 pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium join:2002-05-02 Mount Airy, MD | Dump It quote: The bill could actually increase the cost of broadband and phone service.
This alone makes this plan a non-starter. You cannot make something more affordable by raising the price.
I hope all you people out there who were clammoring for central planning with regards to broadband are happy now, and will cheerfully pay this tax every month. -- "Net Neutrality" zealots - the people you can thank for your capped Internet service. |
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 | Anything but VZW I got a bill for $275 from Verizon Wireless this month because I went over the 5 GB limit. Give me anything but Verizon! |
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 | Actual Speeds "4 Mbps of actual download speed and 1 Mbps of actual upload speed" Actual is what people should get, not what AT&T dishes out that is less than you pay for. |
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 | Making Docsis 3 services cheaper Thanks for the write-up. Awesome.
Quick note about affordable high-speed plans from cable. Brian Santo at CED makes an interesting point in a recent article about the benefits for MSOs in seriously cutting fees for D3-enabled Internet tiers. In short, it costs a lot of money to get D3 up and running, but the cost to add subscribers is minimal. So far, interest in paying for the highest speed plans is minimal, so operators should cut fees to spur adoption and therefore a better revenue return. Makes sense to me. Cheaper D3 service = more people using it.
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 fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium join:2005-05-20 kudos:3 | reply to wahoospa
Re: Actual Speeds said by wahoospa:"4 Mbps of actual download speed and 1 Mbps of actual upload speed" Actual is what people should get, not what AT&T dishes out that is less than you pay for. ... I was gonna say... and besides, this will really invalidate many DSL connections as "broadband" anymore... I wonder what Qwest is gonna do now as they have a large amount of 1.5 connections.. and also, all the RT customers..
Further, DSL doesn't do 1 meg up.. so I guess it really puts DSL into a bad spot. |
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 pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium join:2002-05-02 Mount Airy, MD 1 edit | reply to Upstate NY
Re: Anything but VZW said by Upstate NY :
I got a bill for $275 from Verizon Wireless this month because I went over the 5 GB limit. Give me anything but Verizon! And under this plan you'll pay $276 to $285. Isn't that swell? -- "Net Neutrality" zealots - the people you can thank for your capped Internet service. |
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 netddosLife Goes On.. join:2001-08-28 Fullerton, CA 2 edits | A sad reality It's very sad that one of the world's most technical countries in the world cannot enact on a broadband infrastructure plan which can outdo Korea or Japan's....all because of 3 conglomerates (ATT Verizon Comcast)...
What have our country become? Congress has lost its function and heeds their head down to mega companies for filthy money.... -- ¡°Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.¡±-- Carl Sagan |
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 LegoPower77AbecedarianPremium join:2002-08-03 Midlothian, VA | Government panacea It always amazes me when the blogger talks about lack of competition. Monopoly/duopoly problems are caused by government regulations.
I'm not saying there shouldn't be rules of the road, but anything much beyond the enforcement of contracts is too far for the government and leads to the problem of the crony-capitalistic system we now have.
The other thing, from an economic standpoint, is that when we treat broadband as a public utility, while having some benefits, the costs are not talked about.
Those costs are higher prices through less efficient means of production (e.g., rates-of-return pricing causes the firm to hold on to older out-dated equipment longer), and less innovation (because profits are guaranteed through a regulatory board so why try to build a better mousetrap?).
Tell me what I'm missing. |
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 fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium join:2005-05-20 kudos:3 | Some issues: The FCC wants more competition in the set top box market: The FCC is pretty clearly annoyed with the industry's (and their own) failure with CableCARDs and starting on page 49 explains how the agency is going to push hard to end proprietary conditional access systems "on or before" December 31, 2012. In other words: they want more consumer choice in broadband-powered set tops that can access the Internet without carrier restrictions. Again, the devil will be in the details and whether TV operators want consumers to have access to their choice of completely open set tops (hint: they don't).
This is already possible.. has been ever since cable card became a hard mandate back July.. What the FCC or Congress should ALSO have enforced, more so than the cable company changes, they should have REQUIRED STB manufactures to sell them to the consumer as well.. Really, this would have been a no-brainer. While I don't think the consumer really is going to want to buy their own equipment for some time to come (price, quality, reliability,.. combined with paying service mirroring fees on top of the purchase, etc) this still could have been EASILY done...
Even tho Tivo and some televisions already allow for Cablecard, I assume this is directed towards OnDemand services.. |
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 | Of course it will be more expensive. "Government always finds a need for whatever money it gets."
"Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them."
"The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help." |
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| Starting out with bad suggestions.. can it get any worse? Well, I have a revision for the USF/subscriber line reform... First of all, if you have a broadband line and buy VOIP .. I don't think the FCC should be able to hit you with MULTIPLE fees and/or taxes.. it needs to be ONE fee and be under $5 a month for ALL (the less, the better).. and that's whether you have a combination of wireline/wireless services from the SAME carrier. This is my suggestion AFTER they tackle the issue of competition FIRST.
There is no doubt that 4/1 can be put into those "RED DOTS" relatively quick, but if the price is $50-$100 it's not affordable.. if it's $15-$25 it's reasonable WITH a VOIP line included. Don't care if it's wireline or wireless in the last mile.
I haven't read this in it's entirety.. but when we're talking about reform, the States seem to have their greedy little hands into the wireless/POTS pie with their tax & fee schemes as well.. once the infrastructure EVOLVES so to speak, how do you prevent the States from making that $15-$25 cost balloon into $50-$100 for 4/1 and a voip line? Keep in mind that I'm talking 2010 dollars and by 2020 the inflation could well make 15-25 be 50-100 by that time so we'd see $90-$125 in real inflationary dollars, while the rest are UPTO $200+ for internet, phone and video...
A POTS subscriber charge is anywhere between $5-$10 now and that's outrageously high. I'm very suspicious that once the fcc gets the authorization to RAISE your internet bills the states will want their share too and they will screw over VOIP as well and god help those STILL on POTS by 2020, you'll need a mortgage to pay the bill. Thinking of projected price hikes make me sick.. I'm still bracing for the ultra-high GASOLINE prices we're facing this summer!! |
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 roc5955Premium join:2005-11-26 Rosendale, NY | reply to Dagda1175
Re: Of course it will be more expensive. said by Dagda1175:"Government always finds a need for whatever money it gets." "Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them." "The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help." Quoting Ronald Regan I see. Perhaps you can tell me, why do people keep electing people who say that the government can do no good, then, when elected, proceed to prove it?
The government that you get, is only as good as the government that you elect. If you keep electing people who say that government is the problem, and then proceed to prove that government is the problem when they are elected, you will have the same problems.
We need election reform, to take the elections out of the hands of big corporations, and back to WE THE PEOPLE. -- "Understanding is a three-edged sword." |
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Re: A sad reality said by netddos:It's very sad that one of the world's most technical country in the world cannot enact on a broadband infrastructure plan which can outdo Korea or Japan's....all because of 3 conglomerates (ATT Verizon Comcast)... What have our country become? Congress has lost its function and heeds their head down to mega companies for filthy money.... Comparing a US infrastructure plan (3.79 million square miles) to Japan (145,840 square miles) and Korea (120,540 square miles) is flawed. Its not just the conglomerates either. -- My domain - Nightfall.net |
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Re: Anything but VZW said by pnh102:said by Upstate NY :
I got a bill for $275 from Verizon Wireless this month because I went over the 5 GB limit. Give me anything but Verizon! And under this plan you'll pay $276 to $285. Isn't that swell? get real.............. -- Would like a landline but wireless will work for now. |
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| A step in the right direction The first broadband plan wasn't going to be perfect. Far from it. This one has a lot of work to do. However, there are some good points to share. At least we have a plan in place and will work towards getting there. The infrastructure will be built and people who don't have these options now will have options later. I think that the general people here on DSLReports will not see this as a entire solution, but a step towards the goal. -- My domain - Nightfall.net |
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Re: Anything but VZW .... I stand corrected. |
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 LinklistPremium join:2002-03-03 Longport, NJ kudos:5 | said by jjeffeory:Again. this isn't an extra fee, it's the USF rebranded. No, the plan talks about adding another fee. Not just repurposing the USF. -- NCAA® March Madness on Demand® |
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 | A first step in the right direction But there's still NO REAL competition in many parts of the country. |
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 | Hit the Nail... I agree. They definitely layed up instead of going for the green. I would have liked to see them take a much bolder and stronger stance.
To me, they've already accomplished much of what they are asking for...so I guess it's another "mission accomplished." |
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