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Comments on news posted 2010-03-12 10:16:49: Just a few days before the FCC is poised to introduce our first ever national broadband plan, the agency has launched a new java-based speed test application at the Broadband.gov website. ..

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Uncle Paul
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Boost

Wonder if their test will properly gauge the true speed of Comcast boost services?

Duramax08
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A step forward

Now to wait and see what happens with this info.

AMDUSER
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AMDUSER

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The test is inaccurate...

I tested my cable internet on it, and it said I had about 30 Meg (even though I only have 7 Meg Road Runner, but with Powerboost(tm).

If they want accurate, they are going to have to do something to mitigate the Powerboost to get the rated service speed.

pnh102
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Pointless

So now ISPs will simply optimize connections to that site so they can show higher speeds.

Meanwhile, things like unfees continue unabated.

Bill Dollar
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FCC's Obsession w Web2.0 continues

Wow. /s/ It is so awesome that the FCC has now decided instead of going out and collecting useful information in a scientific manner, and instead of forcing carriers to hand over good data, that they've now decided to crowdsource data collection. Man, if only the Census Bureau would follow their lead, we could ditch the whole program and put up a website instead. /s/

Another tools is great I guess, for those who for some reason are unable to locate any one of the hundreds of other similar tools. But this "data" won't provide much useful information, because it is flawed in numerous ways (i.e. powerboost, wifi interference, multiple users on a single line), and the sample is user self-selected. If the FCC actually tries to make policy based on this lazy data collection method, then they'll end up getting sued under the Data Quality Act.

Shamayim
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Dot gov?

I smell IP harvest.
KD4CVR
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Who is taking notes?

Ok call me paranoid , in the tool the first question is "Where are you accessing the internet? followed by "Current address where you are accessing the internet"??? Who is housing that information?
jus10
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Re: Dot gov?

Even if they were, to what end? They're just IPs of ISPs in the US. I'm sure if they wanted, they could get that list other ways.
mAlfunkti0n
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Re: Who is taking notes?

You are actually worried about this? Do you honestly think it would be difficult for them to gather the information on their own if they REALLY wanted to? They know who I am and where I live, and I am sure quite a bit more than that.

Your tin foil hat is getting larger ...

Z80A
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Re: Pointless

And inaccurate. This only shows how fast the the connection between their servers and that user, not actually what speeds the ISP is actually supplying them. I have a full T1 which gives me 1386kbps after overhead like clockwork and this test reported 800/900 with 200ms latency (actual local latency is in the teens). So are they going to use that data to claim what the speeds are here? This is like that lame telecom union site that was equally inaccurate by design so that they could claim the need for billions in gov't spending on infrastructure.

This test also doesn't indicate what is AVAILABLE to subscribers, only a weak indicator of what they are CHOOSING to buy. What is available is just as or more important than what people are choosing to buy.

A complete waste of taxpayer dollars. They could get far more complete data by browsing speetest.net's results.

powerspec88
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Its a bit slow..

Tested here at my place of work and its a bit slow. They need to beef up their servers a bit more. Dual fiber lines with a total speed of 750Mbps.

Karl Bode
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Re: Who is taking notes?

The government already knows where you live and what kind of cereal you eat. They don't need to harvest that info via the FCC website.

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Re: Its a bit slow..

Inaccurate test by design. Your work obviously needs $10M in porkulus to get those upload speeds up. Time to borrow against the credit of Joe Taxpayer.
MRCUR
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Re: Who is taking notes?

They already have that info... So yes, you're just a paranoid person.
mAlfunkti0n
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Re: Its a bit slow..

I love the JITTER test .. reminds me of old people doing the jitterbug.

OldschoolDSL
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Re: Pointless

said by pnh102:

So now ISPs will simply optimize connections to that site so they can show higher speeds.

Meanwhile, things like unfees continue unabated.
I believe it. I ran 4 test on that site and EVERY TIME my speed was as advertised (exactly as advertised).

HarleyYac
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Re: Boost

inaccurate. It states I have a 25/3 when I have 25/15. Also my fios tested on another site is 25/25 which is accurate.
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Re: Its a bit slow..

750Mbps
what's your upload speed supposed to be, 750 as well?

Mine was somewhat close @ work (12Mbps fiber), though there is some traffic going in/out right now.

Agree that harvesting speedtest.net results would be a good idea.
NeoandGeo
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Re: Boost

Mine said my connection was a 22/1 but I only have a 8/1
RX300
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FCC Still Defines Broadband As - Faster Than Dialup

I've got DSL and I don't have broadband. It is a 300k connection. Several years ago that was not bad. Now it sux. Forget about streaming anything. Even utube videos have to be paused. It takes over a minute to load the HBO page.
Like the title says, they still think broadband is anything faster than dialup and that's wrong.
I have done many speed tests and never gotten over 300. Tested at the FCC site just now. Guess my connection got 10% faster because they are telling me it is 330k now. WooHoo
This is as good as it gets because my IP says there are no plans to increase the bandwidth. Little Texas town with an independent telco that serves a population of less than 3000. There is no hope for anything faster.

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Re: Boost

wow.. I see nothing but "Pain" with this

thegeek
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Android App

I downloaded the mobile app for Android on my Moto Droid. The speeds are not accurate. Every time I run a test with the FCC app I then immediately run a test to the same server using the Speedtest.net app and it is slower. I've tried different servers and have ran the Speedtest.net app first and FCC second and FCC speeds are always higher.

xirian
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Doesn't finish

It stalls at 50% for me, must be overloaded. Last night when it worked it said I had 7mbit up, when I have 25 up. It also gave me the choice of m-labs at the end, but when I clicked begin on that test is redirected me back to the main test.

Ericthorn
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Re: The test is inaccurate...

Agreed - it's giving me about 2.7m down and any other test anywhere I go gives me less than 2m, usually in the 1.8m range which is accurate.

It wouldn't surprise me a bit if the carriers have some hand in this...

noworit
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another test they can manipulate

i just went to the site and tried the test and it would not work for me wonder, if verizon had anything to do with that,i tried 3 times.

Shamayim
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Re: Who is taking notes?

They might know what I had for breakfast but not where I live! Cereally though, they don't know all that much -- yet. That's what Census 2010 is for

jsimmons
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Unable to execute test....

The site must be overloaded. Took minutes to navigate to the Java test screen and was never presented any option to execute the test. Clearly still "Beta"

powerspec88
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Re: Its a bit slow..

Yes, 750Mbps up and down. We just got another ISP so you can add 200Mbps to that once we get BGP peering between our other two routers. I work at a data center btw. I just can't believe how slow it is, but then again, who knows how many users are trying to run the test right now.

AnonPerson
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Boost

Comcast and Time warner Boost are going to screw up the results quite a bit. Lets see if they find a way to overcome this.

guppy_fish
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Site is down

All it took was a couple of FIOS users to try the test to bring it down, First try I got to the part it was loading the java app and stalled/hung, now the entire site is down ... Our Tax dollars at work!
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