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 |  BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | Re: What unlimited plan??? said by VZWunlimated :
VZW only has plans with caps, they always have.
Their data connect plans are cap at 5 GB, thier cell phone only data plans are unlimited. | |
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| Please, can we start a Cap war! ATT- 2G Cap
Verizon- 5Gig Cap
6months later
ATT announces 5GIG Cap
VZW still at 5Gig.
6 Months after that:
VZW raises Cap to 10GIG, announces 200 markets running 4G/LTE at 10Mbs/3Mbs
ATT still at 5Gig.
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1 edit | hmm I wonder if they'll do this with aircards as well, I guess eventually they will, the amount of greed never seems to amaze me in this country. Well good luck to them & this idiotic plan. They certainly will not be getting any of my business. Here is to you verizon and At&t  | |
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BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | If Verizon had 20 GB-30 GB caps as is suggested that can be done then I think most people would be ok with that as long as overages also come down.
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Two of the best engineers in the U.S. tell me wireless congestion can be almost eliminated except at Katrina type emergencies with 5 and 10 gigabyte caps. Models from Adtran suggest 20-30 gig caps (or higher) are practical in the LTE generation.
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|  AlcoholPremium
join:2003-05-26
Climax, MI
kudos:3
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| Re: If Verizon had 20 GB-30 GB caps said by BF69:as is suggested that can be done then I think most people would be ok with that as long as overages also come down. quote:
Two of the best engineers in the U.S. tell me wireless congestion can be almost eliminated except at Katrina type emergencies with 5 and 10 gigabyte caps. Models from Adtran suggest 20-30 gig caps (or higher) are practical in the LTE generation.
They wouldn't introduce caps in the first place if it was 20-30gb. It's just bad PR for something that will affect less than .1% of their customer base.
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| | BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | Re: If Verizon had 20 GB-30 GB caps said by Alcohol:said by BF69:as is suggested that can be done then I think most people would be ok with that as long as overages also come down. quote:
Two of the best engineers in the U.S. tell me wireless congestion can be almost eliminated except at Katrina type emergencies with 5 and 10 gigabyte caps. Models from Adtran suggest 20-30 gig caps (or higher) are practical in the LTE generation.
They wouldn't introduce caps in the first place if it was 20-30gb. It's just bad PR for something that will affect less than .1% of their customer base. How do you know that? Were talking 2013 here. 3 years ago at&t's 200 MB cap for "light use" would have been considered HEAVY use. | |
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| fundamentals the wireless spectrum is finite--meaning there are only so many bits each segment of the wireless last mile can serve. since the cable industry has gone out of their way to start bricking up the walled garden that is cablemodem bandwidth, telcos can follow suit.
now you know there isn't much incentive to stick with a fancy post paid account. why should you show these wireless carriers loyalty. own a prepaid handset from each carrier and switch off between them-- spread the money around! | |
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 KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK
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| Greed is the downfall of America Everything, I mean everything is about the $$$$.
It's our God. God is way a distant second behind the Worshippers of the Almighty Dollar.
For the sake of investors? Well, it would appear to me that more customers is good for profits which is good for investors! But, that's so old School, please forgive me.
Ah, the good old lack of competition market. Gotta love it.
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| | | Re: Greed is the downfall of America quote:
Ah, the good old lack of competition market. Gotta love it.
Competition is not the answer; it doesn't guarantee or require lower prices.
Why would I charge less when I know people are willing to pay the high rates of my competitors? If everyone is willing to pay $30 for data, what is my incentive to charge $25 and take $5 less profit when I know they will pay $30? | |
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| | KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK Reviews:
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| Re: Greed is the downfall of America Ah. The desire to get more customers, of course.
Ask yourself. Would you prefer to have 1,000,000 customers that you make $15 dollars a month profit on, or 5,000,000 customers that you make $10 a month in profits on?
Lower margin, but greater volume.
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| | caps, Why do they even have plans or caps? I think the best thing they can do if they really want to free up their networks would be to allow people who don't want the service to block it. Don't require people to buy it. Then do away with all the plans and charge per MB of data. Download as little or as much as you want for .01 cent a MB. That's roughly $10.00 a gb. Completely fair for a high speed mobile broadband service. And you'll be thinking about how much you download because you really can save money.
I have tried as hard as a human being can to get the local cable company and at$t to expand their land line broadband service to my area, about a mile, populated area, with willing customers, and they will not do it. So they could do that too. Most of the people who use a lot of wireless data do it because that's all they have. I mean who would pay $60 dollars a month for 1.5 mbps download speed, with a 5 gb cap, if they could get cable or dsl?
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| Re: caps, Verizon and AT&T need to have the same thing done to them that was done to ma'bell back in the 80's. They've been allowed to grow too big and now they're stifling innovation. Hell i remember back in '02-'03 when the old AT&T Wireless had UMTS already rolled out in Phoenix, they had a plan to cover their entire network in it, but as soon as Cingular bought them out that got botched and now look where we are, Cingular/AT&T has 1/3 (if that?) the 3G coverage that Verizon has and still manages to rip off customers on a daily basis and make the most profit doing it.
I am sorry but these caps are a clear indication of poor network management, because as people keep going on about the "finite" resource of data they also forget to realize that if at&t would just do a simple fiber and HSPA+ upgrade at these heavily used sites, they'd solve 95% of their issues in the congested areas like central NY and such considering HSPA+ would provide the extra capacity (in the same space) and the fiber would back it up.
Also, one reason why at&t's customers dont use so much data is because a majority of them are left in EDGE coverage areas, hell if i had about dial up performance out of my phone (and trust me EDGE is because of it's terrible ~600ms latency) i wouldnt want to use my data network either.
I personally have T-Mobile because every where i've ever traveled (and i drive between AZ, OH, Texas, and FL a couple of times a year) they either work natively or have a roaming agreement with a regional carrier to provide my service, so i rarely if ever have any issues, have unlimited data (that's about 3mbps in phoenix, but has been higer or lower in other parts) and still pay less than the sap on at&t with the $15 data plan and text messaging, and i get all i can eat. | |
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| |  RolteC0h
join:2001-05-20
Fresh Meadows, NY
kudos:1 | Its all about the $$$$$$$ and the future They are in it to win it, and if following suit means the posibility of extra money/less bandwidth hogs, then they will do it.
On top of that, when a iPhone 4S comes in before the end of the year that will support Verizon as a carrier, people will want to flock over and they do NOT want there network getting abused to hell without knowing they will be compensated for it by the same customers joining it.
I mean all Im saying it just what I think/rumor. But lets see what happens  | |
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| Re: Its all about the $$$$$$$ and the future oh i doubt VZW will be getting any iPhone soon, that's been going on for years, and apple has no reason to completely re-design the iPhone just for Verizon.
Verizon has proven time and time again that they dont need the iPhone to make it, and they do not seem all that worried about it. | |
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| | I wonder how this will work out I have been a customer of VZW since the GTE days and I have a "plan" that says i don't have to change if I don't want to. I wonder how VZW will handle people like me. Sounds like a legal issue to me. | |
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| stridr69
join:2003-05-19
San Luis Obispo, CA
1 edit | Re: I wonder how this will work out I have the old Nationwide450 plan which gives me unlimited data, VCast, VZ Nav, SMS, MMS, ESPN for 85 bucks a month.
I ain't changing THIS plan...EVER! Currently using an enV3.
Oh yeah...have the NFL network live 24/7 now too. Remember that Sprint USED to have that. Not anymore.... | |
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I just canceled my service with them and ate the ETF. During the cancellation process, I told them why I was leaving them. If you are offended by this, I suggest you do the same. | |
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4 edits | I have 6usable static IP's onmy home dsl and Texting is good How can I build a linux server to put voip networks and offer sms via handheld wi-fi network.
I already know how to secure my network just get the know-how on the server/application to handle text messaging. I prefer Debian or *buntu. I can find the money to finance the app and servers.
This is the only way they (Telco's) will realize that "nickle and diming consumer" is REALLY a bad thing.
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Ants are better in communicating! They cover long distance without bribing anybody in their colony. | |
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| wait for it.. watch demand for the services PLUMMET...
when you walk by those kiosks in the mall, at your local electronics stores and the poorly paid sales person tries to woo you into signing up.. tell them exactly what you think about their crap plans, and don't be soft spoken.. say it LOUD AND PROUD so at least 6-12 people in the vicinity can hear you!! | |
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 DryvlyneFar Beyond DrivenPremium
join:2004-08-30
Newark, OH | Speak with your wallet people I recently considered upgrading to a so-called "smartphone", but decided against it because I simply can't justify the expense. If more consumers simply realized the true cost for these companies to provide such services they too would realize how much they are being ripped off. Unless you have a true business need for a "smartphone" then suck it up and tell companies like AT&T and Verizon to stick it until they offer more reasonably priced plans.
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| | scams The whole smart phone thing is just a scam. Look at the Iphone and the Ipod touch. Both are pretty much the same thing except you should be able to use one as a phone. But a Iphone cost $600 and the itouch cost $200 theres about. Unless you you get a Iphone under contract then it's about $200. Strange right? | |
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| | Unlimeted Plans? Where is my unlimited electric plan?
Actually, unlimited plans cost most people more. Apartments & Condos that include electric & water are a good example. Only a few that are really heavy users are getting a deal from the rest. | |
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| | Glad I am with Sprint. Come to Sprint guys......UNLIMITED!! | |
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| | My experience with Sprint Since 2008 Sprint really worked hard to improve customer service. I think its a close match with T-Mobile as the best customer service in mobile communication. In terms of cost, T-Mobile and Sprint edge over each other in different areas but they are the best major providers in terms of cost. I see MetroPCS able to compete with T-Mobile in voice but if I want a smart phone I'm going with Sprint. If you make a lot of mobile calls then Sprint's anytime and anywhere plan with unlimited data sets the standard. Sprint's data service is top notch; Verizon is second here and ATT is just terrible. | |
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| | Wireless caps screw rural folks hard, you know I can't believe some people actually think a lousy 5GB is enough. Some of us are still stuck in areas where DSL and cable are unavailable. The only options are dialup or extortion (wireless/dish). 5 gigs? I can pull 10 gig on dialup when I download 24/7. If I had DSL/cable, my Xbox would use more than 5 gigs by itself! 5GB is nothing! The obscene caps need to go or someone needs to force Verizon to quit shitting on their rural customers. I have Verizon land lines and a Verizon cell tower about 300 feet from my driveway, but I'll never have Verizon DSL here because of the ancient lines and the fact that they just don't care. I'm planning to move next year. Half the reason is my lack of real internet. I've spent 12 years now stuck with dialup, and the phone lines here keep getting worse and worse. I can't take it anymore. | |
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