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Comments on news posted 2009-12-07 18:08:20: Verizon has launched a new website (via GigaOM) offering a little more detail on next year's LTE wireless broadband launch. ..

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Matt3
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Closer to 5Mbps?

I'm guessing the speeds will wind up closer to 5Mbps/2Mbps than 13Mbps/5Mbps?
hottboiinnc4
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Already there

we already have 30 markets via WiMax where is VZ? Still giving us bull shit and "it's coming" we'll see LTE by them in LATE 2010.

en102
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Should be competitive with...

WiMAX, HPSA+ (T-Mo/AT&T, assuming they have capacity)

I wonder if VZW will be a 'spoiler' and go and deploy this in the areas that they sold off all their landline (POTS/ADSL) to Fairpoint, and attempting to sell more to Frontier.

Sell off non-profit/dying landline, get a huge tax credit, build out a wireless equivalent (cost less to run, more demand), and make more money.... Good investment, IMO.

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Re: Already there

bill shit eh? must be how u feel after paying it.

SHABAZZ
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Re: Closer to 5Mbps?

That’s faster then their DSL in most places. So two things might happen, 1 they’re going to price this service much higher than their DSL price points or 2 they’re going to cap the service so you can’t get your moneys worth out of it. There is no why there going to come in and offer a better service then their wire line business when the DSL foot print is so much larger then their FIOS.
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Depends. WiMAX can already do 15/5 in real-world, albeit high-signal, conditions. HSPA+ can do 12/2 without a problem. You'd hope that with all the hoopla LTE would beat both, or at least match them.
hottboiinnc4
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Re: Already there

first i don't pay for VZ. I'd never use their services. They suck, support is horrible. CSRs are worse. Billing is another story.
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Re: Should be competitive with...

if it says nationwide, it will be limited to the areas they say they'll get a great ROI. The FiOS network is "nationwide" as well. But only in areas where ROI is. Will never be seen anywhere else.

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Re: Already there

i was referring to your typing mistake, bro i see u quickly corrected it
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Re: Should be competitive with...

Particularly since you can't get above about 4 Mbps even with bonded ADSL2+ Annex M for uploads. For downloads you'd have to be within about 11k feet of the CO to get 12 Mbps speeds on two-line bonded DSL. WIth LTE on 700MHz these speeds should be usable out to several miles from the transmitter, so Verizon is in a much better position with LTE than with DSL. That said, Verizon paid megabucks for the 700MHz spectrum, and LTE deployment won't exactly be cheap.

Still, I'm looking forward to WiFiOS, provided the caps are reasonable
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.

Would this at all help current devices?
glinc
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Re: Already there

mmmm after reading so many WiMax reviews, I wouldn't say people get their money worth anyways and knowing big red, they will build the network right.
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Nope, you will need new LTE devices

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Re: Closer to 5Mbps?

If they play the game right, they will use this and let their DSL die.
Chaldo
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Not bad

AT&T is probably going to keep up that year with HSPA 7.2 then release LTE but notice that the people who will have the benefit of faster 3G speeds on there phones will be AT&T/T-mobile because some phones have 7.2 chips in them and AT&T/T-Mobile are upgrading there 3G. LTE devices you wont see for a couple years now..

io chico
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So what!

None of this matters with caps attached.
MRCUR
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Nope...

Like glink said, nope. VZW is planning on continuing the use of CDMA for voice anyways.
vlad1000
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i agree

stupid greedy verizon craps....

everyone knows

CAPS are for SAPS!!!
ShellMMG
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According to the VZW LTE site...

...It appears LTE will be developed alongside their 3G/EVDO network. I have no clue as to how cell towers, backhaul, etc. actually work, but I know the location of my tower and that I get a 3G RevA signal, usually between 1.75-2.5MB down. If LTE runs parallel to 3G then I should be eligible, yes?

Then there's that damned cap thing. I don't need lightspeed downloads; I NEED at least 50G a month. There's no way cable or FIOS will ever reach me so my family is dependent on wireless. So far we've been extremely happy but a 5G cap is a deal-killer.
hottboiinnc4
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Re: Already there

i know.
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Re: According to the VZW LTE site...

that depends on if VZW sees your market worth anything. Nationwide does NOT mean they'll cover their entire foot print.
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build it right? LMAO! Compared to who? ClearWire? ClearWire's problem is inside. Everyone knows that. There are thousands of more WiMax providers that just Clear. Many small local providers. www.bnorth.net (Bright.net North). You won't find their views on this site.

Also have you heard of Tower Stream? They're a WiMax provider.

You should know you'll only hear about that bad services anyways. If someone has great service with a provider, you'll never hear about that. It's only when the service goes down or sucks and the minute it's back up, they're on twitter, if not already via cell.
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Re: Nope...

which means the Formerally Alltel Customers can keep their "tick, tick, tick" noise when the towers are trying to reach them..
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caps are for sure

isn't it obvious that there are going to be caps?
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said by hottboiinnc4:

build it right? LMAO! Compared to who? ClearWire? ClearWire's problem is inside. Everyone knows that. There are thousands of more WiMax providers that just Clear. Many small local providers. www.bnorth.net (Bright.net North). You won't find their views on this site.

Also have you heard of Tower Stream? They're a WiMax provider.

You should know you'll only hear about that bad services anyways. If someone has great service with a provider, you'll never hear about that. It's only when the service goes down or sucks and the minute it's back up, they're on twitter, if not already via cell.
There's a problem. You can have 30 small WiMax providers but it does no good if they cover 0.01% of the population and no one has heard of them.
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Re: Closer to 5Mbps?

said by iansltx:

Depends. WiMAX can already do 15/5 in real-world, albeit high-signal, conditions. HSPA+ can do 12/2 without a problem. You'd hope that with all the hoopla LTE would beat both, or at least match them.
Per user, per tower, per spectrum block?
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Re: Already there

And how many of those "WiMax" providers use mobile wimax and how many use 2.5 ghz spectrum? All those mom and pop wimax places uses equipment that runs on custom bands and fixed wimax with proprietary vendor extensions (Expedience, Canopy, etc).
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Re: According to the VZW LTE site...

said by hottboiinnc4:

that depends on if VZW sees your market worth anything. Nationwide does NOT mean they'll cover their entire foot print.
Verizon is 100% EVDO now. Verizon obviously isn't cheap on capital investment, look at ATT, their 3G never went past urban and burbs. Verizon isnt ATT.
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i dont think caps

when I think about the LTE tech, there wont be caps imo.
Clear doesnt have too.
brianiscool
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Nice

When they reach 18Mbs speed then they can start offering tv service in homes.
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