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Comments on news posted 2010-06-14 09:41:30: Bresnan Communications (see our user reviews) received a significant amount of interest from a number of large companies during recent bidding for the carrier, including Cablevision, Charter Communications and Suddenlink. ..


NY Tel
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Competition

Is a good thing. Perhaps CV will shake things up in that market and stimulate some good services for the consumers.

IowaMan
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Grinnell, IA

Re: Competition

Someone Please buy Mediacom and give us great customer service and expand next-gen internet for the people of Iowa

hayabusa3303
Over 200 mph
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Re: Competition

Better hope Tw or comcast are not looking at it.
iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Austin, TX
kudos:2

Re: Competition

What's the problem with Comcast again?
sonicmerlin

join:2009-05-24
Cleveland, OH
kudos:1

Re: Competition

the cap
hottboiinnc
ME

join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH

Re: Competition

And the people on here asked for a cap. Ask and you shall receive.
iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Austin, TX
kudos:2
Two words: Business Class.

Anything else?
BosstonesOwn

join:2002-12-15
Wakefield, MA

Re: Competition

Over priced ?

Same service ?

You see my point here I hope.
iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Austin, TX
kudos:2

Re: Competition

Overpriced compared to ?

Same service as ?
talz13

join:2006-03-15
Avon, OH

Re: Competition

said by iansltx:

Overpriced compared to residential service.

Same service as residential service.
Fixed that. Only difference is the cap, which they don't need. At least it's a 250gb cap instead of 2gb...

odog
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Bresnan was a smart business man

Interesting. I wouldn't have expected cablevision to buy such a remote market with such geographically spread out and unclustered systems.

They're a smart company they must have their reasons!

On another topic, this is further proof that Bill Bresnan was a smart business man. He turned a profit on the sale and probably made a profit most of the years he owned those systems.

FFH5
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Comcast owns 30% of Bresnan

Much of what Cablevision will be buying was actually owned by Comcast and spun off to Bresnan because the local properties weren't contiguous to the main Comcast plant. As part of that deal, Comcast maintained a 30% ownership in Bresnan. »www.cedmagazine.com/comcast-to-u···ems.aspx

Funny how things go. Comcast dumps the systems and now Cablevision is buying them. Doesn't make sense to me that Cablevision is buying local systems so far flung from their main cable plant. Sounds like a major fail situation to me.
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hottboiinnc
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join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH

Re: Comcast owns 30% of Bresnan

they have something up their sleeves other wise they would not never made the deal. Maybe they have some plans to become a nationwide provider after all? And this is just the first steps of becoming one.

I wonder which cable company will be next? Charter? MediaCom? Suddenlink? WindJammer?
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patcat88

join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
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Re: Comcast owns 30% of Bresnan

Its Dolan's backup plan if CV Tri State declares bankruptcy because of FIOS. There is a 100% guarantee there will be no Telco FTTH in Montana. Dolan also has has his media channels/sports investments. I dont think CV will brand integrate Bresnan anytime soon.
hottboiinnc
ME

join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH

Re: Comcast owns 30% of Bresnan

i don't see CV filing bankruptcy.
Quento21

join:2007-09-28
Laurel, MT
actually patcat the little town of laurel (where i live) is getting 20/2 fiber from Lightnex which serves parts of Billings and Bozeman right now, so yeah we already have fiber, do research before you go stating "facts". They are suppose to start working on installing lines sometime later this year.
meowmeow

join:2003-07-26
Helena, MT
CenturyHell offers FTTH in portions of the Kalispell market. Exactly where, I don't know. Just that they list pricing for it and I've heard it's in brand-new developments. They're just doing fiber INSTEAD of copper, no overlaying at all though.

Chris 313
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said by FFH5:

Much of what Cablevision will be buying was actually owned by Comcast and spun off to Bresnan because the local properties weren't contiguous to the main Comcast plant. As part of that deal, Comcast maintained a 30% ownership in Bresnan. »www.cedmagazine.com/comcast-to-u···ems.aspx

Funny how things go. Comcast dumps the systems and now Cablevision is buying them. Doesn't make sense to me that Cablevision is buying local systems so far flung from their main cable plant. Sounds like a major fail situation to me.
Yeah, and in a few years, watch Comcast buy Cablevision and get those Bresnan systems back
hottboiinnc
ME

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Cleveland, OH

Re: Comcast owns 30% of Bresnan

doubt it. The Dolan's are going to sell that easy to Comcast. Especially when nobody knows what the logoic is behind the purchase.
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iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Austin, TX
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Re: Bresnan was a smart business man

I' scratching my head here as well.

Maybe CV is buying because they'd like to go into a market without rip-roaring, cut-throat competition for a change?

Shamayim
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Is this the same Bill Bresnan who used to host a financial radio show?
nonymous
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Glendale, AZ

Not Qwest, Centurylink

Qwest from day one was just a leech on the old US West Ma Bell designed to leech all of the old RBOC assets and put them in managements pockets before this final sale to Centurylink.
tmc8080

join:2004-04-24
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when the going gets tough...

when the going gets tough (aka Verizon digital voice), the tough find more ways to buy tax writeoffs.

Now Verizon can offer a $90-$99 deal inclusive of fees, and eliminate most (if not all) Digital Voice fees and provide an apples to apples... Cablevision must cut prices or else... upgrade service. I thought this move was at least another 4-10 years out by Verizon-- once they sold off all unprofitables and unloaded billions more.

Perhaps it's a public relations thing.. Cablevision is expanding their footprint, whilest Verizon is cutting theirs. It's also a given that Verizon had/has a HUGE footprint to begin with.

I bet at&t is very unhappy with all that economic turmOIL in the south usa.. that means less business in their newly purchased Bell South investment.. boo hoo.
hottboiinnc
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Cleveland, OH

Re: when the going gets tough...

VZ isn't going to cut fees. They make $$$$ of those "unfees". It's pure profit for them to charge you all the fees on landlines.

Digital Voice is just a new service they can offer over the FiOS and that will be about it.
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NY Tel
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Maybe Verizon will:

1. Sell off non-profitable markets
2. Cutback FiOS rollout for a while
3. Eventually buy Cablevision

Think about it!
hottboiinnc
ME

join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH

Re: when the going gets tough...

we had that happen before. But instead the Telco actually built out as an over builder. Remember AmeriCast? Which is now WOW? It was Ameritech's baby until SBC came along and sold the markets and WOW took over and rebuilt again just a few years later.

On the other hand Cinci Bell bought an overbuilder MSO a few years back.
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patcat88

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said by NY Tel:

Maybe Verizon will:

1. Sell off non-profitable markets
2. Cutback FiOS rollout for a while
3. Eventually buy Cablevision

Think about it!
No, HFC is obsolete. CV might be worthwhile to buy it for its Lightpath Business fiber division, to get rid of its lowball prices (as compared to ILEC SLA fiber). Theres also anti-trust regulations, you have to maintain the illusion of competition.
hottboiinnc
ME

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Cleveland, OH

Re: when the going gets tough...

HFC is FAR from obsolete! Where do people come up with this information at?

HFC has far more power left than people realize. But of course everyone one here wants FiOS or FTTH when Cable still has YEARS and YEARS left. The only FTTN that is obsolete is U-Verse.
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patcat88

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Re: when the going gets tough...

said by hottboiinnc:

HFC is FAR from obsolete! Where do people come up with this information at?
1 Fiber = 10 gbps*80 lambas = 800 gbps today in commercial world
1 coax = 38 mbps [qam 256] *(870/6) = 5.5 gbps

now to be fair, lets upgrade HFC to bleeding edge specs that nobody has deployed
1 coax = 53 mbps [qam 1024]*(1000[mhz]/6) = 8.8 gbps

commercialized fiber available today is 2 orders of magnitude more bandwidth than the best idealized vaporware HFC speed
hottboiinnc
ME

join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH

Re: when the going gets tough...

have you heard of DOCSIS 3 and node splitting?? which proves that HFC is NOT obsolete. There is room for MSOs to grow on that network and they will. Look at Comcast and the speeds they're pushing out. VZ just started pushing out those speeds and had to build out a complete new network to even thing about it due to their copper only being able to hold only maybe 3megs down. Cable is up to what? 100+ megs with just a simple upgrade in the CMTS node split and new modem. And when the time is right they can deploy FTTH in just a under 2 years to their entire footprint unlike VZ and ATT.

It does sound like you've been drinking the VZ koolaid though.
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patcat88

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Jamaica, NY
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Re: when the going gets tough...

800 gbps today > 8 gbps vaporware

I'm done here.
hottboiinnc
ME

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Re: when the going gets tough...

vaporware? LMAO! WTFE! Go lobby some more for VZ.
iansltx

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How does this make sense?

I could understand Suddenlink buying Bresnan because that's what they do (rural cable systems, which they then build up to the point that they're better than telco alternatives in the area). However Cablevision is an urban operator that's used to working with advanced technology, N+0 plant and heavy competition from FiOS where FiOS is available.

Then this?!?

••••

Simba7
I Void Warranties

join:2003-03-24
Billings, MT

WHAT!!!???!!!??!

When the heck did this happen? I thought they were just looking into it, not actually selling the company.

Looks like I was right. When Bill died, they wanted to ditch the company ASAP.

I wonder what's going to happen to the call centers now. Are they going to have magnitudes more workload or are they going to start killing them off. I hope things stay the same.
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M A R S
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Re: WHAT!!!???!!!??!

said by Simba7:

When the heck did this happen? I thought they were just looking into it, not actually selling the company.

Looks like I was right. When Bill died, they wanted to ditch the company ASAP.

I wonder what's going to happen to the call centers now. Are they going to have magnitudes more workload or are they going to start killing them off. I hope things stay the same.
I'm sure CV has more people calling them in one day then live in the entire sate of Montana..
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koolkid1563
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join:2005-11-06
Powell, WY

OOL Ultra?

Wonder if OOL will bring their Ultra tier to those Bresnan markets that have a D3 CMTS? With Bresnan getting peering arrangements with L3 and 10Gb/s backhaul links to most markets they might be able to. Will be an interesting next couple of months (year?) depending on how long it will take for everything to transition over.
hottboiinnc
ME

join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH

Re: OOL Ultra?

CV may have already started intergrating or has a plan. I wouldn't be suprised if they don't have something going to their data center in NY though so that may take time unless they talk to L3.
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waiting4fios

join:2005-04-08
Howell, NJ

possible cable swap down the road?

Like most comments, this purchase by Cablevision doesn't seem to make sense, so there might be some ulterior motive.

My guess is that they buy these systems, and then maybe swap them with another cable company down the road. I don't know who the major players are out there, but perhaps CV wants them to then offer them to Comcast in exchange for some areas in NJ that border Cablevision's current footprint.
hottboiinnc
ME

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Re: possible cable swap down the road?

they used to be Comcast systems. Comcast doesn't want them back. This is a great way for CV to become nationwide.
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Karunamon

join:2010-06-16
Casper, WY
said by waiting4fios:

I don't know who the major players are out there, but perhaps CV wants them to then offer them to Comcast in exchange for some areas in NJ that border Cablevision's current footprint.
Dear god, I hope not. I used to do callcenter for Comcast.. you couldn't pay me to use their service.

That said, Bresnan's service is okay around here (central WY) but their CS and billing departments absolutely suck.

Paladin
Sage of the light

join:2001-08-17
Chester, IL

Buy out New Wave Communications

Dear Cablevision,

Buy out New Wave Communications. They are my local provider.

Love,

Paladin
bm10k

join:2010-06-16
Missoula, MT

Re: Rebranding

So does CV plan on rebranding
Bresnan as Optimum
Quento21

join:2007-09-28
Laurel, MT

What about Laurel?!

i'm just hoping that if this deal goes through well and decide to buy out Cable Montana/USA Digital (my isp) as well since my isp is technically Bresnan, i have to go through the Billings servers in order to get to the internet. I literally have the same hops as most Billings subscribers besides the first 2 hops which are my isp.

Tracing route to google.com [74.125.127.103]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 8 ms 7 ms 8 ms 10.70.0.1
2 9 ms 21 ms 11 ms 24-72-200-1.static.cablemt.net [24.72.200.1]
3 12 ms 10 ms 12 ms blnmtfh1hb7-GE-0-0-0-U220.int.bresnan.net [69.14
4.126.221]
4 15 ms 12 ms 13 ms blnmtfh1cr5-GE-3-0-5-U0.int.bresnan.net [72.175.
110.54]
5 19 ms 18 ms 17 ms mslmt001cr5-XE-5-3-0-U0.int.bresnan.net [72.175.
110.75]
6 30 ms 32 ms 33 ms seawafh1tr5-XE-5-3-0-U0.int.bresnan.net [72.175.
111.23]
7 33 ms 31 ms 34 ms 12.90.77.17
8 37 ms 31 ms 32 ms cr1.st6wa.ip.att.net [12.123.46.6]
9 37 ms 34 ms 33 ms 12.122.146.153
10 32 ms 32 ms 34 ms 12.89.209.14
11 33 ms 31 ms 32 ms 209.85.249.32
12 44 ms 44 ms 39 ms 72.14.239.12
13 41 ms 38 ms 39 ms 64.233.174.127
14 49 ms 55 ms 39 ms 64.233.174.97
15 42 ms 39 ms 40 ms pz-in-f103.1e100.net [74.125.127.103]

Trace complete.

I think i should be seeing the option to boost my speed soon since i've been stuck with the same 5/384 connection for the past 4 or 5 years.