1 edit | disgusting Well at least AT&T will never let you down.. If there was ever a doubt they are now worse than Big Red.. the "globe" is refereed to as the "death star" and they live up to it! |
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 ptrowskiGot Helix?Premium
join:2005-03-14
Putnam, CT
kudos:4 | I will admit this is pretty freaking weak. It ruins the whole idea of Android. |
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 DreadOn coursePremium
join:2005-02-28
Bronx, NY
kudos:6 | reply to theeinstein
Yup working as intended.
I find it funny that there is no Google search on the device despite being a on Android OS, way to fail AT&T
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 woody7Premium
join:2000-10-13
Torrance, CA | hmmmm.... Just don't buy the fricking phone.........
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Re: disgusting Its pretty sad that Google even allows it.. It proves that even they will bend over to the dollar! |
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| Stuff My hope is that once Android reaches a large enough market share of the smartphone market Google will pull in the reigns and play hardball with the carriers, forcing them to use only an open, Google approved version, in the same way Microsoft and Apple do with their OS's.
Also I really, really wish SBC had never merged with AT&T. Once you get past 4 competitors in any market you start to have some real price competition and innovation. A 5th nation-wide competitor would work wonders for our industry. Heck, if MCI still existed and we had 6 competitors, the industry would look completely different than it does now. |
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 pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium
join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD | Ok so...? This clearly isn't an ideal phone for people like us then. Dismiss this phone and find a different one.
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Re: disgusting If they didn't allow it, it would look bad on them. |
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 Steve BPremium
join:2004-08-02
Seattle, WA | Well.... I did some more digging and it appears (I haven't seen proof yet) that Google search may not have been removed after all. Someone mentioned the 'default' was changed to yahoo and that you could change it back to Google at anytime. Still, what AT&T is doing is crazy. |
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 elios
join:2005-11-15
Springfield, MO | reply to Dread
Re: disgusting doesnt that kinda defeat the point of Android?
makes me wonder if it even has the google maps GPS ap |
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 FBGuyPremium
join:2005-03-19
Evanston, IL
1 edit | its AN ABOMINATION!
you can't add 3rd party(non-market) applications... it makes me sick to think this shares the same OS as my g1. at&t has mommy daddy issues. |
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 funchordsHelloPremium,MVM
join:2001-03-11
Yarmouth Port, MA
kudos:6 | reply to sonicmerlin
Re: Stuff said by sonicmerlin:My hope is that once Android reaches a large enough market share of the smartphone market Google will pull in the reigns and play hardball with the carriers, forcing them to use only an open, Google approved version, in the same way Microsoft and Apple do with their OS's. I know your reaction is a totally honest one. I'm not going to bash you for it. You know, normally I agree with you, but isn't the point of Open Source to allow developers to take it and use it to make their own stuff (with attribution and source-sharing, of course)?
Yes, we should be mad at AT&T for AGAIN putting the "no" in technology, but Google shouldn't force AT&T to do anything except to follow the open-source license.
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openbox9Premium
join:2004-01-26
japan
kudos:2 | reply to woody7
Re: hmmmm.... But that provides one less thing to whine about on the front page. |
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funchordsHelloPremium,MVM
join:2001-03-11
Yarmouth Port, MA
kudos:6 | said by openbox9:But that provides one less thing to whine about on the front page. C'mon. AT&T having the customer-numb balls to put out a locked-down Android HAS TO BE FRONT-PAGE NEWS.
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Re: disgusting said by theeinstein:Its pretty sad that Google even allows it.. It proves that even they will bend over to the dollar! Google released Android as open source software, so it can be modified at will by anyone who wants to use it. So AT&T took Android, crippled the hell out of it, and handed it to Moto to load onto the Backflip. Google had no say in the matter. |
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 Nhatters
join:2004-01-24
Oklahoma City, OK | When will they learn? Good going, AT&T. |
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openbox9Premium
join:2004-01-26
japan
kudos:2 | reply to funchords
Re: hmmmm.... Is this sarcasm Robb? This post seems to contradict your response to sonicmerlin  below. AT&T has the choice to whatever it wishes with Android so long as it abides by the license. Admittedly, I know little about Android and the other Android offerings. Don't other Android devices need to be rooted to have full "open" access? Can this device not be rooted? |
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Many would probably buy thinking that it is open because that is all they know about the Android platform.
AT&T should have a warning that the phone is more akin to a Razr than a smartphone. |
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Re: Stuff said by sonicmerlin:Also I really, really wish SBC had never merged with AT&T. Let's be clear on something: SBC did not merge with AT&T. SBC bought AT&T lock, stock and barrel, and then changed their name to AT&T. The upshot being: The thing calling itself "AT&T" today is not, in reality, AT&T, but SBC re-branded.
And boy, does it ever show. I dealt with the real AT&T for, oh, about 20 years, before it was bought by SBC. It had its faults. It wasn't perfect. But it was a damn sight better than SBC in all respects, IMO.
AT&T, the real AT&T, is no more.
Jim |
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| Rings a certain familiarity Odd, this devices sounds just like another smartphone device.
I believe it was made by some company that uses a fruit as their symbol...but who cares about them  .
All sarcasm aside:
Here is the real kicker though - the more restrictions you put on a device or software the faster someone will figure a way around it. So, you pay your R&D, what - millions of dollars and a couple of years to cripple the phone when someone will turn around and remove the restrictions in probably a months time.
I don't think companies will ever get "it".
Don't think so? Do you think DRM has stopped piracy? The only thing piracy has done is prevent honest consumers from making copies for themselves. |
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