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Comments on news posted 2009-11-13 11:11:51: AT&T and Verizon's fight over 3G coverage maps just keeps rolling along, with Verizon recently running new ads that mock AT&T's wireless network, and AT&T lawyers working very hard yesterday to get those advertisements pulled by the courts. ..

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glinc

join:2009-04-07
New York, NY

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lol

"As the U.S. market leader in wireless data service, we typically don't respond to competitors' advertising,"

HAHAHAHAHA! are they out of their mind??? Throw some cash into network improvement and then that statement might be right. They're just milking all they can their customers and keeping the cash in their bank accounts.

I really didn't know how slow EDGE was until I traveled to another country last week and used my Tour on EDGE....that was slowwwww as hell.

There is really no misleading in those ads, AT&T advertise "fastest 3G" and all those 3G ads, Verizon its just advertising the truth about 3G ads.


Z80
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You no speaky English?

said by AT&T hack :
give the false impression that AT&T doesn't offer service outside of their 3G footprint.
Uh, no, in TITANIC LETTERS it says 3G coverage. And the new ads clearly state that service is available outside AT&T's 3G service area.

STFU and quit whining. If they put 1/2 as much effort into deploying 3G as they do pissing and moaning, maybe their coverage wouldn't be so limited.


r81984
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reply to glinc

Re: lol

US market leader would mean subscribers. Maybe they have more people with data plans than Verizon?
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r81984
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Re: You no speaky Enlish?

American's are stupid. They see a colorful map and can't read. Verizon knew exactly what they were doing.

"given the debate has simply managed to push the ads (and AT&T's recent network issues) further into the spotlight"
Regarding this, I think they did what they wanted which was to get the word out that they have more coverage than what the 3G maps shows.
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MRCUR

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Exactly! After I complained on Twitter AT&T said come join the "conversation" on Facebook. I posted a comment on their wall and they came back saying VZW's ads are "misleading", "blatantly false", and "misleading". They're arguing VZW is making it seem as though the iPhone users/AT&T customers in the commercials act like they can't use their phones...

So I went to YouTube and watched the commercial again. Guess what, I still think VZW is being COMPLETELY CLEAR that they're talking about 3G (and only data at that).

MRCUR

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Are you saying AT&T wants to make sure everyone knows they have more 3G coverage than what their map shows?

I really hope not since that map is accurate. Not only does AT&T have far less 3G coverage than VZW, but a lot of places the 3G doesn't even work! My 3GS flips back and forth between five bars of 3G and EDGE all day long.


Frank_IT
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Loll

Also...

quote:
"The EDGE network -- that as you know lets customers do all of the same things that they do in 3G areas -- apart from a difference in speed
Hmm... are they really sure? With 3G.. can't we talk and use data at the same time?

and.. on EGDE.. we can't do that!!
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MRCUR

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Ha, you make an excellent point. AT&T is really pushing the simultaneous voice & data with 3G too.


r81984
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Re: You no speaky Enlish?

They want everyone to know they have way more Voice and Data coverage than that 3G map.

If American's were not stupid and understood what 3G is then this would not have been an issue, but ATT knows that Americans are stupid.

ATT is definately justified with ensuring that everyone understands they have more coverage than that map.
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burgerwars

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Throwing Dirt at Each Other

It's pointless for each company to complain about each other. If AT&T is so bothered by Verizon's ads, then they should do their own. Since almost all of Verizon's phones only work on CDMA, why doesn't AT&T show a map where their phones work all over the globe and Verizon's don't, then claim that Verizon's phones can only be used as "Doorstops in Denmark" (or "Paperweights in Portugal"). They'll probably win that war.
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dib22

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if they keep repeating it... it will become true.

geeze... how much clearer can the verizon ads be.

i know NO ONE who thinks it says there is no at&t coverage in those areas... it simply means the areas in white have no 3g... in fact the areas in white only have the painfully slow edge service, no voice+data, and totally broken voice encryption

seriously do they think if they keep saying it over and over it will be true? please at&t if you have any sanity left drop it and hope it goes away.


Z80
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Re: You no speaky Enlish?

They read just fine. AT&T is just pissed that VZW is pointing it out to them.


R4M0N
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Re: Throwing Dirt at Each Other

said by burgerwars:

...Since almost all of Verizon's phones only work on CDMA, why doesn't AT&T show a map where their phones work all over the globe and Verizon's don't, then claim that Verizon's phones can only be used as "Doorstops in Denmark." They'll probably win that war.
You are a genius...


Selenia
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Re: Loll

said by Frank_IT:

Also...

quote:
"The EDGE network -- that as you know lets customers do all of the same things that they do in 3G areas -- apart from a difference in speed
Hmm... are they really sure? With 3G.. can't we talk and use data at the same time?

and.. on EGDE.. we can't do that!!
You can't do that on VZW at all. Their EVDO does not support it. Some phones can hang up the data connection for a call. Big deal, who wants to have their download interrupted as opposed to just grabbing the message and calling someone back when it's finished?


Bill Neilson
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Just shut up already, AT&T

and this comes from someone with an iPhone.....who enjoys AT&T now
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Z80
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Re: You no speaky Enlish?

Americans aren't stupid. That is why AT&T is bent that VZW is pointing out the truth about their 3G coverage.


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said by r81984:

American's are stupid. They see a colorful map and can't read. Verizon knew exactly what they were doing.

"given the debate has simply managed to push the ads (and AT&T's recent network issues) further into the spotlight"
Regarding this, I think they did what they wanted which was to get the word out that they have more coverage than what the 3G maps shows.
Or they can read but assume a 3G phone won't work outside the 3G coverage area because they don't know jack about technology. 3G is just a buzz word for the new phones to many people. I have seen many own a 3G phone but have no idea what 3G is LOL.

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Haha whatever

AT&T's network is a joke. I wonder how much of the area they claim is covered by edge is off-network and thus means you can't even use 50megs of data before they get pissed and tell you your off-network coverage has been disabled and the only way to do anything about is to end your contract. Pretty awesome if you ask me. Just for reference I live in a 3g area but when I visit family in my hometown I either have no service or can't use any data. Pure bull!

djhexer

join:2002-10-07
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what is 3G really??

my understanding is (correct me if I'm wrong

Verizon AT&T
1RxTT = GMRS
Rev0 = EDGE
RevA = 3G

when I traveled with a CDMA phone I had rev0 most of the time until I got in a heavy populated area when I had 3G

so my question is "If my map is correct isn't Rev0 not really 3G??" and should there be a map for Rev0 vs RevA?

I also thinks its funny seeing that AT&T is having a bug fit about it while T-Mobile is quietly rolling out 21+??


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reply to r81984

Re: lol

said by r81984:

US market leader would mean subscribers. Maybe they have more people with data plans than Verizon?
"Market Leader" is a widely used marketing term that has no legal bearing. If you notice in press releases, EVERY company is a "market leader". Its just a fancy way of not actually saying anything, and it sounds good so some people get confused!
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glinc

join:2009-04-07
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reply to burgerwars

Re: Throwing Dirt at Each Other

Then they would have to specify which type of phones. Because verizon have global phones also and bragging about the phones you have to work abroad is pointless, since it isn't even your company's own network. First improved your local coverage.


Bill Neilson
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reply to r81984

Re: You no speaky Enlish?

I don't think we are stupid....we just have people who refuse to accept reality and thus find all the excuses in the world to see otherwise

Ok, so maybe a little stupid then


dib22

join:2002-01-27
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reply to djhexer

Re: what is 3G really??

more like 1xrtt = edge

EVDO rev0/reva = UMTS (3g in att speak)

gworkman7

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Those are the commercials that should be taken off the air. The internet finds a way to hide from me quite often while I try to use my iPhone on a long road trip. It didn't hide from my brother who was using Sprint.


jmn1207
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reply to dib22

Re: what is 3G really??

said by dib22:

more like 1xrtt = edge

EVDO rev0/reva = UMTS (3g in att speak)
In most of my testing, 1xRTT was faster than Edge. At least that was the case a few years ago when I was using both Sprint and AT&T devices between DC and New York.

sharksfan3
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reply to Selenia

Re: You no speaky Enlish?

said by Selenia:

said by r81984:

American's are stupid. They see a colorful map and can't read. Verizon knew exactly what they were doing.

"given the debate has simply managed to push the ads (and AT&T's recent network issues) further into the spotlight"
Regarding this, I think they did what they wanted which was to get the word out that they have more coverage than what the 3G maps shows.
Or they can read but assume a 3G phone won't work outside the 3G coverage area because they don't know jack about technology. 3G is just a buzz word for the new phones to many people. I have seen many own a 3G phone but have no idea what 3G is LOL.
This is exactly the issue. The people with the "AT&T devices" in these ads are giving the vibe that their phones don't work AT ALL.

sharksfan3
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reply to dib22

Re: what is 3G really??

said by dib22:

more like 1xrtt = edge

EVDO rev0/reva = UMTS (3g in att speak)
I have never experienced 1xrtt speeds in the 200kbps range like I have with edge...