 divefox
join:2005-08-15
Huntsville, AL | Those fellas at the freakin' FCC I hope the FCC shoves their foot up AT&T's rear end. "Pick one: Net Neutrality or Fair Billing."
Hah, not in this lifetime. |
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1 edit | hmm Well, in light of this, I suggest those people that take issue with this decision find another carrier. |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 | Verizon requires data plans on anything but dumb-phones now. Sprint requires a data plan on thier smartphones. T-Mobile requires a data plan on smartphones. |
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 LinklistPremium
join:2002-03-03
Longport, NJ
kudos:5 | Question? - for subsidized smartphones or all smartphones Do these rules apply to all smartphones - even those bought at full price and not part of a subsidized 2 yr plan?
For subsidized smartphones I can see the telcos point of requiring a data plan. But if you went and bought an unsubsidized smartphone somewhere for $800, I think you should be able to buy whatever services you want at a la carte rates. |
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Re: hmm You can find a smaller carrier that doesn't force the data option, or you can get a different phone.
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Yes, so many choices.  |
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 b1gdr3I Blame Your Mother
join:2001-07-28
York, PA | I have an iPhone... and I don't appreciate that text messaging isn't included in this mandatory $30 data plan. It's not like it's costing ATT loads to process these messages.
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 KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK | Market fail. Regulation is only way When there simply isn't enough competition to provide consumers with choices they want to make, it's only fair to come in and control the carriers via Government regulations.
And they have only themselves to blame. Abuse and false claims of "The market will self regulate" leads itself to the outcome the carriers least want. Greed is not good. Not for consumers, and not for the long term profitability of the carriers.
I will not cry for them one bit.
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KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK | reply to Linklist
Re: Question? - for subsidized smartphones or all smartphones Looks like all Smartphones, period. |
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Re: hmm Clearly. |
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I already switched my phone service to a little juke and purchased an ipod touch for the wifi... I even blocked my data so i dont get mb charges just to look at the verizon online store!!! Never had a problem with verizon service or customer service but not staying when contract over. |
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Re: Question? - for subsidized smartphones or all smartphones An AT&T person told me I can cancel the data plan at any time since I'm grandfathered in, but if I were to signup with it again I'd be forced into keeping it "FOREVER". I said what if I "Downgrade" to a dumb phone (wink wink). I could then cancel the plan? She said, "Yes". I said I can then put my SIM back in my smartphone, and be without data. She said, "Well, I guess you could do that".
This seems so ridiculous. I can understand why they would force someone who is buying a subsidized phone, but it doesn't make sense to force someone into a service that brings their own equipment. The AT&T person said they do it for my protection to avoid the accidental high fees of pay per use. Again that is stupid, because if that was true they would just opt people out of data instead. |
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 DaveDudeNo Fear
join:1999-09-01
New Jersey
kudos:1 | Could i not have a voice plan ? If this is mandatory, couldn't i just use Google voice, or whoever, and not have voice plan ? |
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 IT GuyOw, My BallsPremium
join:2004-07-29
Las Cruces, NM
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Re: hmm said by iansltx:T-Mobile requires a data plan on smartphones. That's not exactly true. I had bought a G1 off of eBay and while I was required to use T-mobile's data network to register my device with Google's server, the G1 support tech. told me I was not required to have a data plan, although it was recommended since many of the functions of the phone relied to some extent on having a data plan to update and if an update caused my phone to request that I register the phone to Google's provisioning server, I would have to call into T-Mo's G1 support dept. and have them temporarily add my phone to the data plan again. Regardless, I shelled out the extra cash for the plan, but in retrospect and after several factors including my data usage being very low vs. my Wifi usage and being stuck on EDGE with no idea when 3g will be available in my area, I'm having second thoughts about shelling out that extra money every month that could be better spent on other bills..
Edit: This was back in March, so I know it's quite possible that policy has changed.
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nonymousPremium
join:2003-09-08
Glendale, AZ Reviews:
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1 edit | Yep, and $30 is only the start For $30 you get almost no data then a per unit charge for any overages. So do anything besides read a few emails and the $30 easily turns into more. Think of the CEOs golden parachute. The USA is only number one in overpaying money grubbing CEOs with no real ideas except how to make their paychecks bigger. |
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1 edit | hmm If they still offered al la carte services, i'm sure we'd hear 'oh these overages are such bs! it should be free'
At some point, you have to decide whether or not the service they provide is worth the money they are asking for. If it's not worth it to everyone, then everyone would call up and cancel
Obviously, Apple is enjoying record stock prices and iPhone sales, I don't see many people doing that. |
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Mr Matt
join:2008-01-29
Eustis, FL
kudos:1 Reviews:
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| Did wireless providers management contract the Swine Flu?  Did the upper management of the wireless service providers contracted the Swine Flu or did some other force turn them into pigs? I wonder if the wireless service providers will refund the purchase price of smart phones to those customers that purchased smart phones and do not want to have the cost of wireless data plans shoved up their butts. It looks like a change in terms of service to me. |
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3 edits | I wouldn't count on it, those who purchased a subsidized phone also signed a contract that basically let's AT&T do whatever they want.
I have 2 iPhones, so i'm at nearly $150 + a month.
If I go to any other large provider and nearly any other smartphone, it's the same price.
I'll ride my contract out another 4 months and go with a smaller, local company that offers basic service and keep my wifi. |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 | reply to longstreet
Re: hmm I need a national carrier (school is 900 mi away from home) and want a carrier that has a decent network. |
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