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Comments on news posted 2010-06-01 12:08:30: As we recently noted, a new company by the name of the U.S. Copyright group is promising movie studios a new revenue stream. ..

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Harddrive
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Usenet...

so unless they send my Usenet provider a court document and then sift through all that to find me...

piss off to the (officially Government sounding [i'm sure they did that for a reason]) U.S. Copyright group.
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Skippy25

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reply to SLD

Re: A great feel bad film.

The underlying theme(s) of every movie is the same.

Love
Money
Greed
Good guy / bad guy

And there may be one or 2 more "themes", but they are all the same. The only difference is how they get there and what they show you to influence your feeling of that theme(s).

Saying it is not original material can be extended to virtually everything including games and music.


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Re: if twc wins this kinda suemall will be over

The law firm sending out the threats and demands is also threatening TW. One of their lawyers claims that by failing to give up the subscriber names fast enough, and explaining their limited ability to process thousands of requests at once, Time-Warner Cable is "inducing copyright infringement". ( »arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news ··· gers.ars )

This is copyright extremism and it's gone too far. We need laws to set higher standards for ISPs releasing customer data, and to provide some relief for people who are forced to pay even if they're innocent, because they can't afford lawyers.


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Whiners

That movie looked like it sucked!
It surely did suck at the Box Office and now the whiney bitch-punk-ass producers are crying like bitch-ass punk babies!
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ArrayList
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Re: Hurt what?

you are correct you can download without sharing.


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Re: haha

said by HoboJ:

The movie was actually pretty good.
yea, if you like war movies with no form of accuracy whatsoever.
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reply to Tom C

Re: Hurt what?

More like extortion.


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Hmmmm.....

The only way someone like me, who is not predisposed to think our soldiers are a bunch of rogue cowboys hellbent on revenge running outside the chains of command, would be to watch it is to download it. Now, the question with this action by the producers to criminally prosecute anyone who obtained the film "illegally" has to be this - when they won the Oscar they yakked about how important the film was and how important it was that people see it... ok, was it more important people saw the film or that they profited from people seeing? Seems like it's already been answered which dissolves the whole "important" part the movie is.
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US Copyright go die

This is so stupid. Finding more ways to sqeeze $ out of everyone. Such bullshit. Hope they eat poison and die. I am glad Timewarner is not bothering with the these idiots. Such a waste of time and money. I watched this movie in theaters when it came out and I am really surprised it beat Avatar. Hurt locker wasn't THAT great really. Avatar was better even though it was a "cartoon"....it really was something different.
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Lolz

HAHA! Look at this page: »www.copyrightsettlement.info/ind ··· x-3.html

Funny highlighted in BOLD

" * PROBLEM: ILLEGAL DOWNLOADS COSTS THE MOVIE INDUSTRY $20.5 BILLION EACH YEAR*. IN THE FIRST WEEK OF A DVD RELEASE THERE ARE MORE THAN 30,000 UNLAWFUL DOWNLOADS^.
* SOLUTION: THE US COPYRIGHT GROUP WILL ASSIST WITH COPYRIGHT INFRINGMENT
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It's nice that they're going to help us download the Hurt Locker

What a bunch of amateur hacks. Freaking ambulance chasers with a website is what they are.


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Re: Hurt what?

said by Karl Bode:

You know, the muppet that lives in a garbage can?
Whoa... they've been infringing on Sesame Street's trademark for all this time! SICK 'EM!
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greedy hacks

Looks like their 'evidence' would be flimsy at best. If someone hired a decent lawyer, the case would be thrown out before it came to trial. They're counting on none of their victims 'targets' having competent legal counsel.

It'd serve them right if one of their 'targets' with competent legal counsel filed a countersuit for harassment and malicious use of the civil court system and took them for a ton of money.

Want to stop piracy? Sell a quality product, online, for a reasonable cost [can you hear me, M$, Adobe, **AAs?] and get rid of the DRM. Otherwise the pirated product is not only cheaper, it's easier to use.

I don't support piracy, but I can understand why others would.


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URL...

well someone already registered uscopyrightgroup.com, so i took uscopyrightgroup.net.

anyone got any ideas for a website?
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Re: Hurt what?

said by ArrayList:

you are correct you can download without sharing.
It's better to keep that to yourself, the prosecution doesn't know that .


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Re: URL...

said by Harddrive:

well someone already registered uscopyrightgroup.com, so i took uscopyrightgroup.net.

anyone got any ideas for a website?
A link to all the major torrent sites.

That's it.
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Re: Hurt what?

Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences should strip the producers of the Hurt Locker for Best Picture. This movie does not worth seeing, Let along the .torrent file.


Harddrive
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Re: URL...

i was thinking of something like an anti-RIAA/MPAA site. but the links to the P2P sites might be an addition.
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RARPSL

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Re: Hurt what?

said by R4M0N:

said by RARPSL:

Since this is BitTorrent we are talking about, EVERYONE who is downloading it is also hosting those parts ("pieces") of the file that they have already downloaded. Only once you have finished downloading the full file do you go into full Hosting (AKA Seeding) Mode.
Not entirely accurate... You can download without sharing. At least you could back in the day when I tried it... I haven't used Bit Torrent in a few years now.
Unless you use a special hacked BT Client (which does not seed) the only time you are not going to share is when some of the peers you are connected to are Seeds and all the others in the pool either do not connect to you or already have the pieces you have. Under normal situations, you will share the pieces you have with any peer who asks you for them. The protocol is designed to have you share and the fact that you do not actually do so is dependant on what peers you are talking to and what pieces they want/need.

The point I was making is that you host the pieces (or the full file) and if asked you will supply them. The fact that due to the number of Seeds in the pool and the number of leaches (those peers who do not yet have the full file) you are not actually distributing pieces does not alter the fact that you are still hosting them.


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No one is going to jail

People. LISTEN. Absolutely no one is going to jail.

This is a CIVIL suit, not a criminal one. Anyone who decides not to pay up will most likely civil suit brought against them. This does not mean jail time of 1, 3, 5 years. That's not how it works.

I do feel bad for individuals with unsecured wireless networks. There's a lot of hooting and hollering that the burden of proof is on Copyright group to show that the account holder is the responsible party and not a "leecher". That's not how it works either. If you operate a wireless network in your home or business, you are responsible for the traffic (e.g. neighbors, customers, etc.) that filters in and out of it.

Protect your networks!!

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Re: Hurt what?

said by SixSpeed:

How do they know who "down loaded" it? Unless they hosted it themselves for distribution, I'm not sure they can catch the D/L'ers, just the hosters.

Hurt Locker failed because nobody wanted to see it, not because of piracy. Plenty of movies still break records in the "piracy" age.
I'm going to assume they send a letter to the person who owns the account that was using the IP address at the time they found it delivering their movie via a file sharing service.

Personally, I'd like to see a warning or two sent before going for damages. At the same time, even a movie like "The Hurt Locker" is entitled to copyright protection.

The other day a friend demonstrated a P2P client installed on his android phone, he said it was great he listed the song or movie he wanted and eventually it would arrive.

At some point copyright owners are entitled to enforce their property rights. Anyone who won't pay $.99 to download a song or $9 a month to subscribe to Netflix and legally get tons of content probably should be concerned about the potential for litigation.

Many people casually violate copyright without thinking about it. IMO that is as wrong as these vultures sending out threats to mostly hapless moms and dads of teens, or worse someone running a router with the SSID "linksys". I think the wireless standard should require wireless off on all routers, and a random password to be set on initial activation unless the user overrides.
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tmc8080

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the movie sucks anyway

save the toilet paper lawsuit for something worth watching.


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Re: Hurt what?

It won best picture at the Oscars, along with 5 other Oscars, which is funny because no one had ever heard of it, let alone seen it. I watched it after the Oscars, just to see what it was all about. It was okay. I give it 4/10.

SixSpeed

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Their website is a disaster

Did anyone visit the US Copyright Corp's web site? Its a disaster, with broken and "go nowhere" links, errant characters in the sites text, non working anchor points and an overall quickly thrown together feel to it.

This is the organization that has all this technological savvy?


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Re: Hurt what?

said by Z80A:

Avatar should have won best picture.
I feel asleep a couple of times in the theater.

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Re: if twc wins this kinda suemall will be over

ISPs should flat out refuse to give up information without a court order. that or IP requests due to copyright without a court order will require a $200,000 research fee.

and then the laws should be changed so that people cannot be sued in a courthouse that is not with in 1hr driving distance from their home. heck kick it up a notch, also make the court order have to be local to the ISP. even if its small WISP they would then have to goto the court local to that WISP.
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Re: A great feel bad film.

Avatar did what Movies are supposed to do, it entertained a whole lot of people. people goto films to be taken away to another world for a few hours.

Hurt Locker well it could have been done on the History Channel.

BTW, WALL-E should have won last year's best picture but was not even nominated even though it was far better then anything that was up to bat.

UP was Snubbed in the 2010 Oscars, i doubt anyone could claim HL was better then UP.
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skuv

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Re: Meh..

said by axiomatic:

All this director has really done is make the movie studios aware that he is a legal liability. If you were a large movie studio would you want to work with a director that you knew was going to tie you up in multiple lawsuits that usually do not turn out to make a profit from those that you sue?
The director DIRECTS the movie. The director doesn't produce or distribute the film.


skuv

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Re: Evidence

said by AlexNYC:

Their evidence seems shady at best. I don't think anyone would be actually get sued over this. I hope it gets thrown out of court as a frivolous lawsuit.
It can only be thrown out of court if it makes it to court.

Their hope is that no one will hire a lawyer and will settle all of this out of court. And in every case, this will probably be done. Threaten someone with a $5000 lawsuit, and ask them to settle, and most people will be scared into it, especially if a lawyer tells them that their fee is at least $2500, and you can still lose and owe the $5000, plus your own legal fees, and probably the legal fees of who sued you.


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Re: greedy hacks

said by DrStrange:

Looks like their 'evidence' would be flimsy at best. If someone hired a decent lawyer, the case would be thrown out before it came to trial. They're counting on none of their victims 'targets' having competent legal counsel.

It'd serve them right if one of their 'targets' with competent legal counsel filed a countersuit for harassment and malicious use of the civil court system and took them for a ton of money.
That 'target' better have deep pockets to pay for that 'competent' legal counsel. Most joe blows don't have them. Hence most will settle or just file bankruptcy.