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Comments on news posted 2010-03-10 14:35:13: As we've been exploring, Verizon has all-but completed their first wave of FiOS deployment with the exception in major cities where they've recently signed franchise agreements. ..

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thevorpal

join:2007-11-16
Alexandria, VA

Verizon is annoying, but does have the better product.

I moved out of Alexandria and specifically into Springfield (about 2-3 miles down the road)

I needed a bigger house, and the major factor for me was "Can I get FIOS". Comcast's monopoly in Alexandria pissed me off.

That said, I think Verizon's policy of requiring a box for every single TV (which you cannot buy and MUST rent) is very annoying since their advertised prices don't include the rental. It isn't like 'taxes and fees' which vary, but that 100% without a doubt one of Verizon's boxes is required to be rented at a price set by verizon.

I filed a complaint with the FTC. Not sure if it helps, but I do that every time that the companies limit the channel selection and force me to rent a box from them.

(Verizon's box system is very convoluted, requiring both an internet connection along with the COAX signal, though the data connection goes over the coax if you haven't enabled your ethernet port. The point is, you don't even have the option to not use their boxes and use a cable card or your built in QAM decoder.)

IPPlanMan
Holy Cable Modem Batman

join:2000-09-20
Washington, DC
kudos:1

Theres always Google Fiber....

I guess there's always Google's Fiber Project...

DC is pushing hard for it as well...

»spreadsheets.google.com/viewform···hUdnc6MA

»thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-valle···-network
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unemployed

@myvzw.com

Hire the Laid Off Verizon workers to put in the FIOS

»www.forbes.com/2010/01/29/layoff···obs.html

Layoff Tracker
The Weekly Layoff Report: Verizon Cuts Thousands More
Paolo Turchioe, 01.29.10, 03:41 PM EST

Verizon ( VZ - news - people ) announced that it will cut
roughly 13,000 jobs in 2010. Verizon's mobile phone business has had unexpected gains recently, but the company has continued to lose subscribers for its traditional fixed-line business. Reporting its fourth-quarter results this week, the company fell short of analysts' expectations in both sales and new FiOS optic-cable Internet subscribers. The company took a onetime $3 billion charge in connection with the 17,000 jobs it eliminated last year.

PGHammer

join:2003-06-09
Accokeek, MD
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Re: Hire the Laid Off Verizon workers to put in the FIOS

The laid-off workers are those that specifically passed on *paid* cross-training as fiber technicians/installers (Tucker Road Wireline Center in Fort Washington, MD, which serves the Fort Washington, Silesia, Piscataway, and Clinton West central offices, is losing three copper-only technician positions, but gained four fiber technician/installer postions; oddly enough, they had to pull in an extra body, as Tucker Road didn't have anyone pass on the training). Those that are passing are listening to the CWA, which wants copper to stick around (understandable from a union POV, as copper is labor-intensive to maintain). Even though the COs served by Tucker Road are pretty much *fully passed* by FIOS, one other reason why Tucker Road needed the extra technician/installer is *crossover intalls*, where fiber replaces copper. Here at home, we have had issues with connectivity at the NID (copper); this sort of thing is, in fact, more common with copper than the CWA would admit (except to use it to drum up their call for VZ to keep the copper-only union members). From a *customer* POV, comparing copper unreliability vs. FTTP reliability (we're talking merely POTS here, not additional services), which would you prefer?

BSD24
Tier 4
Premium
join:2008-04-30
Middleboro, MA

running out of money

well verizon is spending alot in current locations, and a friend of mine thats a verizon engineer told me that verizon FIos is costing them too much money with unforseen issues that have come up and are costing way too much money.. I've heard rumors that Verizon is going to sell their residential lines including FIos lines and copper. I never realized that any type of ants would actually like to eat fiberoptic wires... poor Verizon.
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Alakar
Facts do not cease to exist when ignored

join:2001-03-23
Milwaukee, WI

Re: running out of money

Ding, Ding, Ding! This is really a dollars and cents issue. Verizon is not hitting even close to the return on investment they were hoping to with FIOS. So far they have spent buckets of money deploying this and are still looking at years before even breaking even. With the economy the way it is, they can't afford more deployments; the stock holders won't stand for it.

The unfortunate thing is the way they fight any municipal effort to wire a community.
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Mully

@comcast.net
I think one of those issues is maintenance. In some places where they ran FIOS to a customers home, the customer didn't want it but wanted to keeping the copper line they had. The government regulating body is making VZ keep both networks going. So they can't strip the copper out, which means costly maintenance issues going forward keeping both networks going. This may not be the case everywhere but I believe it has happened.

Plus a Comcast for instance, once it knows FIOS is coming to a neighborhood, will sign up customers for a long term contract at a special price, locking them in and FIOS out. Which is just good marketing.

telecom alum

@visi.com

No one to blame but themselves

The city had their chance to bring in FIOS, however preserving the historic charm of Alexandria was deemed more important. Now the FIOS music has stopped, they're left without a chair and none too happy about it.

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