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Comments on news posted 2010-06-25 10:35:56: Driven by AT&T's recent decision to impose caps from 200 MB to 2 GB and monthly overages up to $15, CNET's running an article that claims that those upset by this new shift toward high overages shouldn't be. ..

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chronoss2009
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until its proved

minorities use bandwidth too.
WHAT A RACIST COMPANY


nothing00

join:2001-06-10
Centereach, NY

You forgot to note a key phrase "providers of bandwidth-intensive content" must pay. This is the telco providers dream, charging Google, Netflix, etc for access to their customers already paying for service.


expert007

join:2006-01-10
Buffalo, NY

As one of the supposed minorities who would benefit...

I ask with all sincerity....WTF??

chronoss2009
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and they want to allow this behaviour to invest and run ISPS

and they want to allow this behavior to invest and run ISPS in canada.

I SAY NO WAY HOSE ( a minority name in no way meant to impail any racist view nor does the site the occupants or my underpants have anything to do with this view )


BF69
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join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN

So let me get this straight

So this new crappy pricing scheme will allow minorities and other poor folks to also enjoy this crappy pricing scheme. This is his point?

Excuse me what can you do TODAY with 2 GB let alone in 2020? And please no one bring up the fact that 2 GB is plenty for a cell phone because this guy CLEARLY mentions BROADBAND use which I take as HOME PC use. You might as well stick with dial-up. At least you can get 17 GB a month from that.

So the FCC wants to take away free OTA TV from these very same poor folk and give it to these at&t idiots so they can charge these poor folks outrageous fees for "broadband" that is limited to 2 GB a month?

I am apparently missing the upside to all of this. Someone explain please.


Ben
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join:2007-06-17
Glen Carbon, IL

Huh?

quote:
With this flat-rate pricing approach, for example, almost one in five African Americans would still lack home broadband connectivity in 2020. A nearly comparable share of Hispanics and lower-income white Americans also would remain offline. In the face of rising bandwidth demand and the rising cost to accommodate it, the flat-fee pricing approach will perpetuate digital divides based on income, race, and ethnicity.
     Why?  Or how?

     In a great many places, including in these "inner cities," DSL is available, and there's a $20/mo. tier for 768Kbps/384Kbps (or was it 128Kbps upload?).  Therefore, I don't buy the argument that the present way of doing things prevents anyone from getting on the Internet.

     $20/mo. is not a lot of money at all; anyone can afford that.

     There are even free ways to get onto the Internet, or at least most of the WWW (HTTP and HTTPS), since many public libraries offer that.  I say most because public libraries often won't allow the viewing of pornography or other adult material, but that sort of thing really shouldn't be viewed in any sort of public setting.

     So again, just how is the current way of doing things disadvantageous to anyone, with regards to Internet access?

     At this point, the only people who don't have broadband are those who don't want it for whatever reason (a very small number that grows smaller every day), or can't get it at a reasonable cost, which is the case in many rural communities.


jjoshua
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Scotch Plains, NJ
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reply to BF69

Re: So let me get this straight

Yes. Everyone is being ripped off equally.


Ben
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Glen Carbon, IL

reply to BF69

said by BF69:

I am apparently missing the upside to all of this. Someone explain please.
     You aren't looking at it in the right way.  Of course there's an upside; for AT&T.  It's another way to attempt and fail to justify their decision, and make it sound like a good thing for most people.

     You are right though, that there's no upside for regular, normal people.


Linklist
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join:2002-03-03
Longport, NJ
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reply to BF69

said by BF69:


So the FCC wants to take away free OTA TV
from these very same poor folk and give it to these at&t idiots so they can charge these poor folks outrageous fees for "broadband" that is limited to 2 GB a month?
Gov't regulations usual result.
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BF69
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Camden, TN

said by Linklist:

said by BF69:


So the FCC wants to take away free OTA TV
from these very same poor folk and give it to these at&t idiots so they can charge these poor folks outrageous fees for "broadband" that is limited to 2 GB a month?
Gov't regulations usual result.
Not that at&t and Verizon's throwing money to pro-wireless politicians of both parties has any influence did it?


bionicRod
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reply to chronoss2009

Re: and they want to allow this behaviour to invest and run ISPS

said by chronoss2009:

and they want to allow this behavior to invest and run ISPS in canada.

I SAY NO WAY HOSE ( a minority name in no way meant to impail any racist view nor does the site the occupants or my underpants have anything to do with this view )
"Hose" is not a minority name...it's what you attach to your water supply outside to water the lawn

And what a bunch of BS. AT&T only gets away with stuff like this because almost nobody pays attention. Great job bbr, but your reporting only serves to raise the blood pressure of your readers as it seems no one else cares.


mcfrisch
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join:2000-07-02
Lakewood, OH

Not Surprising...

Bandwidth Cap and Trade!


woody7
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Torrance, CA

hmmm,

W hat about the Govt. subsidies etc, how do we recoup that? Universal service fee comes to mind.
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MOWAA

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Fort Lauderdale, FL

reply to jjoshua

Re: So let me get this straight

Guess I don't understand

Are they essentially saying that all people are entitled to Broadband?

chronoss2009
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reply to bionicRod

Re: and they want to allow this behaviour to invest and run ISPS

said by bionicRod:

said by chronoss2009:

and they want to allow this behavior to invest and run ISPS in canada.

I SAY NO WAY HOSE ( a minority name in no way meant to impail any racist view nor does the site the occupants or my underpants have anything to do with this view )
"Hose" is not a minority name...it's what you attach to your water supply outside to water the lawn

And what a bunch of BS. AT&T only gets away with stuff like this because almost nobody pays attention. Great job bbr, but your reporting only serves to raise the blood pressure of your readers as it seems no one else cares.
nice start nit picking it was meant a humor ...please for the love of god someone create a saracsm tag....

chronoss2009
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so AT&T discriminates against everyone but minorites?

S this what AT&T is saying?
SO they'll screw majority people to help minority....
I last checked we all still live in somehting screwed up called a democracy.....

WHAT someone needs ot do is go find some of "minority" grandmothers who can also tell AT&T where to stick it.


BF69
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Camden, TN

reply to Ben

Re: Huh?

said by Ben:

At this point, the only people who don't have broadband are those who don't want it for whatever reason (a very small number that grows smaller every day), or can't get it at a reasonable cost, which is the case in many rural communities.
Oh you mean like my county which half the population can't get it? Considering we're in at&t territory I'm not seeing how these caps are going to all of sudden encourage them to build out their DSL footprint. They don't even bother to offer 3G here. So I call bullshit on at&t.


Murdoc
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join:2009-02-08
Manitowoc, WI

You can' get any dumber then this!

They must really believe what their shoveling! Apparently bandwidth comes from the same place as oil does


newview
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Parsonsburg, MD
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reply to bionicRod

Re: and they want to allow this behaviour to invest and run ISPS

said by bionicRod:
"Hose" is not a minority name...it's what you attach to your water supply outside to water the lawn

Or what AT&T is attempting to do . . . "hose" their customers.

Kearnstd
Elf Wizard
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Mullica Hill, NJ

reply to BF69

Re: So let me get this straight

Click for full size
Today alone
no not that anybody would ever use more then 2gb.....
but this is today already so far with just a high quality internet radio stream going+an upload to my web host.
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