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| I simply wonder How long have cell phones been in the market? As there still isn't a clear or reproducible study that these are relatively safe?
I wonder how much is actually being repressed by the larger businesses with everything to lose in the industry? -- "If something about the human body disgusts you, complain to the manufacturer" - Lenny Bruce What this country needs is a good five dollar plasma weapon. | |
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| Re: I simply wonder said by SLD:Yes. If there is a reasonable belief that they "may" cause these things, then it is reasonable to expect the consumer to be warned. seriously? you "may" get hit by a bus today. greater chance of that happening than getting brain cancer from your cell phone. do you need a warning label for that? -- sbcglobal.net speedtest result 11/11/09 - 5256kbps | |
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Are you being informed that the phone you hold next to your head *may* give you a tumor and end your life?
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| Re: I simply wonder said by FBGuy:bah. i have a solution. just don't keep the thing stuck to the side of your head all the time. a good time not to use it is when your driving. biggest pet peeve of mine by far is people that are on their phone when they drive. i'm talking about all of them. bluetoothers included. My pet peeve too. 90% of people cannot drive and talk on cell phones at the same time, yet they think they can. It's a plague here on Long Island NY.
Put warning labels on cell phones to warn people about something that has no basis, then let them drive whilst they are yakking on their phones about nothing, half of them without seat belts on, both things are probably ten thousand times more dangerous that cell phone radiation. | |
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| Re: I simply wonder said by james:said by FBGuy:you "may" get hit by a bus today. greater chance of that happening than getting brain cancer from your cell phone. do you need a warning label for that? It might help. But where would we put the label? On the front of the bus? lol that would be a good place. i vote for as low as possible, centered on the front bumper -- sbcglobal.net speedtest result 11/11/09 - 5256kbps | |
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-labels on all gas containers and cars, cause glass burn -warnings that you can choke on food -warnings that you can drown in pools and most any body of water -more warnings on food that it may cause an allergic reaction -warning on oxygen in the air that it helps stuff to burn and breathing it may cause hyperventilation -warning that a book maybe be heavy and could hurt your foot if you drop it -warning that eating junk food and drinking soda can lead to diabetes, obesity, and all sort of 'fun' health problems
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 |  |  |  |  SLDPremium join:2002-04-17 San Francisco, CA | Re: I simply wonder We already have many of those warnings. Others you typed won't cause permanent harm to the body (dropping a book?) The last one should be properly taught or warned. | |
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| Re: I simply wonder said by FBGuy:sadly? nothing sad about it. taxes are meant to deter people from doing things. and well junk food is bad for you therefore the fat tax made sense. no way should someone who doesn't buy that stuff have to pay for the diseases that are caused by it. in other words people who make good choices shouldn't pay for the bad choices of others. Does that mean the income tax is to determe from making an income?  Hmmm... -- There are 10 types of people. Those who can read Binary and those who cannot. | |
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| said by FBGuy:sadly? nothing sad about it. taxes are meant to deter people from doing things. and well junk food is bad for you therefore the fat tax made sense. no way should someone who doesn't buy that stuff have to pay for the diseases that are caused by it. in other words people who make good choices shouldn't pay for the bad choices of others. Only way to do that is to actually ban it, extra tax does very little to deter and a lot to add money to the governments coffers. If you have an issue where you don't think there are enough taxes you can write the various government checks and give them more money, it is in your power. | |
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| Re: I simply wonder said by FBGuy:the government cannot accept donations. If I am not mistaken you can make voluntary contributions to reduce the public debt. IRS rules allow you to include the contribution (assuming you itemize) on your Federal taxes.
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| said by cornelius785:So let's apply this 'logic' (LOL) to other things: To nit pick a little the items you mention have scientific backing that under certain circumstances they are harmful. I share your concern of excessive use of warning labels - the practice has become self defeating because the average product has so many trivial ones I'm sure people miss the really important ones.
The Cell phone ban is in an entirely different league, because so far there is no evidence the RF is dangerous.
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| said by FBGuy:there is no substantial proof that cell phones cause cancer. Until there is scientific evidence Cell Phones increase cancer risk I think it is inappropriate to force manufactures to include a health warning about possible effects. That sets a dangerous precedent.
I find it curious folks are so worried about cancer risk but pretty much ignore well documented risk of using a cell phone while driving. Guess the C word is scarier then getting splattered over the highway.
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Cell Phone Industry (early 21st century): "There is no substantial proof that cell phones cause cancer."
Any questions?
And of course, most users of the aforementioned products want to believe the industry shills, because they are addicted to the products in question (although in different ways - the first is a physical addiction, the second is more psychological). | |
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| Re: I simply wonder said by cell avoider :
Tobacco Industry (20th century): "There is no substantial proof that cigarettes cause cancer."
Cell Phone Industry (early 21st century): "There is no substantial proof that cell phones cause cancer."
Any questions? You forget even though the industry stonewalled to the bitter end there was compelling scientific evidence that tobacco was linked to cancer. As far as I know there is no scientific evidence of a cancer like to cell phone use.
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| Re: I simply wonder said by tschmidt:said by cell avoider :
Tobacco Industry (20th century): "There is no substantial proof that cigarettes cause cancer."
Cell Phone Industry (early 21st century): "There is no substantial proof that cell phones cause cancer."
Any questions? You forget even though the industry stonewalled to the bitter end there was compelling scientific evidence that tobacco was linked to cancer. As far as I know there is no scientific evidence of a cancer like to cell phone use. /tom Well to be fair, this is different since cell phones are relatively new, and have not been studied with rigor.
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Tobacco Industry (20th century): "There is no substantial proof that cigarettes cause cancer."
Cell Phone Industry (early 21st century): "There is no substantial proof that cell phones cause cancer."
Any questions?
And of course, most users of the aforementioned products want to believe the industry shills, because they are addicted to the products in question (although in different ways - the first is a physical addiction, the second is more psychological). You forgot Big Federal Government (yeah the industry) (Obama edition): they excuse obscene gov't spending and deficit spending all designed to radically change the free-enterprise system that our forefathers envisioned.
The day is coming....we tithe our paycheck to th goverment and get a small stipend to live with. | |
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FFS we have stuff warning us not to use blowdryers in the shower, yet anyone with a brain knows electric and water dont mix. heck anyone that has watched more then one murder mystery and a few episodes of Mythbusters knows that. -- [65 Arcanist]Filan(High Elf) Zone: Broadband Reports | |
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| said by Mike:How long have cell phones been in the market? As there still isn't a clear or reproducible study that these are relatively safe? I wonder how much is actually being repressed by the larger businesses with everything to lose in the industry? Where they don't have proof, they'll just lie like they did with 2nd hand smoke. | |
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 |  bear73Metnav... Fly The Unfriendly SkiesPremium join:2001-06-09 Grand Forks Afb, ND | the power level is minimal and frequency is relatively low. Additionally its non-ionizing radiation. If cell phone emissions are a concern fro you, then turn your house into a Faraday Cage, cuz you get bombarded daily by satellite signals, AM/FM/TV, space-borne radiation (not all is stopped by the ionosphere), WiFi (are you on a wireless connection or a hard line?) and plenty more. Hell, your TV and microwave put out more emissions than your cellphone. just grab yourself a Network Analyzer and a broadband antenna and scan the air around you and you will be amazed how much RF you are bathed in, even if you head into the woods... -- If ya gotta go, Go with a SMILE! »www.thereligionofpeace.com/ | |
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 |  Steve BPremium join:2004-08-02 Seattle, WA | Please don't misunderstand people, just because I said that I would rather see warnings on the use of the phone while driving versus cancer warnings, does NOT mean I want warning labels on them. What I said above is what I would choose if I had to choose one...I would rather not have anything at all. | |
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1 edit | Re: Headset I'm not worried about the phone's radiation, so what makes you think that I'm worried about a 2.5mW device? 
Edit - At the 3 Watt output of the amplifier w/ a 6dBi antenna I am a little cautious about how long I am within 16" of it during a call or data use, but the phone and bluetooth I wouldn't worry about. -- Duct tape is like The Force it has a light side and a dark side, and it binds the Universe together | |
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 | | cell phones arenot radioactive all cell phones may do is produce heat. Why dont people try and understand how things work before they bitch about them.
You know what might have a higher chance of of cancer? inbreeding. Maby the people writting there laws should start looking outside there gene pool for a mate before worrying about other peoples cell phone usage | |
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 |  patcat88 join:2002-04-05 Jamaica, NY kudos:1 | Re: cell phones arenot radioactive said by stang222222 :
all cell phones may do is produce heat. Why dont people try and understand how things work before they bitch about them. Science and math are discouraged in America in favor of creative arts by the school system. | |
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Fact #1: CANCER is caused by IONIZING RADIATION. That's the kind of radiation you get from x-rays and stuff. It's the kind of radiation that can interact at a molecular level to change atoms. Cell phones, wireless hubs, etc, on the other hand, give off non-ionizing radiation, which affects.. nothing.
Fact #2: Have you ever flown in an Airplane? If so, you were bombarded with more radiation than you would get by holding a cell phone next to your head for 50 years. Should we put a warning label on Airplanes too?
Fact #3: There is NO SCIENCE to prove that cell phones cause cancer. Period. Forcing the manufacturer to put a warning label with no scientific backing is no better than teaching creationism is school. Both of them are junk science. -- Remember 1 in 4 people are retarded. 25% of Americans are Republican. Coincidence? I don't think so. | |
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"Wow this thing will give me caner, i want warning labels! I'll just keep it close to me most of the times but turned off, there we go!"
Can we sue over the useless pauses and messages in cell phone voice mail arguing that gives us greater exposure?
What about not using cell phones in door and at least 15 ft away from any entrance?
I still can't get over thinking that it will kill you but keeping it with you but turned off... | |
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| Re: This will give me cancer but I'll just turn it off. Your post made me chuckle. 
Although admittedly, I use my cell much like she does. Except that I don't think it's going to give me cancer, especially considering how little I use it. -- In dadkins' memory, Think outside the Fox... | |
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 DesdinovaPremium join:2003-01-26 Gaithersburg, MD | Hmm... I just LOVE Rep. Andrea Boland's solution of keeping the phone off when she's not using it. What, is she afraid the thing is going to be a glowing, spitting ball of nukular energy while it sits on her desk or in her purse? Or does she hold it up to her face, even when she's not using it?
I'm surprised the FAA hasn't banned cell phones on domestic flights since they clearly seem to pose such a danger to humans; terrorists could easily use all of this radioaktivakal energy for a nefarious attack: "We have twenty cell phones chained to the same number and they are wrapped around this child's head!! Unless the Evil Satan Uncle Sam approves free health care for the middle east, Ahmed will dial the number and this child will get tumors and do poorly in math!!"
Maybe THAT'S why Iran is enriching uranium, not for nuclear weapons but for their cell phone industry. I expect to see the House debating on WMC (weapons of mass communications) any day now. | |
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As one who only uses corded phones, I think they should force all the cellheads to go outside and stand at least 50' from the building entrance to use their toys. | |
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You'd think that in this day and age, we'd have proven that the ether does not exist... -- "Vision without funds.... is a hallucination" | |
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They honestly think my little phone here is going to be a problem?
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Check out your Dr. David Banner radiation exposure rating. Help I think I am getting pissed off and my skin is turning green!
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I would suggest one takes with a pinch of salt all this talk of "no link between cancer and mobile use being established in studies"
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| Re: Mobile phone industry Except in the case of that cover up it was a somewhat well known fact that every insurance agency in the country already knew that this link existed and charged smokers more since they knew it shortened their life expectancy. So lets consider the difference here briefly:
Smoking: 1. You were ingesting a burning chemical. 2. There was a large body of evidence that it caused harm. 3. Smokers showed other obvious physical damage from doing so: loss of lung capacity, yellowing of teeth and so on. 4. At the time that this was discovered almost nothing was known about cancer in general.
Cell Phones: 1. We know you are exposed to radio waves which so far have not been shown to cause cancer. They have been shown to be able to be used to cook micro-organisms, but that's about as dangerous as a wool hat for a human. 2. Since this link was proposed thirty years ago, before cell phones became popular no link has yet to be shown. 3. There are no other obvious physical signs of strain due to the phone. One caveat could be that cell phones may increase one's stress level by causing them to always be connected, and this can increase your susceptibility to diseases (including cancer if I remember correctly), but that is more a function of our society than the phone. Holding it can also cause cramps, but that's in the hand of arm not the head. 4. We know a lot about cancer, but we don't know enough to stop it. To be honest I don't think we ever will based on what we already know just like how we can't stop old age. | |
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 |  KearnstdElf WizardPremium join:2002-01-22 Mullica Hill, NJ | Re: They need to ban them in bars and resturants too! id love to see movie theaters run active jamming. we should make it legal here like they have for movie theaters in other nations. -- [65 Arcanist]Filan(High Elf) Zone: Broadband Reports | |
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 |  |  bear73Metnav... Fly The Unfriendly SkiesPremium join:2001-06-09 Grand Forks Afb, ND | Re: They need to ban them in bars and resturants too! all the theaters need to do is build a Faraday Cage into the place... or use that new RF blocking paint that engineers have come up with... -- If ya gotta go, Go with a SMILE! »www.thereligionofpeace.com/ | |
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 |  |  FBGuyyippee ki yayPremium join:2005-03-19 | if your worried about radiation from a cell phone then you don't want to be around a jammer. those things will make you sterile -- sbcglobal.net speedtest result 11/11/09 - 5256kbps | |
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 |  KearnstdElf WizardPremium join:2002-01-22 Mullica Hill, NJ | oh its not radiation, its the idiots that use em in the theater!
but yes a Fareday caged theater would be a viable solution now, and more importantly the FCC has no powers over building design allowing one to have an RF sealed set of rooms and they cant do a damn thing about it. -- [65 Arcanist]Filan(High Elf) Zone: Broadband Reports | |
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