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Comments on news posted 2009-11-04 14:37:20: As cable companies have been trying to compete with FiOS and municipal fiber builds, one of their favorite tactics has been advertisements that intentionally distort the difference between core and last-mile fiber. ..
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 smitmor
join:2004-04-10
Springhill, LA | Hey, just be glad you can get either technology. Where I live, the cable co advertises their fastest tier as 5/1, with a 60 GB cap for $80/mo... though the best I've ever achieved is around 2 mbit down.
The phone company (CenturyTel) advertises "up to 15 mbit" DSL, but you have to be within spitting distance of the CO. My house is pretty darn close to the CO but the best I can achieve is 6 mbit, and the max upload is 768k. CenturyTel is also guilty of marketing DSL as fiber. See thier "Fiber vs. Cable" ad here. But I'm one of the lucky ones. On the edges of town they have deployed remote nodes, but they didn't bother to feed them with fiber. The subscribers that are fed off the remote nodes are capped at 1.5/256 no matter how close they are to the RT. | |
|  buckinghamBuckingham Pa
join:2005-07-17
Buckingham, PA
 ·Verizon FiOS
| Ultimately, it's not just about Internet Almost all of the discussion has been around Internet access speeds in both directions. FTTH, however, isn't just about Internet speed, it's also about content delivery...with little or no compression...and enough bandwidth over a single fiber to easily handle multiple HD streams without affecting performance of other communications occurring concurrently. That's where the current "cable company" technology has less appeal and since content delivery is the cash cow that funds the networks, deployments like Verizon's FiOS, however imperfect it may be from a "where" standpoint, shines. They are finally working on my road "as we speak" and I can't wait to have FTTH, both for its excellent Internet performance in both directions, but for its ability to deliver superior HD content. I bagged Comcast for DirectTV over a year ago because of the HD quality and look forward to even better performance with FiOS. | |
| | | | Re: Ultimately, it's not just about Internet We have an amplifier, and we still get "poor signal" or "no signal" or "channel will be available shortly" on comcast. You'd think they could fix an issue vs letting it get WORSE over 10 years... *shrug*
Going with fios tv asap.
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bemis
join:2008-07-18
Reading, MA Reviews:
·Verizon FiOS
 ·Verizon Online DSL
| It's not just Joe Six pack that is too stupid... "Marketing folk assume that since the public is probably too stupid to understand the difference, they can take some of the shine off of fiber to the home by pretending all fiber is created equal"
...and those marketing folk are EXACTLY right.
I work for a hardware/software development company, except for the admin staff, everyone here is an "engineer"... granted, we're not all specialists in everything, but you would THINK that everyone titled engineer ought to understand the difference between COAX to your house and FIBER to your house.
Having a conversation w/ a couple of guys the other day I actually had to draw them a f*cking picture to help them understand the fact that what Comcast offers is NOT equal to fiber to your house.
So what caused the blur?
--The fact that Verizon FIOS uses MoCA to distribute signals within your house to the router and STB's.
So these guys I was talking with were saying "Comcast is the 'same', except the coax comes from the street instead of an ONT on your house" ...
So, I'll admit that maybe one day that will be true, and Comcast will offer everyone their very own dedicated piece of coax, but that is NOT how it works today. They didn't understand that you have multiple households sharing that piece of coax AND it uses completely different methods for data transfer (MoCA vs. DOCSIS 2.0 / 3.0).
What usually wins the argument is bringing up upload speed... I've got 15Mb/s w/ my FIOS ... what do you have w/ your Comcast? Yeah, there's a key difference 
Hey--you ever had an OnDemand request fail? Yep, there's another difference--there are only have so many channels available on that piece of coax and if they're all taken you don't get to watch your vod. | |
|  MidakDoctors suckPremium
join:2002-02-26
Yonkers, NY | One thing Cablevision can do that Verizon has yet to try... As much as I tried, FiOS would not throttle my speeds no matter how much I abused them. They did not send me accusatory letters claiming I was sharing copyrighted materials, which I of course wasn't. They have yet to shut my service down based on a post I made on this forum (true story -Cablevison security jackass read it word for word how I was getting around the throttling of my modem by trading it in at The Wiz way back when - dslr owner denied taking part and I believe him.) I remember asking a Verizon rep what would happen if I wanted to upload 10GB of home movies to a friend. Their answer was, "it will upload much faster than it would on Cablevision." Cablevision's response to same questioning is that they could not say but if I hit the invisible cap again, I would have my account suspended.
I'm on 25/15 and I have no needs or wants for faster since I actually get my advertised speeds, which NEVER happened for me on Cablevision. FTTH FTMFW!!@! | |
| eDon
join:2007-06-01
Hauppauge, NY | Cablevision claimed that Verizon runs on their fiber I had a door-to-door Cablevision salesman tell me that Verizon used Cablevision's fiber. While it is true that Verizon may lease "dark fiber" from many sources, the claim was bogus and I called the salesman out on it - he backed off right away.
BTW, I was born before 1950 and know the difference.
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Don | |
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