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kudos:2 | Verizon & Comcast.. .. delivering the speeds we need tomorrow, today.
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Columbia, PA | Re: Verizon & Comcast.. Completely agree! Comcast just upgraded my area to D3 and it's wonderful. | |
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join:2001-11-14
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| Re: Verizon & Comcast.. said by MRCUR:Completely agree! Comcast just upgraded my area to D3 and it's wonderful. How is 100mbps with a 250GB cap any better than 20mbps with a 250GB cap?
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join:2001-11-14
Katy, TX Reviews:
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| Re: Verizon & Comcast.. said by Ted Sheckler:My car can (legally) do 75 mph but i'm not gonna drive 55,800 miles in a month. Nice terrible analogy.
A car takes fuel per gallon based on mpg.
To compare internet to a car your car has to have a fixed cost.
You would have to be paying the same no matter how much you use it.
Also if you car has an autodrive feature, a fixed cost, and you had a use to let it drive that much then it would not be unreasonable to let your car go at 75mph and drive 55,800 miles in a month.
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join:2008-01-16
Chandler, AZ | Re: Verizon & Comcast.. said by Ted Sheckler:I could rent a car that allows unlimited mileage driven, then by your logic I should drive it at 75mph constantly, otherwise I'm not really getting unlimited mileage, am I? logical arguments have no affect on him. this is the same step that he trudges down every time.
his argument is that the speed is crippled by the cap, despite the fact that
(a) there have been numerous reports of users exceeding the cap (sometimes double or triple) with no worries from comcast and
(b) regardless of the speed, i don't use the full cap as it is
regardless of how the facts have been laid out, there is no acknowledgment of the words being read hit the synapses between the ears.
q.
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Why do you have a personal vendetta about the Comcast caps?
Comcast offers a solution where there are no caps, it's called a business connection.
I'm not a fan of caps either, but at least Comcast is giving options. | |
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join:2009-07-08
New Orleans, LA | It would be much better for me.
Just browsing the internet, downloading files, downloading vidoes/music, etc...
5x the speed would absolutely be a huge thing for me, 250 cap or not | |
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You don't necessarily consume more data but the data you do consume you don't have to wait for. | |
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join:2001-03-11
Yarmouth Port, MA
kudos:5 | Re: Verizon & Comcast.. said by moonfish:I have the 22 meg tier and I don't download much more than when I had 1.5 Mb DSL, but it sure makes a difference when I am downloading a game through Steam or a large patch. You don't necessarily consume more data but the data you do consume you don't have to wait for. That's why people upgrade, and that's why ISPs should upgrade. This appetite for videos and other large files raises the floor on slow networks, and the network is less bursty (flexible). A fast network corrects the problem while still serving the customers.
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| | | | | | | Good grief. "all you are doing is going to reach the cap quicker" type statements are as retarded as "FIRST!" posts in your favorite RPG forum. | |
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| | | | | | | said by r81984:For what? If you use 100mbps all you are doing is going to reach the cap quicker and you will not be able to use your connection as much. 100mbps with 250GB cap is not a 24/7 connection. A 250GB cap is a 768kbps average speed for 1 month. Correction there. You may reach your cap faster, however, it has no baring on how much data you download or upload. 100 Megabytes is still 100 Megabytes. Whether it's in three seconds or spanned over a minute. You're capped by the usage...whether it's used in one shot or not is up to you. | |
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kudos:1 | I'm disappointed it took until the 3rd post for someone to raise the usage limit, you guys are slacking. 
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join:2000-09-20
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kudos:1 | Re: Verizon & Comcast.. Exactly what I'd like to know.... | |
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join:2008-05-10
Sterling Heights, MI
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| Re: Verizon & Comcast.. Anyone that is running their computer 24/7 is pirating or running a business. If you have a job where you work from home, spring for the business class. If you just download bootleg copies of avatar, and porn when the wife isnt home, stop your kvetching. | |
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join:2001-03-11
Yarmouth Port, MA
kudos:5 | Re: Verizon & Comcast.. said by baineschile:Anyone that is running their computer 24/7 is pirating or running a business. If you have a job where you work from home, spring for the business class. If you just download bootleg copies of avatar, and porn when the wife isnt home, stop your kvetching. Actually, I run mine 24 hours a day and I'm not running a business and I'm not pirating.
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Camden, TN | Re: Verizon & Comcast.. said by funchords:said by baineschile:Anyone that is running their computer 24/7 is pirating or running a business. If you have a job where you work from home, spring for the business class. If you just download bootleg copies of avatar, and porn when the wife isnt home, stop your kvetching. Actually, I run mine 24 hours a day and I'm not running a business and I'm not pirating. What are you running 24/7 that is LEGAL and not a violation of your ISPs TOS? | |
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14 GB's this month so far... | |
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join:2004-07-11
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| said by funchords:said by baineschile:Anyone that is running their computer 24/7 is pirating or running a business. If you have a job where you work from home, spring for the business class. If you just download bootleg copies of avatar, and porn when the wife isnt home, stop your kvetching. Actually, I run mine 24 hours a day and I'm not running a business and I'm not pirating. Same here. 24/7 | |
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join:2000-09-20
Washington, DC
kudos:1 | Really?
What about Vudu, AppleTV, iTunes, Netflix Streaming... in HD no less.
Any of those for business use? Are they illegal? No.
And perhaps someone else in the house wants to watch a movie when you're done.... and this is aside from all the other usage.
I don't think you considered this completely....
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kudos:3 | said by baineschile:Anyone that is running their computer 24/7 is pirating or running a business. ... I think you meant to say "running their INTERNET CONNECTION 24/7"...? My "computers" all run 24/7... but they're not always going out the gateway 24/7... there's a difference and I think this is why you're getting the responses you are.
But, I would agree with you 98% if someone is running their connection 24/7, then they are very likely running a business or most likely participating in pirating. Either way, running 100% 24/7 isn't allowed by the AUP. | |
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join:2008-05-10
Sterling Heights, MI Reviews:
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1 edit | Re: Verizon & Comcast.. said by fiberguy:said by baineschile:Anyone that is running their computer 24/7 is pirating or running a business. ... I think you meant to say "running their INTERNET CONNECTION 24/7"...? My "computers" all run 24/7... but they're not always going out the gateway 24/7... there's a difference and I think this is why you're getting the responses you are. But, I would agree with you 98% if someone is running their connection 24/7, then they are very likely running a business or most likely participating in pirating. Either way, running 100% 24/7 isn't allowed by the AUP. Yes, that is what I meant, the connection. I leave 2 of my 3 computers on all day, but not downloading or uploading outside the network.
For those who use "more than the average bear"....250 gigs is still more than reasonable. If you are using Vudu, Hulu, PuPu, Itunes, or anything more, and consuming MORE than 8 gigs a day, you probably need some fresh air. | |
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Indianapolis, IN | Re: Verizon & Comcast.. That's not the problem today, that's been the problem since Adam and Eve. People trying to dictate how others should live. | |
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join:2008-05-10
Sterling Heights, MI Reviews:
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| said by jjeffeory:Sorry, it's not for you or anyone else to decide how much someone needs to be outside. Really. That's the problem these days. People are trying to tell other people what to do with their lives. youre right. its healthy to sit in front of a computer(s) and download as much as you can 23 hours a day. is your pillow near the wireless mouse? | |
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2 edits | Re: Verizon & Comcast.. Well you're probably right, that's still not the point! If I or anyone else wants to be healthy or not, it's not anyone else's business.
...and yea it is! 8-) Which pillow?
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| | | | | | | | | | | said by baineschile:said by fiberguy:said by baineschile:Anyone that is running their computer 24/7 is pirating or running a business. ... I think you meant to say "running their INTERNET CONNECTION 24/7"...? My "computers" all run 24/7... but they're not always going out the gateway 24/7... there's a difference and I think this is why you're getting the responses you are. But, I would agree with you 98% if someone is running their connection 24/7, then they are very likely running a business or most likely participating in pirating. Either way, running 100% 24/7 isn't allowed by the AUP. Yes, that is what I meant, the connection. I leave 2 of my 3 computers on all day, but not downloading or uploading outside the network. For those who use "more than the average bear"....250 gigs is still more than reasonable. If you are using Vudu, Hulu, PuPu, Itunes, or anything more, and consuming MORE than 8 gigs a day, you probably need some fresh air. While I download legally purchased porn on my computer on the patio, I have a lot of fresh air. Still seeing it as problem ? | |
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join:2004-11-02
Chico, CA | You are forgetting about those of us with VOIP who run our connections 24/7. | |
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join:2008-01-16
Chandler, AZ | Re: Verizon & Comcast.. said by baj475:You are forgetting about those of us with VOIP who run our connections 24/7. sip-ua registration uses very little bandwidth, and you're not on your phone all the time anyway.
q.
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| | | | | | | | | fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium
join:2005-05-20
kudos:3 | said by baj475:You are forgetting about those of us with VOIP who run our connections 24/7. You running it wide-open, maxed out speeds? or just little tiny bits of data here and there... in CONTEXT, we're talking about running a connection WIDE OPEN, MAX speeds... focus buddy.. | |
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join:2007-06-17
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1 edit | said by baj475:You are forgetting about those of us with VOIP who run our connections 24/7. About 1,603 minutes of VOIP calls is equal to 1GB of data, assuming that the u-law codec is used. Therefore, VOIP doesn't require a significant amount of data.
You can't use up 250GB, or even most of the 250GB, through VOIP alone. Not with even extremely heavy residential usage patterns. | |
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join:2004-11-02
Chico, CA Reviews:
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| Re: Verizon & Comcast.. I am a language nitpicker and have trouble resting the urge to blast, in good humor, under and over inclusive language.
fiberguy responded to baineschile who said “Anyone that is running their computer 24/7 is pirating or running a business.” Then fiberguy added “I think you meant to say ‘running their INTERNET CONNECTION 24/7'...? My ‘computers’ all run 24/7... but they’re not always going out the gateway 24/7... there’s a difference and I think this is why you’re getting the responses you are. ¶ But, I would agree with you 98% if someone is running their connection 24/7, then they are very likely running a business or most likely participating in pirating. Either way, running 100% 24/7 isn’t allowed by the AUP.”
The urge was just too great because, as I pointed out, neither of these statements is correct. 
As has been pointed out, being connected 24/7 does not make one a pirate nor does it establish that one is using his or her connection for business. As you point out, it also does not mean that one will even approach Comcast's cap. Generalities will get your nearly every time.
That said, I would love to upgrade my 16/2 connection to 50/10 if Comcast would offer it for $62/month. The convenience of the extra speed would be worth the difference between what I am now paying and $62, even though it would have little difference in the amount of data transmitted. | |
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1 edit | said by jlivingood:I'm disappointed it took until the 3rd post for someone to raise the usage limit, you guys are slacking.
At least they're talking of keeping the same cap. Our poor excuses for telecommunications infrastructure want to cut the cap from "unlimited" to anywhere from 60GB to 2GB., yet still keep the same price ---- with hefty overage use charges. | |
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join:2009-07-08
New Orleans, LA | Re: Verizon & Comcast.. said by jjeffeory:As soon as Fios comes to my neck of DC, you'll have several less people to be disappointed in! Good luck. I moved to Arlington TO GET FiOS because I was tired of waiting for it in DC | |
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Now that I've used Comcast for a couple of months in earnest ( have had it for a couple of years here, but am only now spending most of my times here), I'm really not too impressed with their total package. TV has been horrible compared to the others. The internet has been the redeeming experience, but not if they go to a hard cap. We're looking to go more and more online with our viewing habits with Vudu, AppleTV,Netflix, Boxee, Zinc, etc. Also, I'm taking a few classes online as well. Ugh.... | |
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join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 | Re: Verizon & Comcast.. Check your usage online and see how much data you really use. If the meter isn't there, Comcast pretty much doesn't care. If the meter's there, you'll probably be surprised at how low it is. | |
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join:2002-04-17
San Francisco, CA | Are you sure? "While nobody really needs those kinds of speeds (unless you work at say a Planetarium transmitting massive swaths of galaxy observation data), and many others won't be able to afford them -- at least they'll be there."
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join:2005-05-20
kudos:3 | Re: Are you sure? said by SLD:I didn't upgrade my home network to gigabit just for the fun of it. I'd really be able to use those speeds working from home! And you absolutely CAN!!! .. between your own LAN.. other than that, a 100MB network, considering the Internet in the mix, is perfectly fine for now... are ALL of your devices gigabit? (that is asking if you have more than just computers hooked up.. ie: cell phones, PS3, BluRay players that are internet capable, ... etc...) | |
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funchordsHelloPremium,MVM
join:2001-03-11
Yarmouth Port, MA
kudos:5 |  320 Mbps divided by ____ users = not 100 Mpbs
Newer DOCSIS chips support eight channels and 320 megabits down of shared bandwidth. So if I get 100 Mbps cable service, I only actually get those speeds as long as TWO or fewer other area subscribers are accessing their 100 Mbps service.
I'll bet that factoid doesn't appear in a rabbit commercial.
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join:2009-04-07
New York, NY | Re: 320 Mbps divided by ____ users = not 100 Mpbs and I'm sure they'll pack up those channels with as many customers as possible lol | |
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join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 Reviews:
·Comcast
| You should try using cable internet, specifically Comcast, sometime. In most cases (in mine and my friends' at least) they manage their oversubscription well enough that even during prime time everyone gets their rated speeds, plus a few Mbps of PowerBoost when surfing or downloading small files.
Comcast is currently running 100/15 service off of modems that can only bond four channels, for 152 Mbps of capacity. Yet they've got prices set so not too many people will sign up for the tier, and they've got the subscriber per node ratio down to where full speeds are attainable 24/7.
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join:2000-09-20
Washington, DC
kudos:1 | Cap makes it pointless That's right... it does...
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join:2002-01-07
Danbury, CT
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| DOCSIS 3 Delayed? Yeah and the other part of that article mentions that they will miss their goal of having everyone on DOCSIS 3 by 2010. I'm still waiting in my neck of the woods.
"Meanwhile, whereas Comcast had previously expected to deploy DOCSIS 3.0 to 100% of its footprint by the end of 2010, Avgiris said it may be 2011 until the remaining 25% of the operator's systems are upgraded. "We will do it as aggressively as we can... but certainly by the end of this year I don't think there will be a major market that will not have DOCSIS 3.0," she said."
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join:2006-01-24
New Albany, IN
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| Re: DOCSIS 3 Delayed? Insightbb still hasn't started there DOCSIS 3 and it should have started in January.
These cable companies just don't have the network for DOCSIS 3.
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join:2006-01-24
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| Re: DOCSIS 3 Delayed? said by caco:You mean InsightBB doesn't have the network for Docsis 3? More like bandwidth.
InsightBB is notorious for overselling there nodes.
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| Re: DOCSIS 3 Delayed? Yea im not surprised....I mentioned this last time this topic popped up as im still waiting to have my old Adelphia network upgraded so that I can get something better then 8mb. Was told it would be in the next few months a few months ago but now it looks like hope is lost once again.
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Sterling, VA Reviews:
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| Planetarium I think you mean Observatory. A planetarium is like a movie theater for the stars. I guess they could be receiving huge amounts of data but I don't think they'd be generating it.
As to the overall note, I agree with most folks that I don't care. The cap makes it pointless. I would rather an effort towards more economical internet service than pointless speed which really serves no purpose (literally since it can't serve anything).
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join:2002-09-28
Hoboken, NJ | 50 mbs service staying? I could swear that I just received a service letter update from Comcast this week with all their annual rate increases and a food note stating that they would no longer offer 50 mbs service to *new* subscribers after some date. Maybe I'm just loosing it. I didn't keep the letter.
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| | | Re: 50 mbs service staying? said by EJunky:I could swear that I just received a service letter update from Comcast this week with all their annual rate increases and a food note stating that they would no longer offer 50 mbs service to *new* subscribers after some date. Maybe I'm just loosing it. I didn't keep the letter. Did that "food" note mention anything about "all you can eat" plans??? | |
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join:2002-09-28
Hoboken, NJ | Re: 50 mbs service staying? Damn, I have lunch on my mind.
*foot note* | |
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| tshirtPremium,MVM
join:2004-07-11
Snohomish, WA
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| said by EJunky:I could swear that I just received a service letter update from Comcast this week with all their annual rate increases and a food note stating that they would no longer offer 50 mbs service to *new* subscribers after some date. Maybe I'm just loosing it. I didn't keep the letter. I'm a subscriber in Jersey City.
That's actually "Ultra" (22/5) that won't be sold to new subs as of April 1. (they are sort of blend ultra and performance plus into a single 20/4 plus PB (sold as 30/something, I think)
50/10 will still be there. | |
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| iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 | You're probably thinking of the Ultra (22/5) tier.
I'd be fine parting with Ultra if 50/10 went down in price a bit and 100/15 was launched... | |
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join:2004-09-07
Bellingham, WA | coming but only to areas currently served by FIOS The rest of you can just keep on wishing...  | |
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| cacoPremium
join:2005-03-10
Whittier, AK | Re: coming but only to areas currently served by FIOS Is Fios up in MINN. ? | |
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| | | | Re: coming but only to areas currently served by FIOS No, only Comcast and Qwest are in Twin Cities. We can get 50/10 from Comcast and 7/1 from Qwest in our suburb. | |
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1 edit | Can anyone say THROTTLE !!! As nice as it is in print and makes our mouths water and our eyes open wide we seem to forget that little bit corporate trickery hiding in the background. Just because they offer it does not mean you will get it. Lest I remind the forum that CAP that every one is talking about now, was not in place or even thought of until the $h!t hit the fan in Canada and Rogers started capping there cable internet customers at 60gb per mth. Although Comcast has a substantial usage amount over Rogers its still caped. Do you really think that rounded amount of 250 (Note the 50 is what Rogers originally came out with then raised it to 60) came out of thin air. Im sure Comcast will be ALL to willing to sell service of 100mbps ( at a premium price must I add) because the network can physically handle it but do you really think there actually going to let you run at 100 mbps all the time or as long as you want. Canada providers already do the same thing offering 5-25 mbps service but throttle you down to peanuts that would make ATT basic 768 package look good. Try and download a large file/movie 1-5gb and do it as often as once a day and watch the magic of throttling unfold, and kiss your wishfull 100mbps connection good bye. | |
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|  camaro92Question everythingPremium
join:2008-04-05
Westfield, MA | Re: Massachusetts 100/15 same here too, if you can pay they will give you the speed. | |
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| iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 Reviews:
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| Wait what? Info please? What's the price, what are the speeds and where can I find out more?
Betcha 100/15 would make one heckuva WISP backbone connection (and yes, they have no problem using biz class for that, particularly the higher tiers). | |
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capkingy
join:2003-06-06
North Kingstown, RI | re: Comcast Confirms 100 Mbps Is Coming I hope that would mean true instant on streaming movie and video streaming for Netflix and other vod services. Id also love to see better 1080p streaming quality. I checked out the new hbogo streaming service on verizon. It was impressive. Its still not perfect but great to see. | |
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| | Here is what ISPs have to do They have to upgrade their network so that whatever we are doing is considered bursty traffic. When we consume/create data, that data needs to traverse the network as fast as possible. When many customers start transferring large amount of data and that data takes a long time to complete, that is when ISPs get in trouble. Their business model is not designed for sustained throughput. It is designed for bursty traffic. | |
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| iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 Reviews:
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| Re: Here is what ISPs have to do Actually, the internet as we know it is designed for bursty traffic That's the way TCP/IP works. UDP is better for streams but, judging from my own WireShark tests and a networking class I'm in right now, TCP works best when it's transferring data as fast as the line will allow, and faster is always better. | |
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| | | Their business model--part of it anyway--is designed to limit your speeds so they can sell you faster speeds at higher prices. That's provisioning... and it's not about efficiency--for the network or the customer; it's about revenue. | |
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join:2001-01-25
Gainesville, GA | the idea is to switch to business and push down a few terrabytes a day with the new tiers | |
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| iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
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| Re: 100/15 is not 100Mbps Au contraire. If 100/15 if 15 Mbps with PowerBoost then it's worse than the 50 Mbps down, 10 Mbps up connection I had from Comcast awhile back. I could download a ggabyte file at ~56 Mbps on that connection, and PoewrBoost technically isn't allowed on there. Speed tests directly to the modem were 60 Mbps down, 20 Mbps up.
100/15 is the sustained speed, down (100) and up (15). I'd personally MUCH rather have 35/35 but I know of people that would rejoice at 100/15 at a reasonable price. | |
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| adapt these isp are adapting to our needs. once more people start using their connection more the isp will increase caps or lose customers.. people demanded faster speeds, and we are slowly getting it deployed. soon the people will demand increased caps.
rome wasnt built in a day.
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| Augustus IIIIf Only Rome Could See Us Now....
join:2001-01-25
Gainesville, GA | Re: adapt said by TongSama:these isp are adapting to our needs. once more people start using their connection more the isp will increase caps or lose customers.. people demanded faster speeds, and we are slowly getting it deployed. soon the people will demand increased caps. rome wasnt built in a day. Your post has one major flaw however. You are speaking as if caps have been around since forever? Wrong. They are just being implemented as an answer to higher speeds. Caps or speed. You cant have both in america, the land of.. cough.. corporatism. | |
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| Re: adapt caps is new because they didnt need it back then. they are trying to get rid of the small percent of customers that over use the service. yea they can upgrade and solve it all but that costs $$. what they are doing makes the perfect sense business wise..
i rather have a company that makes money and upgrade once in awhile than a company that goes all out on upgrades and bankrupts next month.
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| | | | | Re: adapt said by TongSama:caps is new because they didnt need it back then. they are trying to get rid of the small percent of customers that over use the service. yea they can upgrade and solve it all but that costs $$. what they are doing makes the perfect sense business wise.. i rather have a company that makes money and upgrade once in awhile than a company that goes all out on upgrades and bankrupts next month. They make more than enough money to upgrade their network to accommodate uncapped residential service. It costs them $8/customer/month to provide you service since their coax lines have all been paid off by now. | |
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| Take Note Take note Qwest (or any wimpy ISP's), if I could drop kick DSL in the face, I would. Good for Comcast/Verizon, they see the need.
Cathy Avgiris: "For a customer who wants to take advantage of that, we'll offer that to them."
Wow, what a difference a statement like that makes, as opposed to Qwest's: "People don't need a Rolls Royce..."
whatever...
Kudos to Cathy and Comcast. Now about those caps... | |
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| | No one thinks the price is nuts you get 35/35 from veriozon for $89. | |
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| iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 Reviews:
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| Comcast sells 50/10 business class for $190, right where Verizon has 50/20 FiOS. DOuble the speed, double the price. If Verizon had a 100 mbps tier for less than $370 you can bet that Comcast would lower to follow suit.
Personally I'd go for the FiOS but some people do more downloading than uploading by a large margin and would want that accelerated down speed... | |
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