7/7/2009 That must be the day I downloaded it. My iPhone is Not Jailbroken YET!
"I think I see the light at the end of the tunnel, Oh wait it's the train"
Still a PITA Don't get it. I barely use my minutes now so why do I care if I get free minutes?
Then there's the way to do it that makes it a PITA
1. Call google from my phone
2. Press 2 to make a call
3. Type in the number
vs calling from the cell
1. Find # in speed dial and hit call
No thanks. It's still a PITA No matter what the blog dolts tell you.
It is a paradigm shift Pre-internet, voice was the data content. And those that carried voice got the bucks. The telcos are used to that model and made a ton of money on it.
Today, voice is simply data packets. The big winners will be those that provide data, in whatever format, that people want. Those that simply move data around as a service will play second fiddle.
The telcos offer nothing in the way of data content that people want or need. Absolutely nothing. Nada, zilch, zip. ATT is in no way shape or form in the same league with google maps, expedia, netflix, yahoo, etc.
And so we hear the exo-flood nonsense from so-called analysts that seem to have suffered the effects of too much peroxide. Or have been paid off.
| |nixenRockin' the BoxenPremium
Historically, When Did Telcos Become "Content Providers"? Back in the pre-Internet land-rush days, weren't the telcos just "dump pipes" for voice. What "content" did they really offer. I mean, the old "time & temperature) was a free service. 411 (etc.) were either free or things to be avoided. Neither would I terribly much call "content". And, definitely, the calls between myself and friends, family and work were not "content".
Judging by the hopeless excuses for content telcos have offered up over the years, they STILL are only good at one thing: managing pipes. Perhaps people would be interested in them being more than pipes if they ever actually provided worthwhile content. The reason people don't want them for anything but pipes is because they're no good at content.
Seriously. Listen up telcos: be happy to be earning money from your damned pipes. If you were to provide actual content of value, rather than obstruction of valuable content, people would buy it from you. Go back to what you're good at doing: running networks.
The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. -- Bertrand Russell