3 edits | nixonized usa seems to me the mafia really is running the usa, just as nixon days
see how that turned out near its end
the protests?
watergate
vietnam war
see any similarities?
they just made it legal now.....
maybe they should make prostitution legal so presidents can ya know clinton them....of course just for him.... |
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Re: nixonized usa Hoax and Chains
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 LinklistPremium
join:2002-03-03
Williamstown, NJ
kudos:5 | AT&T being good citizen after 9/11 attacks I just see an organization that was determined to help the US defend itself against terrorists after the 9/11 attacks. And if all the paperwork was sometimes delayed and not all the i's dotted and t's crossed, I am ok with that. |
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 winsyrstrifeRiver City BouncePremium
join:2002-04-30
Brooklyn, NY | What has to happen before enough is enough? When do we draw the line? When is someone held accountable? When does someone acknowledge a conscience?
So vile. |
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 jjoshuaPremium
join:2001-06-01
Scotch Plains, NJ
kudos:3 | Obama = Bush No change here. |
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| lol!!! Nothing new here lol about AT&T!!! |
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| Coming soon to canada this year Soon The RCMP will be doing this soon then the headline will be:
Bell Repeatedly Helped RCMP Break Communications Law.
Free Speech and Consumer Choice is Fading fast.Soon we will have NO VOICE. |
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amungusPremium
join:2004-11-26
America | broken Breaking the laws in order to enforce them is wrong.
Ends don't justify means.
Big brother loves you. |
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 en102Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | reply to jjoshua
Re: Obama = Bush For the 'general public', I agree. |
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Re: broken said by amungus:Breaking the laws in order to enforce them is wrong. But, did they break the law?
18 U.S.C. 2511(2)(a)(ii)(B) was the law of the land. And, it was the basis for so-called "immunity" which covered actions between 9/11 and when FISA was amended by the Patriot Act to better accommodate the President's claimed needs.
Basically, we were in a period where, legally, all the President had to do is say "no warrant is necessary." No proof to anyone that that was true.
Mark |
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Re: broken Broken record... |
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 SteveI know your IP addressConsultant
join:2001-03-10
Yorba Linda, CA
kudos:5 | reply to Linklist
Re: AT&T being good citizen after 9/11 attacks said by Linklist:I just see an organization that was determined to help the US defend itself against terrorists after the 9/11 attacks. And if all the paperwork was sometimes delayed and not all the i's dotted and t's crossed, I am ok with that. Here, let me fix this for you:I do not believe in the rule of law |
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 dib22
join:2002-01-27
Kansas City, MO
kudos:2 | reply to Linklist
I remember when AT&T actually stood up for its customers rights. I remember when AT&T followed the letter of the law instead of rolling over when ever the govt. asked. |
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Free Speech Dead soon? nope, we don't have a voice NOW.
Jan. 21: Prof. Jonathan Turley discusses whether the Supreme Court decision on special interests will split the free speech community and lead to bad government.
»www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/vp/···34984956 |
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Re: AT&T being good citizen after 9/11 attacks said by Jim Kirk:said by Linklist:I just see an organization that was determined to help the US defend itself against terrorists after the 9/11 attacks. And if all the paperwork was sometimes delayed and not all the i's dotted and t's crossed, I am ok with that. In many cases the FBI never got subpoenas, and therefore broke the law. You are trolling. What required the FBI to get supoeneas? Are you ignoring the role of 18 U.S.C. 2511(2)(a)(ii)(B)?
Also, don't forget 18 U.S.C. 2702(a)(3) & (c). It recognizes telcos legitimate participation with law enforcement due to exigent circumstances.
And, that law was even broadened by the Patriot Act. Instead of a "reasonable belief" in "imminent danger," it was changed to merely "good faith belief" in danger (not imminent.).
That and how 2511 was used as the basis of so-called "immunity" goes a long way to prove that the Executive branch was acting judiciously during that period between 9/11 and amendment of FISA via the Patriot Act.
If the Executive wasn't, those laws wouldn't have been expanded and used the way they were.
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Greensboro, NC
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Re: What has to happen There is no such thing as enough.
I hope that we have wiretaps installed in EVERY home, condo, apartment etc. to the point that we have to check in to take a shower, brush teeth, normal day activities.
Also, since the FBI checks out various websites and such, there should be a COUNTRY WIDE curfew at 8 pm.
I mean, it's all in the name of safety and national security.
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