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1 edit | Stupid! This is just stupid!
Don't think the case will hold up in court, as most all WiFi routers/APs are FCC compliant.
That group needs a punch to the face.
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Someone should mention that WiFi/Cellular Towers DO NOT produce radio waves, they only modulate data onto waves that are already there. | |
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| Re: Stupid! said by WiFiguru:This is just stupid! Don't think the case will hold up in court, as most all WiFi routers/APs are FCC compliant. That group needs a punch to the face. EDIT: Someone should mention that WiFi/Cellular Towers DO NOT produce radio waves, they only modulate data onto waves that are already there. Yes, one look at this case and the suit should be dismissed and the complainant recommended counseling and/or medication.
Ooh, can ya'll imagine the backlash from people like this when it's proved the issues with this are in their heads and all this nonsense about EM hurting people is really bunk after all?
Let's hope they get a judge who understands the tech issues and sees this for what it really is.
If one is this wacky, they deserve to wait a good while for a court date, especially when there are much more important matters on the docket. | |
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kudos:2 | said by WiFiguru:Someone should mention that WiFi/Cellular Towers DO NOT produce radio waves, they only modulate data onto waves that are already there. I guess all those cellular transmitters are just in there to warm the equipment huts?
Hopefully you were joking, but I fear you aren't and your guru status is self-awarded. | |
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| | | | Re: Stupid! The idea that cellular towers do no radiate energy is absurd. Zero energy transmitted = zero information conveyed.
Nevertheless, there is a small nugget of a good point in what WiFiguru said. Regardless of how the cell towers transmits work, electromagnetic energy impinges upon us all the time.
To start with, the whole surface of the planet is regularly bathed in light. Communications satellites orbit the Earth, transmitting their power onto huge swaths of the surface. Live power lines radiate at 60Hz (or 50Hz if you're in Europe). Long and medium wave radio travels to us from over-the-horizon. Pretty much every electrical device created, radiates to a greater or lesser degree. Yet the claimant chooses to ignore such EM sources.
The suggestion that turning off a limited subset of EM sources somehow cures the supposed allergies is, to say the least, a little arbitrary. | |
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|  Radio ActiveMy pappy's a pistolPremium
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Fullerton, CA | said by WiFiguru:EDIT: Someone should mention that WiFi/Cellular Towers DO NOT produce radio waves, they only modulate data onto waves that are already there. No one should mention that. It's not true.
You have no idea what you are talking about. As such, you are not a guru.
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| said by WiFiguru:Someone should mention that WiFi/Cellular Towers DO NOT produce radio waves, they only modulate data onto waves that are already there. Seriously? | |
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| Re: Stupid! said by NormanS:said by WiFiguru:Someone should mention that WiFi/Cellular Towers DO NOT produce radio waves, they only modulate data onto waves that are already there. Seriously? Do you think I was serious? LOL
It would be a funny argument if some dummy brought that to court. | |
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| Re: Stupid! said by WiFiguru:Do you think I was serious? LOL No sarcasm tags. I've seen weird stuff posted before.
It would be a funny argument if some dummy brought that to court.
I've sat through a court session, or three. Heard some of the stupidest excuses, and lamest arguments ever.
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| Re: Stupid! said by NormanS:said by WiFiguru:Do you think I was serious? LOL No sarcasm tags. I've seen weird stuff posted before. It would be a funny argument if some dummy brought that to court.
I've sat through a court session, or three. Heard some of the stupidest excuses, and lamest arguments ever. Oh yeah, I like people to run around with their heads cut off before I let the truth out.
Lets just hope that this doesn't hold up in court, and that people in the courtroom actually have some sort of brains. | |
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| Re: Stupid! It isn't supposed to be "amusing"; rather, a cue that the author does not actually believe what he is writing. I still use them, myself, to avoid being accused of many nasty things, such as being a racist, or "too stupid to breathe".
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| KearnstdElf WizardPremium
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also even if the court did tell the neighbor to shut off the AP, its not like other court orders that are easy to enforce. let alone remember you are under.
Neighbor should say his Wifi is secured and as such it cannot be accessed by someone's brain unless they managed to get the WPA key!
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| Re: Stupid! said by Kearnstd:Neighbor should say his Wifi is secured and as such it cannot be accessed by someone's brain unless they managed to get the WPA key! Boom! | |
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| |  NOVA_GuyObamaCare Kills AmericansPremium
join:2002-03-05 | Wouldn't the simplest solution to all this nonsense be for the neighbor to stop broadcasting his SSID on his access point?
He could then lie to this obviously loony guy and tell him that he's complied. There-- a simple solution to a clear nut job demand that involves just a minute or two worth of work to reconfigure a router.
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| | | I've been around 1.8Mhz to 6Ghz on a daily basis for years and IIIIIIIIII suffeeeerrrrr nooooo illllllll eeffects from it. | |
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Someone should mention that WiFi/Cellular Towers DO NOT produce radio waves, they only modulate data onto waves that are already there.
Not true. They generate and radiate radio waves, and modulate them with data. | |
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i don't understand why these "allergic" indviduals don't just set up their homes as faraday cages with grounded foil or paint in the walls. it's very possible to do this. kind of like a big tin foil hat.
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West Lafayette, IN | Re: Stupid! No kidding. If I were the person being sued I would demand that the plaintiff be able to demonstrate being able to detect a radio signal without the use of electronics. | |
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"If (Firstenberg) cannot obtain preliminary relief, he will be forced to continue to sleep in his car, enduring winter cold and discomfort, until this case can be heard."
Someone might want to point out to this moron (or better yet, the guy he is suing) that his car generates NUMEROUS magnetic fields.
Alternator, ignition coils, speed sensors, actuators, every inch of energized wiring...pretty much the entire car is enveloped in magnetic fields unless the battery is disconnected, and even then, all the magnets located in the many devices are still creating magnetic fields. | |
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Yes, the mere perception of harm is quite often enough to qualify as harm in too many cases.
Like the woman who WAS a fortune teller sued (AND WON BIG!) after an MRI. She claims the test killed her ability to speak with the spirit world, adversely affecting her ability to earn a living. | |
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»news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100106/tc_···llphones
He said he had expected cell phone exposure to increase the effects of dementia.
"Quite to the contrary, those mice were protected if the cell phone exposure was started in early adulthood. Or if the cellphone exposure was started after they were already memory- impaired, it reversed that impairment," Arendash said in a telephone interview.
At the end of that time, they found cellphone exposure erased a build-up of beta amyloid, a protein that serves as a hallmark of Alzheimer's disease.
The Alzheimer's mice showed improvement and had reversal of their brain pathology, he said. So folks, keep that cellphone plugged to your ear. Or sit next to that WiFi AP. It can only help you remain lucid in to old age. 
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1 edit | Sue the Sun better sue the SUN
it give's a 1,000 watts of radiation per square yard
and no hiding in your house will not help
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1 edit | Re: I Bet he has a Cellphone? said by hayabusa3303:he is one of these assholes who has two and three cell phones and sleeps with a bluetooth on his ear. Ah yes. I call them "The Borg". I mean, how do we know the first Borg implant WASN'T a bluetooth headset. | |
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| need a hero Mr. Firstenberg needs a hero to advance his cause. Jonathan Lee Riches is just the man.
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Jonathan Lee Riches vs. Randy Weaver, et al
October 4, 2007 October 15, 2007
Plaintiff sued Randy Weaver, Vicki Weaver, Kevin L. harris, Lon T. Horiuchi and Arthur Roderick for "Shooting My Mind to Death." Plaintiff alleged that Randy Weaver was after him because plaintiff had a computer affair with Vicki Weaver on internet chat lines. Randy Weaver alleged then hired sharp shooters to surround FCI Williamsburg to scope out plaintiff's life. Plaintiff stated that he had survived 628 assassination attempts in the last 6 months. Plaintiff also charged that Randy Weaver killed an FBI analyst in front of Home Depot and whose murder was blamed on John Muhammed. Plaintiff also alleged that Randy Weaver killed Michael Jordan's father, as well as President Kennedy. Plaintiff added that Weaver wants him to wear lipstick and name change to Victoria Weaver II.
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Riches v. Doe
September 20, 2007 September 19, 2007
Plaintiff alleged that defendant Government Snitches and Informants, Inc. is a secret organization whose members include George W. Bush, Senator Arlen Spector, Richard Simmons, Hong Kong gangs, Columbine High School and RFID radio chips. Plaintiff further alleged that defendants hired illegal workers from Cuba, built a secret tunnel from Miami International Airport to a remote Cuban location, subjected plaintiff to brain washing and microwave testing daily, and spun him in a washer and dryer.
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Why hasn't the state filed an involuntary commitment order on this guy and given him his day in court before locking him away in a mental hospital for the rest of his life? All those cases just clogging up the civil courts.
Well, at the moment, Riches is a federal inmate incarcerated for a federal crime in a federal prison . . . that plus the fact that he's just playing at being crazy. Putting him in a mental hospital would be doing him a favor.
As for his plethora of suits, they're not really clogging up anything. They're readily and easily dismissed in the federal court system under the Prison Litigation Reform Act - usually on the day they're filed (trust me, I have first hand knowledge of Mr. Riches).
Santa Fe is a unique place filled with unique individuals. Sort of Univ. of Cal. - Berkeley; with a touch of San Francisco; all rolled into a smallish western town. So this really fits.
Shoot Roswell, NM is in New Mexico too. | |
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| | | | said by fAcEtIOUs:Why hasn't the state filed an involuntary commitment order on this guy and given him his day in court before locking him away in a mental hospital for the rest of his life? All those cases just clogging up the civil courts. Getting someone committed isn't as easy as it used to be. You have to prove that they are a danger to themselves or others. Being, or pretending to be, crazy as a loon won't cut it anymore unless you might possibly hurt yourself or someone else. | |
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Jonathan Lee Riches vs. Randy Weaver, et al
October 4, 2007 October 15, 2007
Plaintiff sued Randy Weaver, Vicki Weaver, Kevin L. harris, Lon T. Horiuchi and Arthur Roderick for "Shooting My Mind to Death." Plaintiff alleged that Randy Weaver was after him because plaintiff had a computer affair with Vicki Weaver on internet chat lines. Randy Weaver alleged then hired sharp shooters to surround FCI Williamsburg to scope out plaintiff's life. Plaintiff stated that he had survived 628 assassination attempts in the last 6 months. Plaintiff also charged that Randy Weaver killed an FBI analyst in front of Home Depot and whose murder was blamed on John Muhammed. Plaintiff also alleged that Randy Weaver killed Michael Jordan's father, as well as President Kennedy. Plaintiff added that Weaver wants him to wear lipstick and name change to Victoria Weaver II.
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September 20, 2007 September 19, 2007
Plaintiff alleged that defendant Government Snitches and Informants, Inc. is a secret organization whose members include George W. Bush, Senator Arlen Spector, Richard Simmons, Hong Kong gangs, Columbine High School and RFID radio chips. Plaintiff further alleged that defendants hired illegal workers from Cuba, built a secret tunnel from Miami International Airport to a remote Cuban location, subjected plaintiff to brain washing and microwave testing daily, and spun him in a washer and dryer.
This guy is funny you should go and read some of his suits. That guy has too much time on his hands. | |
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| | | | Re: need a hero Fantastic! the guy even has his own RSS feed to keep up with his work! You should read the last one, where he is complaining about arthritis because of the number of lawsuits he had to write and that he's now considering to retire. | |
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| LOL WTF "Further, because the two houses at one time were on a single lot, their electrical systems are fed from a single main cable. In fact, the electric meter for my house is mounted on (Monribot's) house. Electromagnetic fields emitted in (Monribot's) house are transmitted by wire directly into my house."
First, his meter is on the other persons house? I'm sure they share electric payments per months or something??
Second, how the fuck does electricity running thru the house effect a person? Is this loon aware that pretty much anything running thru the electric grid has electromagnetic radiation?
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When he finds it he is going to go nuts about how much worse he was during that time. Everyone can laugh more.
Of course for even more laughter, open it and basically unhook the internals and just wire an LED to turn on. That way it wasn't doing anything but lighting an LED. | |
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| | Easy :) Just do a controlled blind study - turn off WiFi, see if "illness goes away", then turn it back on and see if he will spontaneously combusts or something.
I love that story about a small community complaining that new cell phone tower is causing all sorts of headaches, and then the owner of the tower says "Wow, can you imagine how you'd feel if we actually turned on the equipment on it!"
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| | | Re: Easy :) said by bugabuga:Just do a controlled blind study - turn off WiFi, see if "illness goes away", then turn it back on and see if he will spontaneously combusts or something. I love that story about a small community complaining that new cell phone tower is causing all sorts of headaches, and then the owner of the tower says "Wow, can you imagine how you'd feel if we actually turned on the equipment on it!" "Ohh...well...uhh...in that case please don't turn them on k?" | |
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| dynodbPremium,VIP
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Minneapolis, MN | said by bugabuga:Just do a controlled blind study - turn off WiFi, see if "illness goes away", then turn it back on and see if he will spontaneously combusts or something.\ People who claim to be affected almost always refuse to take part in double-blind studies. Once they become vested in their delusions, they won't voluntarily allow them to be exposed. | |
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They included tests where the subject had no indications if the transmitter was on or not, and another one where there was a light to indicate it, as well as one where they were told the light indicated the transmitter was on, but they lied as the light had nothing to do with the transmitter.
End results, with no indicator it was the same as random guessing.
With the indicators, they felt sick whenever they thought the transmitter was on (light was on), even when it wasn't, and felt fine when the transmitter was on but the light was off...
End result, they decided it's psychosomatic, aka - it's all imaginary.
Electromagnetic sensitivity syndrome is just the newest form of hypochondria. | |
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Sounds interesting, but not if the source is "I heard about..." | |
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How about someone go over there with a lead pipe.. | |
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|  ericn32mehPremium
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| Re: There is a simple solution.. These things are useless unless grounded. You won't "protect" your brain against EMR with a mashed-up piece of aluminum foil. It'll only work if you attach a ground wire and clamp it to a metallic water main.
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| Re: There is a simple solution.. said by ericn32:These things are useless unless grounded. You won't "protect" your brain against EMR with a mashed-up piece of aluminum foil. It'll only work if you attach a ground wire and clamp it to a metallic water main. I think this whole thing is stupid. Not hardly...
For one thing aluminum is a non-ferrous metal. So it won't affect the magnetic component of the EM field at all. That's why non-ferrous metal foils are used as electrostatic shields (Faraday shields) between magnetic transformer windings. The magnetic component of the EM field will go right through that foil hat. The electric field component won't. So it's a partial solution
And secondly, at the frequencies in question, any ground wire would be so long as to be a part of the antenna and not a ground. To be a ground, the wire to the ground point must be a small fraction of a wavelength long. With the frequencies in question, this would be impossible. And lastly, the water maim would suffer from the same size/length issues as the ground wire. | |
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1 edit | Buy a house in the desert! Really, buy a house in the desert or in the middle of Kansas farmland..... and shut the hell up.
There are so many signals in the air, and this nutcase is sueing his neighbor over a wireless router?
A neighbors cell phone or wireless router is only a fraction of what goes through the air.... beginning with cellphone traffic of everyone else in the neighborhood, digital OTA television, radio signals, satellite signals from dozens of satellites for TV, Satelite radio and data connections, military radio frequencies, digital and analog emergency service signals, airplane radio traffic, wireless point-to-point data connections which could be zipping right over your house (and in realality is a cone so will hit your house as well as the endpoint), local kids with 1-mile walkie-talkies, truckers with MC27 radio, the neighborhood kids with radio controlled cars, most of your neighbors with 900 Mhz, 2.4 Ghz, and 5.1 Ghz cordless phones which will most likely reach about 300 feet and to your neighbors home....
And I just typed that out straight, and I am probably forgetting all sorts of signals that are crossing straight to your brain.....
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Easy enough to do. This being Santa Fe, its not the middle of no where, but you have a pretty good view of it. You could probably find a place with no cell phone coverage or wifi within 50 miles of downtown. | |
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Brick, NJ | Here's an idea Those same ppl that can be helped by therapy could also be cured with a bullet to the back of the head; Neo-luddites like them don't deserve to breath fresh air and it is typical that they would sue.
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| Mental Help It is amazing but you can be sued in this country, and a temporary injunction can be placed on you restricting your freedom, until court! I have had this happen to me out of pure vengeance... and it worked until we got to court. Not to mention the legal fees, which I NEVER got back.
I use to have this guy call me EVERY DAY and start telling me how Verizon was poisoning our brains, all kinds of weird crap. I blocked his number and he would call back the next day from another. FINALLY I got a phone trace, ironically back to a Verizon land line, and they sent the Sheriff to his home. The Sheriff found a very "mentally unstable" guy with 15 phone lines, a bunch of phones, notebooks all over the place. In EVERY notebook the guy had my name and number as the first of a long list of numbers. Long story short, he was involuntarily committed because he was seen as a danger to others. He got medication and therapy and I followed up, he is doing well.
But the civil system is really messed up sometimes (oh, the criminal system too). Anyone can sue for anything and it can impact lives severely. Just a lawsuit for no good reason will cost you a nice retainer to defend... even if it is dismissed (which is usually not the case as their is a lawyer on the other side getting paid to get it into court so he can make more money off of his client).
These people very well could be getting sick, but until it is proven, these same people cannot inflict harm on others. A lawsuit to me is harm as it causes distress in others lives.
Also, I think if the guy was sick, his car would be the last place he is going to be safe. Where can you drive to and not be exposed to signals from somewhere? There is a huge amount of radiation from everything, let alone man-made things. The man-made types do include satelite signals that are numerous, cell signals, radio transmissions, television, power lines, all sorts of signals other than cellular and WiFi.
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1 edit | Re: Mental Help What about the RF radiation from the oscillator in the car radio, the RF that is emitted by the cars computer system, and worst of all is the Rf signals that are generated by the ignition system as the spark plugs are fired?? Or the alternator??
I wonder if I could go back and sue the Navy for the time I worked on the prototype of the AEGIS AN/SPY1 5 Megawatt Radar transmitter. I'm sure there was plenty of backscattered RF.....hmmm. | |
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| Uhh... 1. Does he have a microwave in the house?Because if he does the case is bunk. Consumer routers generate at most 70 or so mW (milliwatts) of EM radiation shooting out of their antennas. Microwaves are four orders of magnitude greater than that, and emit more than 70 mW even with shielding to my knowledge; that's why you get this:
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2. If the plaintiff has a cordless phone that isn't 900MHz or DECT or 5.8GHz, or if they have a Bluetooth headset, or if there's something around that's transmitting on 2.4 GHz spectrum, that doesn't cause them to go insane, the case is bunk. There's no way a 64QAM wireless signal is making them sick and some other 2.4 GHz signal isn't.
3. If the plaintiff wants to sue someone, why not spend that money turning their house into a Faraday cage? Should stop EM radiation from the outside, 2.4GHz or otherwise. Of course, would also kill their cell signal...assuming they have a cell phone. Speaking of which, cells pump out 200mW of power at most last I checked, significantly more than wireless access points.I believe cordless phones are similar in output. Heck, DECT and PCS phones (and AWS phones for that matter) are on about the same spectrum so they should be equally "harmful" though I'm sure that, if the plaintiff has any, they'll protest that they aren't.
4. If the plaintiff has so much of a problem with wirelesss, they should get themselves a five acre lot with the house in the middle. That should be far enough from any stray WiFi signals to make their life nice and easy. | |
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join:2003-06-28 | Re: Uhh... If anything the case should fall apart when they do a double blind study of the plaintiffs in a faraday cage with a microwave and router. It shouldn't have even gotten to the lawsuit stage. People can and do make themselves sick/better with placebo effects.
The terrible thing here though is that the real losers here are the taxpayers and officials who have to spend their time dealing with this, while lawyers on both sides are probably laughing their socks off while pocketing swaths of cash. | |
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Springfield, OR | Re: fail How about Clozaril, I always like giving useless dead beats this stuff. | |
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Camden, TN | He could just uses this »www.lessemf.com/paint.html
Easy to apply water-based paint for walls, ceilings, doors and other interior OR exterior surfaces. Very effective for blocking cell phone signals, CB, TV, AM, FM signals, radiofrequency radiation and microwaves. Tested highly effective up to 18 GHz! | |
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Cant use FM radio
cant even use wifi or cordless phone.
its like WTF | |
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