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Comments on news posted 2010-02-10 14:12:14: As if ISPs didn't hate Google enough already for recent disruptions in the wireless space, the search giant today announced via their corporate blog that the company is deploying an experimental fiber to the home network in a handful of trial locatio.. ..

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recneps
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Whitby, ON

Canada, please

So.. Google..
When are you doing this in Canada?

The Dv8or
Just call me Dong Suck Oh, M.D.
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Denver, CO

Re: Canada, please

About a quarter to NEVARRRR!!!!!!!!

ReformCRTC
Support Your Independent ISP

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Canada
At least they're not calling it "Fibe" :P

JunjiHiroma
Live Free Or Die

join:2008-03-18

Re: Canada, please

Canada will be like Africa (Dialup Speeds) while the States gets Japan's GB/s speeds.Sucks to be in canada ,eh? :3
brianiscool

join:2000-08-16
40303
kudos:1
Once they install wireless-access points in Maple tree's.
john262

join:2003-09-26
Elko, NV

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Perhaps a Canadian owned company should do that. Google is headquartered in the USA and it makes sense that they would do it in this country first.

JunjiHiroma
Live Free Or Die

join:2008-03-18

Re: Canada, please

said by john262:

Perhaps a Canadian owned company should do that. Google is headquartered in the USA and it makes sense that they would do it in this country first.
Rogers and bell?nah,they wouldn't do it,they'd probably want us staying on africa-like dialup speeds.
iansltx

join:2007-02-19
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Re: Canada, please

Correction: dialup-like upload speeds. You guys can get decent downloads on DOCSIS 3.

Maybe Novus will keep expanding...

...you could contact »gorillanet.ca in the meanwhile

billybobdole

@corp-tld.com
Have you used the internet in Africa? > 1,000 ms roundtrip.... Excruciatingly painful. I must say, AT&T's 3g network is faster but only by a bit.
chilibball

join:2008-11-20
Albany

Re: Canada, please

No offense but that was pretty funny, and true. It gave me a good chuckle at work.
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Elmo
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said by recneps:

So.. Google..
When are you doing this in Canada?
Until you guys actually win the Stanley Cup again.... you will remain at 1993 level speeds, which coincidentally was the LAST year the cup was in Canada.
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Ironmike

join:2009-02-18
Brantford, ON

Re: Canada, please

Ouch! That's harsh.

ReformCRTC
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Canada

Re: Canada, please

Zingggg! At least it was the Habs! Suckz to be a Leafs Fan! I mean, now that the Saints aint the Aints anymore, the Leafs are the next longest futile professional sports team!

aztecnology
O Rly?
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Re: Canada, please

said by ReformCRTC:

Zingggg! At least it was the Habs! Suckz to be a Leafs Fan! I mean, now that the Saints aint the Aints anymore, the Leafs are the next longest futile professional sports team!
Doesn't get worse than the Clippers and the Cubs...
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gorehound

join:2009-06-19
Portland, ME
Google come to Portland Maine so I can dump Slime WArner please.
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said by recneps:

So.. Google..
When are you doing this in Canada?
Nope.

FIOS has provided alot of fiber to customers. Millions of people have 50/20mbit.

But Im still stuck with my not quite 2mbit connection. Sure I could get cable but then I also get a cap.

Ptd

@windjammercable.net

Wake up same old same old ISPs

I hope this is the giant kick in the arse these other providers need to start picking up the slack and getting better broadband in the works. Team Google!!
buzz_4_20

join:2003-09-20
Presque Isle, ME

Sign Up

Where can I?

fAcEtIOUs
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Re: Sign Up

said by buzz_4_20:

Where can I?
»www.google.com/appserve/fiberrfi···/options

I also sent an email to all members of my town council to apply.

digitalfreak
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Blacklick, OH

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Re: Sign Up

Interesting. Your position has been that Google is the evil one in the net neutrality fight, but I guess now evil is ok if they give you 1Gbps Internet access.

Uncle Paul

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Re: Sign Up

Someone once told me, everything's for sale... just a mater of price.

Tsume
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said by fAcEtIOUs:

said by buzz_4_20:

Where can I?
»www.google.com/appserve/fiberrfi···/options

I also sent an email to all members of my town council to apply.
I don't know that Google will enter a saturated market like New Jersey. I would imagine they are targeting this to more rural areas with less competition judging from the description. Can't hurt to ask though
iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
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Re: Sign Up

I woudln't say rural. Too expensive to wire. However small to medium sized towns exist aplenty that Google could move into. Remember, suburbs are easy to wire, metropolises are hard, rural areas are hard.
jimbo2150

join:2004-05-10
Youngstown, OH
said by buzz_4_20:

Where can I?
Already submitted my town. I will submit it to the local government and hopefully they will submit requests as well.
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mig288
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Merchantville, NJ

Hitting the Google lottery

The lucky people will have to match 5 white balls and one Google ball. lol

Bring it to my house Google!

fAcEtIOUs
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Re: Hitting the Google lottery

said by mig288:

The lucky people will have to match 5 white balls and one Google ball. lol

Bring it to my house Google!
Yes, the odds of getting this in my community are probably about the same as winning the lottery.
MRCUR

join:2007-03-09
Columbia, PA

Fantastic!

This is absolutely excellent news. I'd drop Comcast in a heartbeat (faster if I could) for Google's Internet offering.

Matt
All noise, no signal.
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Jamestown, NC
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Motivation?

Ultimately, I think Google wants the hard data to show that this model works. They won't be sued by the big ILEC/MSOs and if they are, have the capital to laugh it off.

If Google can show that this model works by increasing speeds, increasing competitiveness, and accomplishes both of those at a reasonable cost, the duopoly won't have a leg to stand on when they claim it costs too much to deliver this kind of speed and connectivity to the home.
bogey780

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Re: Motivation?

They'll lose a ton of money on this. They just have a ton of money to lose so it works out.

Gbcue
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Re: Motivation?

said by bogey780:

They'll lose a ton of money on this. They just have a ton of money to lose so it works out.
It's an experiment, they can and expect to.
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chronoss2009
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agreed

ill get 50.1 % of the cash needed by investors so you dont have WIND issue blow your way, im sure the word out to all canadians to invest in a google ISP thats mostly owned by real people at a reason able share price would be a lovely way to um start off this year.

ya know even talk to WIND and teksavvy
this would if they act as dumb pipe and either have massive high caps or none at all would be the start of a push on BCE and rogers and even shaw and telus

go talk to novus and nexicom all the lil bit players that have lil spots around and offer a buyin deal ......
get jeremy to work ....good stuff man not taking that 50 million bribe from MS on your Samba work....

thats the kinda people google is hiring....

Van
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join:2009-07-08
New Orleans, LA

The minute this turns into a good, helpful

idea to the consumers, we will see the corporations fight back with everything they have

No way they simply allow a cheap, fast option to consumers
caco
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Whittier, AK

Re: The minute this turns into a good, helpful

Cheap? That is yet to be seen.
iansltx

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Correction: if they can't lobby Google out of existence on this, they will lower prices to compete, as long as Google prices their service competitively. If Google offers the service for $70 per month where TWC's packages end at $60 then TWC probably won't change things much. If Google offers it for $50 though TWC and others will have smoking deals on slower access.

bxboy

@verizon.net

"competitive prices"

What exactly can we expect those to be? For example, we have here in NYC, 100Mb for roughly $100(OptimumUltra). Are we going to see the prices at say, $200/mo for gigabit, $500/mo? What?
iansltx

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Re: "competitive prices"

Probably not. That wouldn't be like Google. I'd bet on $50 per month. If you're digging fiber you can start out big as long aas you own the last, middle and backbone miles. Google owns their own backbone and has plenty of inbound capacity, so the bandwidth side of things for them is essentially free. What remains is the middle and last miles, but if they can swing that they can go whole hog.
underscore

join:2004-04-20
Fairfax, VA

Moving the market forward

I can see Google leading the market into the next generation of internet speeds. They did it with Gmail (who else was offering 1GB email storage for free when it started?) , why not FTTH?

ptrowski
Got Helix?
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Putnam, CT
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What would be the ToS?

I would have to see their privacy policy on this before I go head over heels. Everyone hears "fiber" and goes nuts.

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scooper

join:2000-07-11
Youngsville, NC
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Do you know how long it would take me to switch ?

Especially if this plus a VoIP was cheaper than my current provider ?

About 2 shakes....
iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
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Re: Do you know how long it would take me to switch ?

How about if it was $10 more expensive?

I'd switch if the service was $100 per month if they deployed it here at school. That's the same size as my whole school's pipe to the internet!
TIGERON

join:2008-03-11
Pacifica, CA
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Thank You

If google deploys this in the Bay Area, good riddance to AT&T & Comcast.

I get charged $30 a month for a pathetic 1mb DSL connection from AT&T. Go to hell. It's also embarrassing that we're number 38th in the world as far as internet speeds. Two of the largest U.S. ISPs refuse to deploy to everyone in this country and now want to nickle and dime subscribers for every single thing they do and are against net neutrality?!>!#@

F**K YOU.
tthnow

join:2006-06-07
Oakland, CA

Re: Thank You

I agree with you Tigeron. I think Con-cast is chitting bricks right now! DSL speeds slow as hell. Con-cast fast as hell but limited in usage because of caps.
iansltx

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Re: Thank You

Correction: Comcast is reasonably fast on downloads, slowish on uploads, and capped so that the top 1% have to pay more (bi class) or go elsewhere. It also costs a fair bit of money considering the connection speed you get.

Whereas Google's fiber is RIDICULOUSLY fast on downloads and uploads, and will be priced "competitively" which means they'll have much more bang for the buck vs. Comcast.

Comcast isn't bad here, but things could be a lot better. Heck, I'd love a 25/25 fiber connection, let alone a gig!
iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
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I'd pay $100 per month for this

Without even thinking twice. Having 'net access that's as fast as my wired LAN..well, the benefits are obvious.
majortom1029

join:2006-10-19
Lindenhurst, NY
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sent i nfor where i work and to our town supervisior

I work at a library that has a branch in a poor area. I applied for the library and sent a link to our town supervisor so he can put in the info that google wants.
bn1221

join:2009-04-29
Cortland, NY

Sign me up

I'll move if need be.
tthnow

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Oakland, CA

Re: Sign me up

Everyone please sign up!

Simba7
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Billings, MT

Re: Sign me up

I'm already there.

Cheese
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OOOO!

ME ME ME! PLEASE GOOGLE! I LOVE YOU!

FBGuy
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Re: OOOO!

tf2 would download in what .025 seconds over that?

Cheese
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Re: OOOO!

said by FBGuy:

tf2 would download in what .025 seconds over that?
Hell yes!

El Quintron
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Game Changer

Assuming Skynet Google can pull this off everyone wins at least in the form of lower prices.

Traditional ISPs could easily differentiate themselves by selling privacy over google, with higher speeds and lower than their current prices for similar offerings.

Google wins either way because all of a sudden there's way more bandwith and way more traffic which is Google's main revenue stream anyways.
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cpsycho

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2 edits

Re: Game Changer


»www.901am.com/2007/google-to-rul···rth.html

El Quintron
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Re: Game Changer


makoute

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That's the thing though, they can't differentiate themselves with privacy.
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plenty of choices on where

there are plenty of city, suburb and rural locations where the top dozen cable and telco companies refused to upgrade and/or deploy their network. what will be nice to see is at least 1/4th of that fiber deep in the heart of qwest land to show them (in the south west) how it's done RIGHT. next, locate some gigabit fiber in the top dozen or so markets to force the big 12 companies to lower prices for stand-alone internet. after that, then you can have the have-not lottery of where the balance goes.
iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
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Re: plenty of choices on where

Agreed. In the Denver metro Qwest has VDSL in a few locations, but otherwise is limited to 6/700 on real world speeds by using old ADSL technology. Comcast sweeps up the rest of the customers and you pay in spades for the privelege of internet that

a) works
b) is fast

My internet-only installation fee was $100. On top of that you either buy an $80 DOCSIS 3 modem (or a $20 DOCSIS 2 modem if you look in the right place) or rent one for $5 per month. Counting the modem rental fee, Comcast's 12/2 tier is a whopping $60 per moth. If you want 5 Mbps of upload speed and don't have your own modem the cost is $80. 50/10 is a little over $120 when you figure in the modem cost.

In San Antonio and Austin, TX prices are a bit better que to competition. Grande Communications has 15/4 fiber for I think $50 in certain locations. TWC has 15/2 cable everywhere for $50. That said, if you want more than 15/2 prices go up quickly. I believe AT&T's 24/3 VDSL service is either $65 or $75 per month. If you want more than 3 Mbps up, or the prospect of more than 5 Mbps up (TWC's 50/5 $100 tier will be coming to San Antonio soonish) you move to cooperative-land and get GVTC 40/10 for $95 with a year contract, or $100 without one.

Houston has Comcast, which is slowly deploying DOCSIS 3 there, and U-Verse. Entouch is another provider there, but I think they don't go above about 22 Mbps.

Hopefully Google lays down fiber in an area where cable is competing with DSL with no residential fiber in sight, so the cable/DSL providers have to compete on price or jack up speeds...or switch to Google fiber as their means of getting to customers' homes. Only time will tell what approach they take...

cpsycho

join:2008-06-03
HarperLand

But bandwidth is so expensive

I am waiting for the shills to chime in saying how this is impossible and bandwidth is as expensive as a house purchase.

I hope Google expands their test bed to canada, I would fight tooth and nail to get that service. I know its wishful thinking but one is allowed to wish.

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